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OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20580/Fedora_10_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Fri, 24 May 2013 12:55:14 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Good! http://www.osnews.com/thread?338281 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338281 Downloading it right now from a spanish mirror. Can't wait to install it on a spare partition i freed for Fedora.
I'm anxious to see if it has got better in making codec/drivers install easier and if it is possible to upgrade a Fedora 9 install via the Internet.Edited 2008-11-25 15:55 UTC Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jokinin) Comments RPM Fusion free and nonfree repos http://www.osnews.com/thread?338285 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338285 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/m...

To make RPM Fusion repositories available on a freshly installed Fedora
10 system run the following command:

{{{
| $ su -c 'rpm -ivh
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-s...
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-rel...'
}}}

You can also added during install following this:

http://rpmfusion.org/EnablingRpmFusionDuringFedoraInstall Edited 2008-11-25 16:25 UTC Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (justinc) Comments RE: Good! http://www.osnews.com/thread?338286 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338286

I'm anxious to see if it has got better in making codec/drivers install easier and if it is possible to upgrade a Fedora 9 install via the Internet.

Just visit rpmfusion.org site, then download and install a rpm for yum setup of their repo. It's a successor to Livna and few other unofficial repositories which had codecs and similar semi-legal stuff. Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (siki_miki) Comments ATI Radeon problems http://www.osnews.com/thread?338289 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338289 In case you miss this in the release notes. I have an x300 in one of my laptop's and it bites me...

Just add nomodeset to the kernel boot line.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/Common

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10preview/en_US/What_i... Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (justinc) Comments Codecs http://www.osnews.com/thread?338293 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338293 I tested the new codec stuff and it more or less works, with a small hitch.

I installed the rpmfusion releases (free and non-free), and tried to play a media file. I got the message that it needed additional software. within a few clicks it found codecs, theor dependencies and installed them. However, there was still no picture, and I got an error of a missing codec.

When I tried to play that same file the second time, it now mentioned that the codec was missing, and clicking through again, it installed that one file and the video played correctly.

so, it works, but you may have to go through it twice. (I would suspect there is probably an incorrect dependency in some rpmfusion package, but I am not a developer).

Other than that, great release. Its pretty and it works.

Packagekit is also very usable and much improved over what came by default in Fedora 9 - it is starting to show its potential, something I did not really believe would happen when it was first announced over a year ago. Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (VistaUser) Comments awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?338301 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338301 Well, so far, everything is working perfect. It downloaded the codecs automatically and Firefox is running without a hitch.

My only question is that I installed JRE(java runtime
environment) but for some reason it does not with Firefox. I tried to play chess at http://www.chessica.de/jchess/jchess.html but it is not doing anything and is still asking for JRE. Any suggestions?

JRE and Opera are working perfect which I found odd.

By the way, I am keeping Fedora. I think, killer features as Full Hard Drive Encryption, SElinux and
Package kit makes it a mean distro.

-2501 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (2501) Comments RE: awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?338302 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338302 You don't need to install JRE (from Sun website) as Java comes with Fedora. You just need to install the web plugin with:

yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Maners) Comments RE[2]: awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?338304 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338304 Openjdk != Sun java...

For instance, SAP's gui for java doesn't work with openjdk and requires sun's Java implementation.

I can imagine that many other software packages aren't compatible with openjdk either. Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Dryhte) Comments RE[3]: awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?338306 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338306

For instance, SAP's gui for java doesn't work with openjdk and requires sun's Java implementation.

Ahh, the joys of WORA! ;-) Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments The sun? http://www.osnews.com/thread?338310 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338310 So that's the sun on the default wallpaper.. I'm sure it must be, but doesn't it now also look a bit like those microscopic images of a human ovum surrounded by all those millions of eager sperm cells trying to get in or already too late to get in..?
Subliminal message there, Red Hat? :-P Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (h3rman) Comments RE[4]: awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?338311 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338311 While I agree WORA is not really true in this case I blame OpenJDK. I have a number of applications that work fine in Sun's JDK, IBM's JDK, and JRockit but not OpenJDK. Especially stuff that stresses permgen space (like J2EE portal conatiners and eclipse with a large number of plugins) seems to have problems with OpenJDK. Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kokopelli) Comments Needs more research http://www.osnews.com/thread?338314 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338314 FTA:

"Another key feature of Fedora 10 is OpenOffice.org 3.0, making Fedora the first major distro to include it in the DVD install."

Mandriva 2009 was the first major distribution to include OpenOffice.org 3.0. Unless Mandriva is not counted as a major distribution?? Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DrillSgt) Comments RE: Needs more research http://www.osnews.com/thread?338316 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338316

Mandriva 2009 was the first major distribution to include OpenOffice.org 3.0. Unless Mandriva is not counted as a major distribution??

According to Distrowatch, Mandriva shipped with a release candidate of OO.o 3.0 and not 3.0 final:

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mandriva Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jackson) Comments RE[2]: Needs more research http://www.osnews.com/thread?338319 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338319 "According to Distrowatch, Mandriva shipped with a release candidate of OO.o 3.0 and not 3.0 final:"

My bad.

Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DrillSgt) Comments RE[2]: awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?338325 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338325 oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks! It is working perfect!

I will be playing chess all night long.

Fedora 10 rules.

-2501 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (2501) Comments RE[3]: Needs more research http://www.osnews.com/thread?338326 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338326 I would assume that they have since issued a update for the full thing since, no? (I have not checked, but I would expect an update from an RC - which should more or less have the same features anyway - to the final.)

All the original wording was doing was picking out Ubuntu, but without calling it by name. Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (VistaUser) Comments RE[4]: Needs more research http://www.osnews.com/thread?338332 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338332 "I would assume that they have since issued a update for the full thing since, no?"

Yes, an update has been issued since. It still makes the article correct as it states it is on the install DVD. Technicality gets it

Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DrillSgt) Comments RE[3]: awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?338343 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338343 You may want to retry SAP's GUI on the Fedora 10 version of java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin. Red Hat did a lot of work to make IcedTea's plugin much more compatible in this release.

See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LiveConnect for details. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fitzsim) Comments LIVE USB image? http://www.osnews.com/thread?338360 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338360 I have a 10" eeepc is there an official image or a spin so that I could install it via usb key? or usb hdd? Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments RE: LIVE USB image? http://www.osnews.com/thread?338372 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338372 There is no separate image. We try to integrate changes directly within upstream and inherit those changes within Fedora. So just use the regular live image and it should work fine with some caveats such as the wireless in the newer model requiring a kmod from rpmfusion. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Rahul) Comments Upstream http://www.osnews.com/thread?338373 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338373 "Despite this, many of the new features appear to be things that originate from upstream, and as such, will find their way (or have found their way) to other distributions as well"

True. Of note is that Fedora itself is essentially upstream or Fedora developers are primary maintainers of many many key components of upstream projects and we try to push all our changes upstream and stay close to the original sources.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview

So if all the changes get to other distributions as well, it certainly helps our goals. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Rahul) Comments Love stable releases like this one http://www.osnews.com/thread?338384 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338384 With a stable release like this one in Fedora 10, it's a relief and time-saver. A guy like me who has a relatively new system can set it up for the next 12-18 months and not touch it.

I was surprised it loaded my ATI 4870 drivers. Holy crap. And the KDE version is also stabilized. None of the twitchiness that kubuntu 8.10 still has. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zaine_ridling) Comments RE[2]: LIVE USB image? http://www.osnews.com/thread?338385 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338385 Thanks.

So just use the regular live image and it should work fine with some caveats such as the wireless in the newer model requiring a kmod from rpmfusion.

Is that why I didn't have wireless working ootb on the latest Ubuntu.

Any website you could refer me to about how to install that kmod from rpmfusion? Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments RE[3]: LIVE USB image? http://www.osnews.com/thread?338388 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338388 http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

Install the rpmfusion-free release package to enable the repository and yum install akmod-rt2860

That should do that job. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Rahul) Comments RE[4]: LIVE USB image? http://www.osnews.com/thread?338406 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338406 Thanks. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments RE: Codecs http://www.osnews.com/thread?338415 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338415 //so, it works, but you may have to go through it twice. //

That's "working" ??? Wow ... and people bash Windows ... Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rockwell) Comments RE: Love stable releases like this one http://www.osnews.com/thread?338427 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338427 How do you know it's stable when it's only been out for about a day? Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bending Unit) Comments RE: Love stable releases like this one http://www.osnews.com/thread?338432 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338432 My friends are impressed by speed polish and .... advanced features. Even Windows/OSX-friends were impressed. Though no 3D I use a VolariV3XT which is not supported by XGI under Linux. The XORG driver is marvelous. Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fithisux) Comments RE[2]: Love stable releases like this one http://www.osnews.com/thread?338490 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338490

How do you know it's stable when it's only been out for about a day?

My personal experience is every past fedora release starting with FC1, I always had a complaint about something.

This release so far no complaints. (BTW not calling it perfect) Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments RE[3]: Love stable releases like this one http://www.osnews.com/thread?338498 http://www.osnews.com/thread?338498 You're so generous. ;-) Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (h3rman) Comments