OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20303/Introducing_SquirrelFish_Extreme Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:27:36 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Yeah! http://osnews.com/thread?330809 http://osnews.com/thread?330809 Now if only someone could come up with a virus that deletes all those IE6 still out there... Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ventajou) Comments Say what? http://osnews.com/thread?330812 http://osnews.com/thread?330812
Just three months ago, we announced SquirrelFish

Who are "we"? Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments RE: Say what? http://osnews.com/thread?330813 http://osnews.com/thread?330813
Who are "we"?

The WebKit team.

Epiphany 2.26 is going to be unbelievably wonderful.Edited 2008-09-19 15:18 UTC Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[2]: Say what? http://osnews.com/thread?330815 http://osnews.com/thread?330815 My point was that it's not properly quoted and referenced. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments RE: Yeah! http://osnews.com/thread?330817 http://osnews.com/thread?330817 Or antivirus vendors should reach a consensus to consider IE6 a security threat and ask the user if he prefers putting it on quarantine or removing it ;)

The article summary should mention that Squirrelfish is the Webkit JS engine.

I expect web applications to be no slower than desktop applications. Digg.com is a great candidate to test a JS engine ;) Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Liquidator) Comments RE[3]: Say what? http://osnews.com/thread?330818 http://osnews.com/thread?330818 What are you now? An English teacher? Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Chatbox) Comments RE[2]: Yeah! http://osnews.com/thread?330819 http://osnews.com/thread?330819
I expect web applications to be no slower than desktop applications.


You can always try to slow down your desktop applications to reach that goal. ;) Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bully) Comments that makes 3 http://osnews.com/thread?330821 http://osnews.com/thread?330821 THREE super-fast javascript engines right in a row? It's like there's a really contagious JIT virus or something... Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StuffMaster) Comments Well, it has to be good! http://osnews.com/thread?330824 http://osnews.com/thread?330824 It has EXTREME in the name. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vondur) Comments RE[2]: Yeah! http://osnews.com/thread?330826 http://osnews.com/thread?330826 That isn't a very reasonable expectation, it is only beta level browsers that are able to deliver both experience and speed comparable to desktop apps, and even these have only appeared quite recently. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (google_ninja) Comments x http://osnews.com/thread?330829 http://osnews.com/thread?330829 alert('wow...''); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (defdog99) Comments RE[3]: Say what? http://osnews.com/thread?330831 http://osnews.com/thread?330831 He's right. I couldn't tell it was from Webkit's team until looking up a little bit. Should be clearer. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thjayo) Comments RE: x http://osnews.com/thread?330832 http://osnews.com/thread?330832 --------------------- x
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----------------------Edited 2008-09-19 18:19 UTC Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments RE[2]: Yeah! http://osnews.com/thread?330833 http://osnews.com/thread?330833
I expect web applications to be no slower than desktop applications.


Just install Windows Vista and you can make that a reality today:) Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (michi) Comments straw man http://osnews.com/thread?330834 http://osnews.com/thread?330834 Since the SunSpider JavaScript benchmark has a fair amount of regexp content, some may feel that developing a regexp JIT is an “unfair” advantage.

No, that's backwards. Testing regexp content heavily in SunSpider when real-world usage doesn't justify it, just because it makes you look better, is what's being claimed as unfair. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pantsgolem) Comments RE: straw man http://osnews.com/thread?330835 http://osnews.com/thread?330835 Damn, the comment system screwed those (copy-pasted) quote marks up good. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pantsgolem) Comments RE[3]: Yeah! http://osnews.com/thread?330840 http://osnews.com/thread?330840 Nahhh!!...That's not true ;) Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Liquidator) Comments RE: x http://osnews.com/thread?330846 http://osnews.com/thread?330846 document.write("Please no Javascript here"); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Liquidator) Comments RE[2]: straw man http://osnews.com/thread?330847 http://osnews.com/thread?330847 The funny thing is that somehow you managed to print a "euro" symbol in the mix, however if you try typing it the normal way, you get this crap instead: â¬

;) Edited 2008-09-19 19:32 UTC Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Liquidator) Comments RE[3]: straw man http://osnews.com/thread?330848 http://osnews.com/thread?330848
The funny thing is that somehow you managed to print a "euro" symbol in the mix, however if you try typing it the normal way, you get this crap instead: â¬

;)


/me sees a euro symbol

edit: oh damn, now it's gone...

what an f'd up comment system ;) Edited 2008-09-19 19:34 UTC Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umccullough) Comments RE: straw man http://osnews.com/thread?330853 http://osnews.com/thread?330853 The amount of regexp content on the benchmark has not changed. And when the test was first made, it did not particularly make WebKit look better. In fact, when the benchmark first came out, Safari lost pretty hard on the overall score. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (othermaciej) Comments RE[2]: x http://osnews.com/thread?330854 http://osnews.com/thread?330854
document.write("Please no Javascript here");

I know you meant to use createElement.... Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sorpigal) Comments RE: Well, it has to be good! http://osnews.com/thread?330860 http://osnews.com/thread?330860 They should have spelled it X-Treme! Everyone knows something with a (uppercase) X in the name sells better. ;)
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Wormhole_X-Treme!_(episode) Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (panzi) Comments RE[3]: x http://osnews.com/thread?330861 http://osnews.com/thread?330861 var p = document.createElement("p");
p.appendChild(documnet.createTextNode("Do you feel better now?"));
document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0].appendChild(p); Edited 2008-09-19 22:27 UTC Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (panzi) Comments RE[2]: x http://osnews.com/thread?330864 http://osnews.com/thread?330864 $javascript = eregi_replace( "]*>", "", $javascript );
echo $javascript;Edited 2008-09-19 23:08 UTC Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE[4]: Say what? http://osnews.com/thread?330865 http://osnews.com/thread?330865 2nd that. Except that I didn't bother to follow any of the links in the teaser, reading the comments told me all I needed to know.

The sad state of journalism ;) Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Dryhte) Comments 64-bit? http://osnews.com/thread?330870 http://osnews.com/thread?330870 Does anyone know if SFX supports 64-bit. It doesn't seem to because my Sunspider bencharks are surprisingly similar to standard Squirrelfish.

EDIT: It seems that SFX is limited to 32-bit for now. I'm itching to get my hands on a new JIT JS engine that supports 64-bit in the browser.Edited 2008-09-20 00:11 UTC Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (abraxas) Comments RE[2]: Well, it has to be good! http://osnews.com/thread?330875 http://osnews.com/thread?330875
Everyone knows something with a (uppercase) X in the name sells better. ;)
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Wormhole_X-Treme!_(episode)

"Chevron seven... will not lock!"

Your theory worked for Windows XP and Mac OS X. Maybe it will work for LinuX too if people capitalize the X? Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Meridian) Comments RE: 64-bit? http://osnews.com/thread?330915 http://osnews.com/thread?330915 Thanks for the update. I compiled up 64 bit Epiphany-Webkit trunk today and ran sunspider on it and regular Epiphany (Gecko 1.9 in Ubuntu Intrepid development version) and got:

Epiphany-webkit: 1495ms
Epiphany-gecko: 3214ms

I was wondering what Javascript engine was in it.

This was on a Core 2 Quad Q6600 running at 3.0 GHz.Edited 2008-09-21 00:20 UTC Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments