New hardware support is good, but I'd really like to see them to something really serious on the performance side. If they can say that Windows 7 will be faster than Vista then why cannot they put these improvements into Vista? These service packs don't really seem that thrilling to me. I'll still stick with XP for the time being unless there's some significant performance improvements.

Gee, I don't know. Perhaps by adding some of the features that Vista missed out on?

Huh? Give you a reason to buy Windows 7 and then when I do you say no I didn't, yet tell me I did? Sorry, you make no sense.

You don't get it. I was referring to Microsoft adding the performance enhancements to Vista that are in Windows 7 (since there seem to be some) and the incentive to buy Windows 7 would be other features which were missed out on in Vista.

So yeah, I did answer your question, thanks.

No, you've completely misunderstood what I said.

For the last time...

I asked why if they can put improvements into Windows 7 for performance then why not put them into Vista? You asked why buy Windows 7 then, to which I replied that other new features could justify it.

and hence the same you-can't-do-that--performance-dog DRM platform

to remove some applets from the default install.

Vista is as fast as Win7, same kernel, same core.

...and, as someone who has been testing both windows 7 and vista sp2 i can tell you that even in beta form sp2 installed vista feel snappier than before. and windows 7, well, it just rocks, people are not going to be disappointed. well MS haters will be, since they will have one less thing to hate about

People hate MS because of MS' business conduct and ethics (or lack of).

I dont hate MS, I hate their substandard products. While MS certainly ain't no altar boy in terms of ethics there are many...

So for years we have FOSS/Linux nuts like you claiming hell and beyond because Microsoft included applications with Windows (monopoly abuse! Monopoly abuse!) and now that they remove them... It's wrong again? Ah, the typical character trait of a zealous troll: hypocrisy.

lemur2, you're here for the entertainment value. Nobody takes you seriously.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10112149-56.html?part=rss&sub... enough said

Last month, Canonical launched Ubuntu 8.10 with significant new features and performance upgrades over previous versions. But what is becoming increasingly clear is that the free, downloadable operating system has in many critical ways caught or surpassed Microsoft's flagship desktop operating system -- and poses a significant threat to the software giant if the market catches on.

Vista is as slow as Win7, same kernel, same core.

Misdirection. I never claimed myself that Microsoft should or should not include applications with Windows. What my point was that Microsoft write the Windows OS for the best interests of themselves and their business partners, and not for the best interests of the end users who are expected to pay for the software. That is clear and undeniable ... so Windows apologists steer immediately away from this point.

lemur2, you're here for the entertainment value. Nobody takes you seriously.

"Misdirection. I never claimed myself that Microsoft should or should not include applications with Windows. What my point was that Microsoft write the Windows OS for the best interests of themselves and their business partners, and not for the best interests of the end users who are expected to pay for the software. That is clear and undeniable ... so Windows apologists steer immediately away from this point.

And don't give me that f**king bullshit about you not caring whether Windows includes added software. You have whined and cried about this for ages.

" lemur2, you're here for the entertainment value. Nobody takes you seriously.

ignorance and stupidity always is