OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/21278/xPUD_Linux_with_an_XUL_Interface_10_Second_Boot_Time Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 19 May 2013 02:24:00 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Are they interesting? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357656 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357656 Hi,
I'm not so sure how much they are interesting in our feedback - I posted some comments/questions on their forum and even sent some directly to Peng (boss of the project) with no echo. Even their forum is mainly for Chinese and in Chinese, not mentioned that there is lack of basic information.
Having said all off these, I can only add a big regret, because the idea itself is extremely interesting and they could gain a lot just by developing community by providing open politics.
Best regards
JackL in Hope Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JackL) Comments Ubuntu themes http://www.osnews.com/thread?357660 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357660 Coming back to Ubuntu, the next release, jaunty is also booting a lot faster. So its not about themes. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcelkoopman) Comments RE: Are they interesting? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357662 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357662 Hi Jack:

I'm Ping-Hsun Chen, penk, the project leader of xPUD.

My apology for no one replied your post in February, I should setup some i18n policy in the forum.
This is an on-man project going back to that time, and it's kind of "reloaded" in the end of March, so we released a new version, with fundamentally improved system and lots of new features.

Best Regards,
penk Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (penk) Comments RE[2]: Are they interesting? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357666 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357666 Awesome. I wish there were more screenshots. It looks cute and fast. All it needs is a nice repository and I'd take it for a spin. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hibridmatthias) Comments Feedback http://www.osnews.com/thread?357667 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357667 I liked the clapping at the end ;)

But seriously a KIOSK system or netbook PC could make use of this.

You could use an mplayer mozilla plugin and be able to launch videos with controls drawn in XUL and it could go to fullscreen.

But in that scenario it doesn't have to launch inside a website, but could be launch from a filemanager drawn in XUL and use the mplayerplugin method to launch it.

Anyway just ideas.

BTW was there a project like this. I forget the name. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (John Blink) Comments Comment by Luminair http://www.osnews.com/thread?357673 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357673 I am a strong spiritual supporter of xpud, I really like what penk has been doing :-)

Ubuntu netbook remix needs to pick up the pace.Edited 2009-04-08 14:04 UTC Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Luminair) Comments Slow download? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357684 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357684 I like this distro a lot, very usefull to use in a VM for kids or friends. The download is very slow though, anyone else having problems? Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Dreams) Comments XULRunner http://www.osnews.com/thread?357694 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357694 Which applications are run on top of XULRunner? I'm a massive XUL fan.

Wondering what a pure XUL desktop would be like? Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wonea) Comments RE: Slow download? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357701 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357701 download is absolutely crawling. It stopped a few times too. Currently 28mins remaining in the download. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Calipso) Comments RE[2]: Slow download? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357703 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357703 We're almost exceeding the monthly bandwidth limit, so the download page is temporarily pointed to another slower server. It will be back in about 12 hours. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (penk) Comments Comment by miqlas http://www.osnews.com/thread?357706 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357706 Looks like the BeIA "BeOS for Internet Appliances" (It was an BeOS system with Opera GUI). Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (miqlas) Comments RE: Ubuntu themes http://www.osnews.com/thread?357714 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357714
Coming back to Ubuntu, the next release, jaunty is also booting a lot faster. So its not about themes.


The 'most seem content to just remaster Ubuntu with a different theme' comment seems to be directed at distribution(-wannabes) that base themselves on Ubuntu (and arguably don't offer much more except a cool name and a new theme) - not at Ubuntu itself. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raboof) Comments nice lumps http://www.osnews.com/thread?357717 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357717 Thom,
Why would you say something so dumb about Linux in general? Ubuntu is hardly the hot bed for new linux technologies compared to distros like openSuse, Mandriva, and especially Fedora. I hate this Ubuntu=Linux crap. Sites which have reported on Linux for years all of a sudden seem to forget who is actually doing all the work just because something shiny and new came along. (Hint: It ISN'T Canonical) Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TechGeek) Comments RE: nice lumps http://www.osnews.com/thread?357719 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357719 It's a JOKE. It's got nothing to do with Ubuntu. Lighten up.

Let's face it: none of the major Linux distributions are doing anything even *remotely* related to innovation. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE[2]: Ubuntu themes http://www.osnews.com/thread?357727 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357727 Well, Ubuntu is basically just a remaster of Debian with a different theme. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (da_Chicken) Comments ahh http://www.osnews.com/thread?357730 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357730 Well your sarcasm aside, I have been seeing a lot of Ubuntu=Linux from different publications lately. Kind of ticks me off. Nothing against Ubuntu but it isnt the end all be all. xPud looks cool though. But I wonder how much it will be able to offer without starting to get bloated.(bloated at least for what it wants to accomplish) Moblin is already around 1 Gig I think. Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TechGeek) Comments RE[3]: Slow download? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357733 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357733 Why don't you provide a torrent? Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jokkel) Comments Please add a youtube link http://www.osnews.com/thread?357745 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357745 I usually read OSNews on my phone and when you add the youtube link in the article I click it and can see the video in youtube for mobile. The embedded video is shown as a blank frame in my phone browser.

Can you, please, add a youtube link to the article so we, the mobile readers, can watch the video?

Thanks.

P.D.: I tried to post this comment from the mobile and I got an error message saying: "you must provide a user name and password" even when I put them in the form. Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jaimesilva) Comments RE[2]: nice lumps http://www.osnews.com/thread?357752 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357752 bla bla innovation bla bla bla. Innovation won't put Linux on the desktop. Coherency, support, and applications will. Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbenitezb) Comments Thanks http://www.osnews.com/thread?357761 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357761 This is just one more example of the power of open source software. It reminds me of when I set up Arch Linux to boot straight into Firefox with out a window manager just because I could. So thank you for sharing your project and namaste. Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zenulator) Comments RE[3]: nice lumps http://www.osnews.com/thread?357762 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357762 Maybe true for the "unwashed masses", but for me the primary reason I'm using it is that with Linux (and OpenBSD, the other non-MS OS I use) I can even approach 10-second boot times.

I suspect though that they have the kernel and drivers pared down to what their particular system needs. I wonder if they can sustain that loading udev and other things that stall the boot somewhat. That said, my full-blown Arch comes up to an XFce desktop in under 30 seconds. I'm not sure Windows Genuine Advantage could even load in that amount of time ;) Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (license_2_blather) Comments RE[4]: nice lumps http://www.osnews.com/thread?357765 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357765 Boot time doesn't matter really. Not like you boot your computer every minute or so. What's up with people careing too much for a couple seconds less boot time? In an embedded device it makes sense, but in a desktop PC...

There are way more important things in the Linux world than boot time. Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbenitezb) Comments RE[5]: nice lumps http://www.osnews.com/thread?357771 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357771
Boot time doesn't matter really. Not like you boot your computer every minute or so. What's up with people careing too much for a couple seconds less boot time? In an embedded device it makes sense, but in a desktop PC...

There are way more important things in the Linux world than boot time.


Boot time matters to some people who are on the move using their laptop or netbook. There have often been scenarios for me where I've needed to get to a document quickly to provide some info over the phone, etc ...

It would have been nice in those scenarios if the OS didn't take so long to boot up, so for me I can see why people are interested in boot times and I applaud any effort to improve boot times. Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Isolationist) Comments RE[2]: Are they interesting? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357775 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357775 Hi Ping
Thanks for comment. I saw there are some changes on the website too. I hope you will be able to open your project to wider audience - have you thought about making it a part of ubuntu as ie kiosk mode (similar to media center mode)? That would definitely extend your support with development.
Wishing you all the best
JackL Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JackL) Comments mirrors? http://www.osnews.com/thread?357776 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357776 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded

Are there any mirrors? Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lukic) Comments Very cool. Reminds me of Win95 + QuikMenu4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357852 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357852 Seriously ... I used to set up a three-page menu system using QuikMenu 4 on my Win95 boxes when I brought them over for LAN parties. One page was the public Games page, and that had panels for the various games we wanted to play, one contained some simple applications like Netscape, an e-mail client, some graphics programs, etc., and the third was password-protected and contained the "real" desktop stuff I wanted to install but didn't want anyone else to have access to.

A screenshot of a PC I still keep configured in this way is here:

http://www.prootwadl.org/visisite/desktops/gamemenu.jpg Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rcsteiner) Comments RE: Very cool. Reminds me of Win95 + QuikMenu4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357939 http://www.osnews.com/thread?357939 You make me want to fire up the old Tribes 1. Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (maydaytx) Comments I hope this will go futher http://www.osnews.com/thread?358318 http://www.osnews.com/thread?358318 While I think the boot times are not really impressive..
If you strip a distribution down that much and do a bit of optimization it's really not that hard to get Linux booting in Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (reez) Comments