Unless you have a 4gb SSD, I would just use standard Ubuntu 9.04 and install Eee-control. Once you do that, you're set and everything works straight up.

I think the point was that there were no Mono Apps on EEE-base 2.0, so why did they include the Mono framework? Since that wasn't used by anything.

"Unless you have a 4gb SSD, I would just use standard Ubuntu 9.04 and install Eee-control. Once you do that, you're set and everything works straight up.

Well I can't speak for 2.0 but base 3.0 may have f-spot. It's icon is in the menus

I wrote to Ms Moloney on April 28, asking for the same information: "I understand that the terms of the licences to the patents which Microsoft holds on the .NET development platform permit people to obtain a royalty-free, reasonable and non-discriminatory licence to use them. I would be grateful if you let me know exactly how one obtains such a licence."

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There's a been a deafening silence since then. There the matter stands after nearly a month.

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To me, it looks this licence is as real as the unicorn. Or maybe Santa Claus.

Do you know if Novell have licensed the patents required to create a .NET clone,

As Shields made mention of this kind of licence in his post - to quote: "Related parties have pointed out with relative frequency that those licenses are available under a 'royalty free, reasonable & non discriminatory' license (sic), but free patent protection isn’t remotely good enough, is it?" - the very first question asked by a reader in the forums provided was how one could obtain such a licence for Mono.

Shields appears to have asked de Icaza about this on an IRC channel and posted the great man's responses which were as given below:

[miguel_] Direct, anyone can request it from ECMA
[miguel_] Well, you can request the docs from ECMA
[miguel_] The Gnome Foundation is a member, and whoever is the member can request the docs
[miguel_] It might be possible also for the public to get them but I dont know what you have to do

And Shields added: "I asked, that was the answer. Make of it what you will."

It looks like the man who created Mono himself is not sure how one obtains this "royalty-free, reasonable and non-discriminatory" licence" to avoid violating Microsoft patents in the .NET specification. Strange, one doesn't hear this point being highlighted too often.

they are after all available royalty free and RAND...

Hold off a second... Microsoft has opened the standard of both the C# CLR and CIL. None of the GNOME apps that use Mono use any of the .NET components at all, .NET support could be completely stripped from Mono and yet these apps would still work. What's all this babble about a license to use it and patents for including it?
You can hate .NET and Microsoft all you want... but don't extend that hatred to Mono as a whole. It's not applicable.

Microsoft Compatible API
Run ASP.NET, ADO.NET, and Windows.Forms 2.0 applications without recompilation

When you formally and politely ask ECMA and Microsoft this same question, you get no reply.

To me, it looks this licence is as real as the unicorn. Or maybe Santa Claus.

"When you formally and politely ask ECMA and Microsoft this same question, you get no reply.

Just a small question; does Eeebuntu come with beagle indexer? also, just because GNOME doesn't depend on it doesn't mean that there aren't components whose functionality has been extended using mono or some other scenario, but one has the option of disabling those options at compile time to avoid Mono dependency? I'm unaware of the circumstances regarding GNOME but I am sure there is a legitimate reason for it - have you tried submitting a bug report to Eeebuntu and Ubuntu?

This is incorrect. Tomboy is a part of the official GNOME desktop, from 2.16. -- raof 2008-10-19 04:39:12

Thanks raof, It seems that you are right. "GNOME does not depend on Mono at all. There is one Mono-based application in the official GNOME release suites (Tomboy) that is easily removable if users are not comfortable using Mono." --Jeff Waugh http://www.mail-archive.com/foundation-list@gnome.org/msg02630.html Perhaps it is correct with GNOME, just not with the official GNOME release suites.

EEEBuntu aren't really the problem here, its Ubuntu. EEEBuntu is just a re-master of Ubuntu (albeit one that is very questionable now that Ubuntu itself works fine on netbooks).

" EEEBuntu aren't really the problem here, its Ubuntu. EEEBuntu is just a re-master of Ubuntu (albeit one that is very questionable now that Ubuntu itself works fine on netbooks).

Eeebuntu is still required because it includes the Eee PC control widgets along with making sure it actually works with the Eee PC rather than it being just another generic distribution trying to aim to please al. Having used it and seen what it offers; I see nothing wrong with have netbook specific distributions - infact I actually support something that brings about ease of use for the end user knowing that if they have xyz that they can use distribution xyz that supports his hardware.