http://www.osnews.com/story/20809/Windows_Embedded_on_Your_Desktop Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:17:05 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread?344671 http://osnews.com/thread?344671 If you want to run it for longer than 120 days you have to shell out just shy of $1000 for the dev tools, and $90 for each install you do with your custom image.

Yeah right. Who in their right mind is going to stump up this heap of $$$$$ when you can get perfectly workable Linux Live CD's for $0.00(inc tax) or even just buy an unused XP license from Ebay?

I think the Microfost marketing drones need to get a real kick in their backside if they think this is a runner in the long term OR is this a diversionary tactic to keep a few key customers away from the Linux Live CD Camp? Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shotsman) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344677 http://osnews.com/thread?344677 Do you see that point up in the sky?

That's the one you missed. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344678 http://osnews.com/thread?344678 See that URL in your address bar above?

Last time I checked it took me to a website that discussed different Operating Systems.

That's the point of the article. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (AbuHassan) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344679 http://osnews.com/thread?344679 I think the article is informative, as it shows that this product exists and works.

The problem here is that MS' sales division obviously doesn't see or care for any market of hobbyists using this "specialized" software.

The base price of $1000 with another $90 per install is obviously targeted at the business market. There it actually makes sense.

Still I'm totally with you that MS misses yet another opportunity to be competetitive with GNU/Linux. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ford Prefect) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344680 http://osnews.com/thread?344680 I would have preferred the article to actually have instructions (or links to them) on actually getting Win Embedded setup and bootstrapped on a machine. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (phate) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344681 http://osnews.com/thread?344681 The XP Embedded EULA clearly specifies it is never to be used as a desktop system, so it would be impossible to get this legally licensed through an authorized reseller at any cost. (Perhaps the EULA also forbids me to even speak of this product).

With Embedded, one cannot install MS Office, although openoffice.org works well. Expect to spend a few days doing the "componentized build" where the components are determined by trial and mostly error, using a SQL database, it is probably faster and easier to build a Linux distro. from source.

It's funny to see a "real world" deployment of XP Embedded on "old hardware": to get maximum compatibility, one adds all the components of XP, and it runs just as slowly. As time goes on, the code base will continue to get fixes from the common Vista/XP/7 tree and will like all MS products eventually fail to run on hardware it once ran on, despite MS's "guarantee" of 10 year support for embedded. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cushioncritter) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344687 http://osnews.com/thread?344687 Yes, Microsoft do care about hobbist community: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/spark/defau... Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dmrio) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344688 http://osnews.com/thread?344688 All the "latest" features of a ten-year-old OS (just ~five if you reset the timer at SP2), how nice. I'd certainly pay $1000 to get that. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SJ87) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344708 http://osnews.com/thread?344708 That's something, but the project says it's for "Windows Embedded CE". Not the same thing.... Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moochman) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344709 http://osnews.com/thread?344709 I'm guessing the netbooks don't use this yet since Windows XP is still supported. As soon as MS drops support for that, I'm betting this will default to being the standard alternative to Linux on netbooks. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moochman) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344717 http://osnews.com/thread?344717 There is no common tree. All three products have different trees and the code in many areas has diverged a lot.

Very few self-contained fixes go back to XP. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (PlatformAgnostic) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344772 http://osnews.com/thread?344772 That's simply awesome. It's expensive as hell, but I can see it take off as an alternative to Vista and 7 if it appears on popular torrent sites. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pandronic) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?344775 http://osnews.com/thread?344775 The linked page says $90 per unit shipped, I suspect that if you're only using it internally you don't have to pay that fee. Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (slight) Comments http://osnews.com/thread?345031 http://osnews.com/thread?345031 That links isn't working for me. Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Andre) Comments