OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/21254/BeOS_Behind_the_Sinister_Dollhouse Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:28:37 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Possibly ZevenOS http://osnews.com/thread?356853 http://osnews.com/thread?356853 This could also be ZevenOS - http://www.zevenos.com/ - which is basically Ubuntu designed to look and feel just like the old BeOS. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (davidiwharper) Comments Pioneer http://osnews.com/thread?356854 http://osnews.com/thread?356854 Is that a 5090 Kuro over there? It rocks. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Buck) Comments RE: Possibly ZevenOS http://osnews.com/thread?356855 http://osnews.com/thread?356855 No, the Zevenos logo in the taskbar is different. It's not very visible on the actual pictures, but when watching the frame on the TV it's clearly the BeOS logo. I don't think that they went into extra work to make the Zevenos logo look like BeOS.

There was also another scene with that monitor and I could see some other, very BeOS-like apps in there. Either they are using a very old PC there where BeOS can run, or whoever put that prop together for the series has hacked BeOS' guts a lot to make it run on newer PCs. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments RE: Pioneer http://osnews.com/thread?356856 http://osnews.com/thread?356856 It's the 5010FD: http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/03/03/the-new-tv-arrived/
It is one of the best models ever, the rest also belong to Pioneer. These plasma Pioneers were the best TVs ever, light years ahead of any current LCD. Too bad they had to kill them because no one was buying them! ;) Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments Photograph of HD? http://osnews.com/thread?356857 http://osnews.com/thread?356857 Gotta tease the author posting on an OS site for taking a photograph of a TV.

No tuner on your computer? :-)

(I sent the author a computer capture of the HD stream) Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Macrat) Comments The "flying trashbin" http://osnews.com/thread?356858 http://osnews.com/thread?356858 Interestingly enough, the flying trash container retrieval combo from the Serenity episode "Trash" apparently runs Microsoft Windows 2000 ->

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0579540/trivia


BTW.: I always find it very amusing what kind of futuristic computer interfaces people invent/adapt/present in TV shows, while every attempt to introduce new concepts for interacting with computers in real life is per se rejected by users, geeks (especially those who attempt to speak in the name of joe and jane sixpacks) alikeEdited 2009-04-04 07:19 UTC Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (setec_astronomy) Comments What PVR Eugenia http://osnews.com/thread?356859 http://osnews.com/thread?356859 What PVR are you using? Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments RE: Photograph of HD? http://osnews.com/thread?356860 http://osnews.com/thread?356860 I don't need a TV tuner on my computer. I make my own videos, I don't rip on my hard drive other people's copyrighted work.

And why the heck would I be watching TV on a computer when I have in my disposal one of the best TVs ever made, and a couch with a husband next to me? Do I strike you like a college kid who crams everything on his PC or laptop in his dorm?

BTW, I received TWO stream-rip screenshots from TWO different people, but the compression used is so high that it doesn't make it any better than what it currently looks like on my pics, sorry. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments Second photo http://osnews.com/thread?356861 http://osnews.com/thread?356861 I guess you don't work in a TV show scientific computer lab ;)

Where is the the zoom on the dell monitor, plus enhancing the extremely blocky picture to the point that it is totally clear and sharp ;) It is possible on TV!
:b Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments RE: What PVR Eugenia http://osnews.com/thread?356862 http://osnews.com/thread?356862 We rent an older Comcast HD-capable DVR. Works fine. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments RE[2]: Photograph of HD? http://osnews.com/thread?356863 http://osnews.com/thread?356863 Hey, I cram everything on my PC ;) Using a beamer to project the video on a wall beats any TV, IMHO.

Speaking of BeOS, this weekend BeGeisterd is taking place, so maybe Haiku will show some progress. Still, it's a pity that Be failed. I liked my 4.5 installation. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evert) Comments Curses http://osnews.com/thread?356864 http://osnews.com/thread?356864 If only I hadn't been at work ! I'd have all the glory. Well, I guess I'll always discovered the ones from Journeyman... and that menu ordering system.

http://tinypic.com/1r50y2qb

And some other ones I haven't mentioned.


*Edit*

Don't most of the shows the icons appear on get canceled ?Edited 2009-04-04 07:50 UTC Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mikesum32) Comments BeShare!!! http://osnews.com/thread?356868 http://osnews.com/thread?356868 the software It's BeShare!!! ;)

Well baby
You've been gone so long
It makes me wanna cry
And you know
I feel so wrong
It makes me wanna die
It makes me wanna die

BeOS
It's the OS
BeOS
It's the OS
Ah-whoo-hoo-hoo Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (atomozero) Comments Not Only That, It's a "Borrowed Image" http://osnews.com/thread?356869 http://osnews.com/thread?356869 "i only was searching for it, and I found it"

http://aros.cba.pl/160106.png

Like the Journeyman icons, it's cut and paste.

I also mirrored it at tinypic.

GIS shows it comes from here http://bs0.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_archive.html

I don't know where.

*Edit*

It's under the following entry.

Monday, January 16, 2006
Tired...Edited 2009-04-04 09:17 UTC Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mikesum32) Comments RE[2]: Possibly ZevenOS http://osnews.com/thread?356882 http://osnews.com/thread?356882 or used some beos demo video as prop, playing in windows media player.

And then they probably used beos figuring that it
a) looks unknown enough to be "special"
b) no-one cares about them using such old material Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (oxygene) Comments It's more likely a theme... http://osnews.com/thread?356885 http://osnews.com/thread?356885 Just load up KDE with the appropriate Be-like theme. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FellowConspirator) Comments RE[2]: Photograph of HD? http://osnews.com/thread?356887 http://osnews.com/thread?356887
I don't need a TV tuner on my computer.
You could’ve stopped your comment there.

I make my own videos
You think we haven’t noticed over the years your many many many comments?

I don't rip on my hard drive other people's copyrighted work.
What does hell does copyright have to do with watching TV on your computer? Or even, *shock*, temporarily wiring up your PVR to take a screenshot for your Web-site.

And why the heck would I be watching TV on a computer
He didn’t want you to watch on your computer, he wants a *good capture*.

when I have in my disposal one of the best TVs ever made
Is it also one of the best TVs to photograph? Is your camera the best? etc.

…
I’m bored, so i’ll leave it at that. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Beta) Comments =( http://osnews.com/thread?356890 http://osnews.com/thread?356890 I miss FireFly to this day =( Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lazarus) Comments RE[3]: Possibly ZevenOS http://osnews.com/thread?356894 http://osnews.com/thread?356894 Regarding point b) - isn't free/open source software the safest bet? Typical OSS license doesn't seem to mind any such usage...I only wonder about logos/trademarks/copyrightable stuff (and it's even easier to find something that looks unknown/special) Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments RE: The "flying trashbin" http://osnews.com/thread?356897 http://osnews.com/thread?356897
...
BTW.: I always find it very amusing what kind of futuristic computer interfaces people invent/adapt/present in TV shows, while every attempt to introduce new concepts for interacting with computers in real life is per se rejected by users, geeks (especially those who attempt to speak in the name of joe and jane sixpacks) alike

http://www.ok-cancel.com/comic/3.html - seems relevant

Generally, you have to remember that those movie interfaces are designed only to be SEEN, not USE. Typically they're either of "computer does everything anyway, user just clicks next" (so what the user is for?) or of "information/garbage overload" type. And neccesarilly style over substance. I'm kinda glad we don't fall for this trap in real UIs so much...

And I disagree new interface concepts are outright rejected and have no chance of becoming popular - just look at the iPhone. It's just that there's only limited number of UI concepts which make sense, especially (though not only) given the constraints of technology. And currently prevalent GUI style simply seems to fit them rather well... Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments ah http://osnews.com/thread?356898 http://osnews.com/thread?356898 nostalgia... ;) Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jeanmarc) Comments RE: =( http://osnews.com/thread?356902 http://osnews.com/thread?356902 Amen. I will always be a browncoat at heart. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (runjorel) Comments Wow! Nice finding http://osnews.com/thread?356929 http://osnews.com/thread?356929 Definitely, this is BeOS. Nice! I was impressed by BeOS back in time. That was many years ago. I even thought it will be a real alternative for my Windows 98 workstation back in time... But then, everything gets complicated and there were no option - Open Source and GNU/Linux. Still, I hope, we will have some good feedback from Haiku guys one day.

Anyway, it's good to see BeOS in movie! :-) Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wawrzyn) Comments i see you, well, i see me http://osnews.com/thread?356936 http://osnews.com/thread?356936 ooh, my name is on the IM list. Does that mean i can tell people i was 'kinda' on TV now. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (YNOP) Comments side note http://osnews.com/thread?356938 http://osnews.com/thread?356938 just to see what wikipedia had, i followed the above link... and although the content is 'ok' .. i must say that they have a horrible screenshot. For starters they should have the Deskbar in the default location, and why not Soundplay over CL-Amp. (personal pref, though SP is a more Be-like app, and the first mp3 player to play backwards) What happened to all the good demo apps too, i mean, open up some Cube or Chart .. maybe even Net+ ... something... i would take the one used by the TV show over the one from wikipedia any day.

oh well Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (YNOP) Comments RE: side note http://osnews.com/thread?356968 http://osnews.com/thread?356968 But Deskbar *is* in its default location there... Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MYOB) Comments RE[2]: side note http://osnews.com/thread?356989 http://osnews.com/thread?356989 sorry if I wasn't clear

the wikipedia screenshot has the Deskbar in the mac style layout, instead of the default top/right corner


also as a "back on topic" note, it seems that the dollhouse screenshot is of Dano (at least it has boneyard) Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (YNOP) Comments RE[3]: side note http://osnews.com/thread?356998 http://osnews.com/thread?356998 The reason that CL-Amp is shown is probably because CL-Amp was free if you bought R5-Pro and came as the default player for music. I dont knoe about dano though, as Be.inc did not renew its license with Claes Loefgren for a CL-Amp 2.0. Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (judgen) Comments So, now I know who to blame/thank for me... http://osnews.com/thread?357004 http://osnews.com/thread?357004 For ending up on a sci-fi show on Fox ;)

If that's the actual picture (the dump Eugenia put up isn't clear enough) then they're clearly the ones that leaked the screenshot of their desktop: how can you tell? The light blue response is a private message ;)

Now, where do I apply for ASCAP??? Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JonathanBThompson) Comments RE[2]: Pioneer http://osnews.com/thread?357005 http://osnews.com/thread?357005 Eugina, who would have thought you were such a TV snob. LOL

The Kuros were a very nice screen but they were not that much ahead of their Plasma rivals in tech and at x2 the price. The other point is that Pioneer used glass tinting to achieve their blacks which was a slight impedement on the highlights of the picture image.

Still, a great screen non the less but just priced out of the market.

Now BeOS in Doll House. Anything else worth watching in that series???

For my Sci Fi I'm liking Terminator the Sarah Conner Chronicles and for scare drama loving Supernatural. American Dad gets a look in as well but that's for humour. ;) Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (blitze) Comments w00t!!!! http://osnews.com/thread?357018 http://osnews.com/thread?357018 I saw my name! I used to use that background! Look at me all searching for stippi. Probably when we were doing things with Wonderbrush. I even see my status as pyCepting, which was when I was learning python! LOL...the good ol days... Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kancept) Comments RE: =( http://osnews.com/thread?357231 http://osnews.com/thread?357231 We all do! Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (panzi) Comments RE[2]: Possibly ZevenOS http://osnews.com/thread?357269 http://osnews.com/thread?357269
Either they are using a very old PC there where BeOS can run, or whoever put that prop together for the series has hacked BeOS' guts a lot to make it run on newer PCs.



I have been running BeOS as my primary OS since July 1998. I have found nothing that compares ( though I use many other OSes ).

In fact, I am currently running BeOS R5.1d0 (Dano) hacked to all heck'n'back. My biggest hassle is in not having 48-bit LBA support. Otherwise BeOS is still the best. It does more of what I need, and I learned to program to the Be API originally, so I am the most comfortable :-)

And my computer is always modern:

Asrock 775Dual-VSTA
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200
Swiftech Water cooling w/ thermaltake pump & reservoir
OCZ DDR2 1066, 2 GB
5x HDDs, 120x2(IDE), 80x3 (IDE, 2xSATA)
16x DVD-RW
ATI Radeon x850

That is all that really matters :-)

BeOS DID hold me back on a couple of items, namely the HD range of ATI cards, and larger hard drives.

I ran out of hard drive space so I assembled some spare parts into a server and threw in about 290 GB of hard drives in order to offload some archived movies, and provide a backup medium.

I'm started working on a custom ftp file system driver for BeOS today, hopefully I'll get it going tomorrow - I could almost never hope to do that on another OS without borrowing lots of code - and I hate not knowing every tiny little detail of what is going on.

The server runs Ubuntu mini, gproftpd, and XFCE just for kicks :-)

Hmm... I'm off track...

/me shouldn't post on the web after coding for hours past midnite...

--The loon Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (looncraz) Comments RE: Curses http://osnews.com/thread?357320 http://osnews.com/thread?357320 I remember seeing a couple of BeOS (Zeta maybe?) screens in the earlier episodes of "Heroes". Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BiPolar) Comments Still got my old AMD 733 with BeOS ... http://osnews.com/thread?357358 http://osnews.com/thread?357358 and yes, it still boots faster and smoother than any other platform to date (even on 2Ghz machines!!).

I use it as a CD-to-Ogg Vorbis archiver, and BeBattle!!!

Gawd I LOVE BeBattle!! I have a Haiku VMware image on my XP laptop solely for the purpose of playing BeBattle. Yes, you could probably write a full clone in Javascript, but it just wouldn't be the same...

...hmmmm... though it may be worth asking the author about that.. Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JacobMunoz) Comments How cool is that? http://osnews.com/thread?357639 http://osnews.com/thread?357639 Some days ago I've noticed that thing too. BeOS on the Joss Whedon's TV show! How cool is that, how lovely is that?!

Be-baby looks so cute on TV. ^_^
I hope to see some Haiku-OS desktops on tv shows in next few years ;) Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (v_bobok) Comments