OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/20971/Mandriva_Linux_2009_Spring_Beta_Released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 22 May 2013 01:38:23 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5? http://www.osnews.com/thread?348645 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348645 KDE 4.2.0 and Qt 4.5.0 is not so good idea according to KDE devs: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/02/plasma-qt-45-tokamak-etc.html Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (adundovi) Comments Comment by satan666 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348685 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348685 I've been using Mandriva 2009.1 since alpha (with KDE 4.2) and it is really stable. If you want a nice KDE 4.2 desktop Mandriva is just what you need. Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (satan666) Comments RE: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5? http://www.osnews.com/thread?348686 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348686 and it is a good idea according to QT devs:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/02/10/why-kde-42-should-use-qt...

Tom Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tomd) Comments I miss AdamW http://www.osnews.com/thread?348807 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348807 Those release notes read like poorly translated French... which they are ;) Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (davidiwharper) Comments RE[2]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5? http://www.osnews.com/thread?348817 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348817 I'm using 4.2 with Qt 4.5, it's the smoothest and most responsive version of KDE4 I've used yet.

I'm a little disappointed in general with KDE advising against shipping Qt 4.5. They consciously chose not to test against 4.5 during the 4.2 cycle, and the workarounds they implemented for 4.4 are biting them in some isolated cases. Granted 4.5 was not RC by the time 4.2 hit freeze, but given the timing, it was reasonable to expect that distros would be shipping 4.5 during the time 4.2 was out. Qt isn't exclusive to KDE, so I'm not sure the KDE team is putting distros in a fair position by asking them to withhold Qt 4.5, it seems to be a significant upgrade that could benefit Qt-based but non-KDE apps.

Hopefully this will shake out positively one way or the other, but I think it's much ado about nothing from my personal experience with it. On the plus side, with Qt opening up development as of 4.5, the need for the KDE devs to use patches and workarounds such as qt-copy should ideally be reduced, and issues like this should not occur.

Just my 2c... Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (elsewhere) Comments RE[3]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5? http://www.osnews.com/thread?348818 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348818
Qt isn't exclusive to KDE, so I'm not sure the KDE team is putting distros in a fair position by asking them to withhold Qt 4.5,

This is nothing new. My impression of the KDE devs has long been that they think that it's all about them. They work on KDE for fun. And nothing outside of KDE really matters. Now we see that QT is also included in that mindset. It is interesting, but not particularly surprising. Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbergman27) Comments RE[3]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5? http://www.osnews.com/thread?348865 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348865
I'm a little disappointed in general with KDE advising against shipping Qt 4.5.

Why? They have developed and tested against Qt 4.4, they plan to develop and test against Qt4.5 with KDE4.3, what's so urgent about using Qt4.5?


They consciously chose not to test against 4.5 during the 4.2 cycle

I'd argue that this is a wise decision: don't try to do several thing at the same time, you'll waste efforts.


Qt isn't exclusive to KDE, so I'm not sure the KDE team is putting distros in a fair position by asking them to withhold Qt 4.5


Well maybe they could ship ensuring that KDE use Qt4.4 and install Qt4.5 aside also for those other applications who are such in hurry to use Qt4.5.

I doubt that the end result will be positive!
Remember some distributions even put alpha software (KDE4.0) as their default KDE desktop to be able to bragg that they're using the latest software, so it's quite likely some distributions will ship KDE4.2 and Qt4.5 even if there are bugs..

The only positive side is that it's easy for users to detect these kind of distributions and select distribution who care about software maturity/stability in their default install. Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (renox) Comments RE: I miss AdamW http://www.osnews.com/thread?348954 http://www.osnews.com/thread?348954 If I was good at writing english, I'd love to correct those notes. But, I'm not, I'm afraid :-(

glyj

PS: I didn't wrote these...

PPS: Every registered member of the community has rights to change the wiki's pages.Edited 2009-02-14 18:48 UTC Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (glyj) Comments RE[2]: I miss AdamW http://www.osnews.com/thread?349071 http://www.osnews.com/thread?349071 I don't think the other person was making fun of your language skills, or of the translation itself.

I think it was a general joke. Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments Using it now.... http://www.osnews.com/thread?349107 http://www.osnews.com/thread?349107 It appears to be more snappier than Ubuntu 8.10, and it also appears faster than Mandriva 2008.

But, I don't like the fact it set up the update servers onto Cooker.

I know it is still a beta, but hopefully when it is ready for release, the update locations will change and take it off Cooker.

It is running fine, and the problem I had with rt2500 wireless appears to be fixed ;) Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raver31) Comments