OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/21126/iPhone_OS_3_0_To_Be_Previewed_March_17 Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:20:02 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Comment by Eagle101 http://osnews.com/thread?352826 http://osnews.com/thread?352826 You guys really think Apple has just been sitting down and doing nothing?

Also, the title of this article is misleading. It is NOT coming on March 17th, it is being PREVIEWED on March 17th.

later Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eagle101) Comments Snow Leopard + iPhone OS 3.0 http://osnews.com/thread?352828 http://osnews.com/thread?352828 Is there a connection between the two here? The last article about Snow Leopard suggested it was picking up features that the iPhone OS had - will it be going in the other direction too?

I'm curious - this looks interesting. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (NathanHill) Comments Push Notification http://osnews.com/thread?352837 http://osnews.com/thread?352837 Here's to hoping that we'll hear something about the long awaited push notification :-) Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tonywob) Comments Comment by Kroc http://osnews.com/thread?352853 http://osnews.com/thread?352853 Hey developers! Look, your cell now comes with a toilet! It even flushes. (We reserve the right to disable the flush, remove the toilet or any other such behaviour at random and without any reason and only return it if you make enough stink) Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments RE: Push Notification http://osnews.com/thread?352854 http://osnews.com/thread?352854 Push is so 1999! The future is Lateral notification. It says it’s coming, doesn’t arrive, and then by the time you’ve forgotten about it it appears out of nowhere singing it’s own praises. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments Comment by Kroc http://osnews.com/thread?352857 http://osnews.com/thread?352857 Lack of Flash an ‘atrocity’? The teenage gunman this week was an atrocity, not a piece of software that is an ‘atrocity’ itself. The iPhone, and the web as a whole, is all the better off without Flash. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments RE: Comment by Kroc http://osnews.com/thread?352861 http://osnews.com/thread?352861 Well, flash has its place. Better that than being stuck with Silverlight as our only option. It's just too bad flash has been so misused, there is no reason for a page's navigation menu to be written in Flash, for example, nor is there any purpose to having the content of a page be flash-based unless it is video or interactive content. None at all. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (darknexus) Comments RE[2]: Comment by Kroc http://osnews.com/thread?352862 http://osnews.com/thread?352862 IMO Flash should be a glorified replacement, nothing more. I’m not discounting the technology (it was key in the 1996-2000 period). However, I think beyond cartoons the standards have everything else covered now. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments Flash? No thanks... http://osnews.com/thread?352885 http://osnews.com/thread?352885 I would just assume they forgo Flash. There's just all sorts of problems with Flash, not the least of which being that it can torpedo both battery performance and bandwidth availability on something running off tiny batteries with a lackluster 3G network for it to ride on.

If you're using it for video content, just use the video. If you're using it for dynamic graphical elements, use a canvas or SVG. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FellowConspirator) Comments RE: Flash? No thanks... http://osnews.com/thread?352890 http://osnews.com/thread?352890 Trouble with the video tag is the codec problem, i.e. you don't know what codec the video will necessarily be in or whether your running browser will support it. Theora was supposed to be adopted as the standard, but as far as I know that hasn't actually happened, and Theora doesn't really seem to be going anywhere. And then of course, Apple chose not to support it, so Theora probably won't be running on the iPhone any time soon. H.264 is riddled with patents, making it unlikely to be adopted as the standard (though it'll probably end up being the most used anyway). Dirac shows promise, perhaps that will become standard.
This is one thing you don't have to worry about with Flash, as long as you have Flash installed correctly the video will play. Right now, that's its biggest strength, while it limits the compatibility to operating systems that have a flash player it usually works about the same on all of them. Doesn't change the fact that it's a buggy piece of crap, but it's more universal right now than anything else. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (darknexus) Comments RE: Comment by Kroc http://osnews.com/thread?352921 http://osnews.com/thread?352921 Poor word choice. I meant lack of MMS being ridiculous. Every phone since the late 90s has had this capability. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Adam S) Comments RE[2]: Comment by Kroc http://osnews.com/thread?352924 http://osnews.com/thread?352924 Oh definitely, yah. I thought carriers and handset manufacturers were stubborn and irresponsible when Bluetooth took 2-3 years to even get off the ground, but Apple definitely takes the cake. Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments RE[3]: Comment by Kroc http://osnews.com/thread?352953 http://osnews.com/thread?352953 Ha ha, "standards", right? Some 5 - 7 years ago, some guys still turned off JS. What is web without JS nowadays? Well, it is patched stuff over another patched stuff. So called AJAX saved web. Right - some JS libraries are hundred of KBs of crap, to delude users into thinking, they have real-time RIA :-) Wait, it is still not fast enough, even on super duper HW? OK, let's produce new browsers with new ultra cool JS engines, which are x times faster, but still not fast enough? :-)

So, before you dismiss Flash or another compact technology, just try to answer yourself, if those "standards" really have everything covered ... Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (-pekr-) Comments Comment by pcunite http://osnews.com/thread?352971 http://osnews.com/thread?352971 If the iPhone OS was everything it should be it can not replace the tactile feel of a real keyboard. Clutching my BlackBerry ;) Edited 2009-03-13 00:23 UTC Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pcunite) Comments RE: Comment by pcunite http://osnews.com/thread?353185 http://osnews.com/thread?353185
If the iPhone OS was everything it should be it can not replace the tactile feel of a real keyboard. Clutching my BlackBerry ;)


only using a very generous definition of the word real

KM Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KevinM) Comments RE: Push Notification http://osnews.com/thread?353282 http://osnews.com/thread?353282 Used with an Exchange server it pushes events and mail fantastically well. Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (martingumucio) Comments a2dp http://osnews.com/thread?353283 http://osnews.com/thread?353283 I can't believe it doesn't support A2DP, everything else I can forgive. Please please 3.0 save me! Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (martingumucio) Comments RE[2]: Flash? No thanks... http://osnews.com/thread?353497 http://osnews.com/thread?353497 It's a bit unfair to say that Theora is going nowhere. Mozilla just inveted $100k into the development of it, and WikiMedia favors Theora above all else. Those two items alone make Theora something worth considering.

Now, Theora support on the iPhone, on the other hand... I agree, not happening any time soon. Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kepardue) Comments