OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/21362/Microsoft_Sales_Fall_6_Percent_From_a_Year_Ago Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:33:57 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360192 http://osnews.com/thread?360192 YAY!!! Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fraterf93) Comments As Open Source moves slowly up the stack .. http://osnews.com/thread?360194 http://osnews.com/thread?360194 .. proprietary vendors will feel even more pain.

In the long run _I_ only see a future for specialized vendors ( like Adobe with CS maybe, no commodity stuff like Office Suites )

But hey, 2015 is going to be interesting no matter what ;) Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kragil) Comments RE: As Open Source moves slowly up the stack .. http://osnews.com/thread?360201 http://osnews.com/thread?360201 OK, I'll bite.. what's 2015 got to do with the price of fish? Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (flanque) Comments RE: Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360235 http://osnews.com/thread?360235
YAY!!!


Are you happy that 5,000 people lost their jobs in one of the worst job markets now in 30+ years, and growing worse? Hoping product X finds success competing with product Y or Z is one thing, but to cheer this just makes you out to be am immature ass. Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ssa2204) Comments RE[2]: Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360306 http://osnews.com/thread?360306 Well they could contribute on open source projects, I mean warm feeling of doing "good" will overpower sound of your kids starving. Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Karitku) Comments RE[2]: As Open Source moves slowly up the stack .. http://osnews.com/thread?360317 http://osnews.com/thread?360317 Second Impact? Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Johann Chua) Comments RE[3]: Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360322 http://osnews.com/thread?360322 The MS monopoly cost way more jobs in the whole world than now are lost at MS.

MS dying would be a good thing. There is only so much money and if Bill has it all it is not very well spread. Pretty simple really. Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kragil) Comments RE[4]: Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360323 http://osnews.com/thread?360323
The MS monopoly cost way more jobs in the whole world than now are lost at MS.


This is not Soviet Russia. We demand sources. Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments Comment by kaiwai http://osnews.com/thread?360332 http://osnews.com/thread?360332 I really feel for those people who are losing their jobs. I find it rather mean that there are people who losing their jobs and people here are revelling in the fact because it happens to be Microsoft.

Whether you like or dislike the policies of Microsoft - there are people involved and what one should be blaming isn't the individuals but the culture that ultimately promotes the very people who perpetuate the current policies. For the vast majority they go along to work, clock themselves in, write the code (or what ever they do whilst at work), clock themselves out and off back home. What we don't hear about are the ordinary folk who work in these large companies.

As for the economic situation; the stimulus package isn't going to fix it because the simple fact of the matter is that the economy needs to find its equilibrium; house prices were inflated, people have too much debt, credit was too cheap during the boom, and people treated their houses like an ATM card. What will fix it is time - not any of the promised economic voodoo that any particular party is pushing.Edited 2009-04-24 13:25 UTC Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kaiwai) Comments RE[2]: Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360389 http://osnews.com/thread?360389 On the other hand, I wouldn't mind certain Steve B lose his job.

Won't hold my breath though.

MS cut about 800 jobs already. The 5K will be done sometime early next year I believe.

With the pace they are going through, there is still hope things won't turn out as bad.

I'd also like to point out Apple has been cutting back workforce in their retail stores lately.

Around 1500 full-time jobs equivalent have been reduced past quarter, though it doesn't necessarily mean 1500 people lost their jobs, maybe part-time offers are been terminated or overtime become unnecessary, after all unlike Microsoft, there are no huge amount of discharge related expenses reported 09Q2.Edited 2009-04-24 19:14 UTC Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (AbiosKleipos) Comments RE[5]: Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360392 http://osnews.com/thread?360392 In Soviet Russia, sources demand *you*! Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE: Comment by kaiwai http://osnews.com/thread?360604 http://osnews.com/thread?360604
I really feel for those people who are losing their jobs. I find it rather mean that there are people who losing their jobs and people here are revelling in the fact because it happens to be Microsoft.

Boo-hoo. Opinions, opinions. I find it amusing in a sadistic sort of way on a company level, although for the individual workers it is kind of sad. But whatever; whatever happens happens. This is the real world, and the real world is not all nice.

The economy has been going to hell for a while now; the fact that it's beginning to bite Microsoft in the ass shouldn't be even remotely surprising. How horrible, a monopoly is finally feeling a sting--something they probably completely forgot the feeling of over a decade ago. Wake-up call, maybe?

In my opinion, they should have felt something long ago; perhaps at the time of the US v. Microsoft, maybe? They've been playing dirty for years with nothing more than a slap on the wrist; it's about time they feel some pain. Better late than never. Who knows... possible catch-up time for some other company/competitor.

Go ahead, you know you wanna mod me straight down to hell.Edited 2009-04-27 00:15 UTC Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (UZ64) Comments RE[2]: Comment by fraterf93 http://osnews.com/thread?360609 http://osnews.com/thread?360609
"YAY!!!
Are you happy that 5,000 people lost their jobs in one of the worst job markets now in 30+ years, and growing worse? Hoping product X finds success competing with product Y or Z is one thing, but to cheer this just makes you out to be am immature ass. "

This very much depends on how you look at it. Microsoft is an employer, and hence jobs provider, for a decent number of people at one company. It is, however, simply a business cost, and hence inhibiter of employment, at countless more businesses.

The overall economic effect would IMO EASILY weigh in in favour of getting rid of the cost of Microsoft software and enabling countless thousands upon thousands of businesses worldwide to employ more people through those savings. Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lemur2) Comments