OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/21703/What_Old_Software_Do_You_Still_Use_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:50:58 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Norton Commander http://osnews.com/thread?369615 http://osnews.com/thread?369615 I've always kept this around and found it handy for file management. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (testman) Comments UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369617 http://osnews.com/thread?369617 I use the bash console with all the "ls", "mkdir"... I work 1960s style. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lcdumais) Comments For my personal computer, games http://osnews.com/thread?369618 http://osnews.com/thread?369618 For my desktop/laptop I don't have to deal with legacy code for work (unless you count scientific software written in Fortran, which are still maintained), but some games are classics that have yet to be equaled.

In my case, these are Descent 3 and Easy Bridge. Descent 3 runs fine to the extent that your 32-bit OpenGL libs work with your current Xorg setup. Easy Bridge (which helps you learn/train for the card game) just gets better and better under Wine ;) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hypnos) Comments Windows 95? http://osnews.com/thread?369619 http://osnews.com/thread?369619 Most developers were running Windows NT 4.0 workstations. No one in any reasonably sized company was using Windows9x at that time. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (memson) Comments PSP http://osnews.com/thread?369620 http://osnews.com/thread?369620 Still using Paint Shop Pro 7 (2000), as later versions were uselessly more complex. It still works on Win7, why would I have to change? Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ultrabill) Comments Lotus 123 http://osnews.com/thread?369621 http://osnews.com/thread?369621 version 9.5 (1999). It gets done what I need a spreadsheet for in my XP VM, i.e. sorting data to be fed into/ out of Matlab, Eviews, etc. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jimbofluffy) Comments Let me see... http://osnews.com/thread?369622 http://osnews.com/thread?369622 Delphi used to be my main development platform for the longest time and I was stuck at Delphi 5.0 (1999) since release, because most companies decided to not update legacy code and develop new stuff in the emerging DotNet framework. I was still compiling legacy Delphi 5 apps in 2006, and I guess that company still does (as they were still selling Delphi based apps last time I checked.)

I ran BeOS for a long time as my main OS of choice at home.

I have a G3 powerbook and a G3 desktop Mac that still run Panther. I have a Mac 9500 that dual boots BeOS R5 and Mac OS 8.1 (might have 8.6 and/or 9.1 on it too, I forget.)

VB is a crappy language; I end up supporting code written by bad VB6 programmers who decided to move to VB.Net and make a real hash of it. It is quite frightening bad really. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (memson) Comments RE: Norton Commander http://osnews.com/thread?369623 http://osnews.com/thread?369623 Qmodem Pro inside Dosemu on Linux Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (linxdev) Comments Windows 2000 Professional and Server http://osnews.com/thread?369624 http://osnews.com/thread?369624 Does this count?

Some of the servers I manage are still running windows 2000 on them. It still does a great job for what the systems are being used for. I was one of the ones who won a free copy of windows 2000 professional in the prelaunch contest that microsoft had before it was released to the public. I ran it as my main OS on my home computer up until around the time Windows XP SP1 came out. I'm still using it on some of my older systems at home. I hate that Microsoft has pretty much pulled the plug on support for it. I still enjoy using it, and it's comfortable for me. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DREVILl30564) Comments RE: PSP http://osnews.com/thread?369625 http://osnews.com/thread?369625 I stuck to PSP7 for ages, it certainly does get things done. Versions 8 and 9 were bloated and terribly disorganised. With version 10, Corel took over and put the app back on track making it more of a drawing tool than a photo tweaking app and the vectors were greatly enhanced so I switched over as I had pushed 7 to it's technical limits.

Version 11 they then lost the plot again (turning it back into a photo tweaker) and I haven't tried version 12 yet, but then 10 does everything I need and I suspect I will stick with it for another three years or more. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kroc) Comments Still have the old games http://osnews.com/thread?369626 http://osnews.com/thread?369626 I am still playing Unreal Tournament (1999 edition), Unreal Tournament 2003, Quake3 ,Max Payne 1&2, Soldier of Fortune II. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vikramsharma) Comments Old stuff http://osnews.com/thread?369627 http://osnews.com/thread?369627 I am still using Windows XP ;)

Well, besides old games and so on, I also used VB6 for quite a long time (I stopped using it in 2005 or so). And I still use Office 2002 or 2003 (don't know actually).

Another thing is Micrografx Picture Publisher 7 or 8, I think 8, it's from maybe 2000 or so, and it's still my favourite picture editing software. Besides that, I also use MS Paint quite a lot. It's perfect for quick stuff, and if you really know how to use it, you can do a lot of things with it. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Glynser) Comments Comment by LB06 http://osnews.com/thread?369628 http://osnews.com/thread?369628 I'm using several userland GNU or BSD tools which may or may not have been updated since 1960 ;) . But I guess they don't really count.

And I occasionally play a SNES game (on an up to date version of zsnes though), but apart from that, not really. I tend not to use software that is no longer maintained. I do use a lot of 'old' software, but all of them have been updated along the road at least a couple of times. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (LB06) Comments Sheep Screenmate (POO) http://osnews.com/thread?369631 http://osnews.com/thread?369631 I mostly play old games using DosBox. Other than that... hum, I still have that screen mate sheep called poo. I've dumped the ressource from the executable a while ago in the goal of recoding the sceenmate, but I didn't had the time. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (werfu) Comments Comment by Stephen! http://osnews.com/thread?369632 http://osnews.com/thread?369632 Windows 2000
Paintshop Pro 5
Photoshop Elements 2
DOGA-L1 (3D software)
DVD Shrink
DVD Decrypter
Ulead DVD Workshop 2
MPEG-VCR
WinDVD 2000 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Stephen!) Comments Symantec Q&A for Dos http://osnews.com/thread?369633 http://osnews.com/thread?369633 Still works too. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (systyrant) Comments Basic windows apps http://osnews.com/thread?369634 http://osnews.com/thread?369634 Notepad, calc, etc.... ok, maybe they have been recompiled since their origins but functionality has not changed. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Loki_999) Comments RE: PSP http://osnews.com/thread?369635 http://osnews.com/thread?369635 I'm still using PSP 6 :-)

I liked it since version 2.something on my 286 and Windows 3.1, and up to 7, but I stick with 6. Didn't even look next versions. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (biffuz) Comments Starcraft http://osnews.com/thread?369636 http://osnews.com/thread?369636 In all its 640x480 pixel, 256 colour glory!

Still a cracker of a game though! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (HappyGod) Comments Surprised to see http://osnews.com/thread?369637 http://osnews.com/thread?369637 some fellow readers using the same software

1. Paint Shop Pro 7, it's ultrafast, uses hardly any memory, nice streamlined interface and it simply gets the job done quickly.

2. Delphi 6, builds incredibly fast win32 apps and the IDE is nice and clean. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (REM2000) Comments ZOC http://osnews.com/thread?369638 http://osnews.com/thread?369638 I started using ZOC, Zap-O-Comm, back when it was available for OS/2.
Since then I've migrated to Windows where I ran it and lately Mac OS X which it was fairly recently ported to.

And yes, my registration number from the OS/2 days have been working all along!

It's a great terminal app as it supports everything from plain telnet to 5250 and 3270.

http://www.emtec.com/zoc/ Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dlundh) Comments Comment by BiPolar http://osnews.com/thread?369639 http://osnews.com/thread?369639 Winamp 2.95 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BiPolar) Comments GoldED+ http://osnews.com/thread?369640 http://osnews.com/thread?369640 GoldED+ ;) Thanks to Fido-Paket deluxe ( http://www.it-dienste.de/fpd/english.htm ) I'm still able to use Fido Netmail, Echos, VGA Planets and all that fun over Internet. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (croco) Comments X-Com: UFO Defense http://osnews.com/thread?369641 http://osnews.com/thread?369641 One of the best and classic turn based strategy games out there. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ian Christie) Comments Delphi, Photoshop 7 http://osnews.com/thread?369643 http://osnews.com/thread?369643 It's great to see people here still using Delphi. I'm still using Delphi 6, and am maintaining apps I made back in '02, which run just fine.

It's amazingly sad, but nothing this decade comes close to the 15 year-old Delphi data-aware control framework. Nothing from .NET, or Java, or Flex or Javascript. Only MS Access comes close. I'm thinking of replicating the data part of the VCL in WPF 4 / Silverlight, but am only at the outlining stages.

I also just used Photoshop 7 for some graphics on a web site I just built. Is that old enough? It does everything I need. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arbour42) Comments Not many http://osnews.com/thread?369644 http://osnews.com/thread?369644 Other than old games probably none. I'm presuming that you mean software that havent been updated in the last 5 years and not software released more than 5 years ago that is still being updated. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments In education, almost everything is old ... http://osnews.com/thread?369645 http://osnews.com/thread?369645 Educational software publishers seem to treat software for the elementary grades like cartoons or books: kids won't notice how old it is and parents will treat it as classics, so why spend money even updating it. Just pull the oldest OS off of the system requirements and put the latest OS on the supported list. It doesn't matter if it won't work on new hardware because the new hardware is too fast or has too much RAM. It doesn't matter if it won't run on the newest OS because it requires access restricted to administrative users. Just say it's fine and hope that no one notices.

It wouldn't surprise me if there are still Windows 3.x programs on the market.

In reality I do use a lot of older software by choice. It doesn't make sense to use new software when the old stuff: (a) does everything I need and does it better, (b) works on my current hardware/OS, (c) doesn't consume resources for no apparent reason, (d) has a cleaner user interface, and (e) is cheaper. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MacTO) Comments RE: Still have the old games http://osnews.com/thread?369646 http://osnews.com/thread?369646 Mostly old Windows applications or games that I still use occasionally. I run these Windows through Wine:

- Half-Life
- DVD Decrypter
- MP3Gain GUI
- MP3DirectCut
- BeSweet.exe
- MP4box.exe
- Exact Audio Copy + NeroAACEnc.exe

And I use these oldies natively in Linux:

- Quake 3
- Amarok 1.4.10 (not that old, but EOL)Edited 2009-06-22 13:57 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raffraffraff) Comments Photoshop 7.0 http://osnews.com/thread?369649 http://osnews.com/thread?369649 I still use Photoshop 7.0 since I bought a copy way back 2002. It never failed me (aside from a few crashes) and I spent working my best art projects with it!

I remember it as a memory hog on my old 400Mhz celeron and 64mb memory. Now it runs blistering fast on my Core 2 Duo and 2GB RAM. Pure delight. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (remerico) Comments A few http://osnews.com/thread?369650 http://osnews.com/thread?369650 Half-life 1 (About 12 years old now!) I run it in Crossover Games.

Jazz Jackrabbit - amazing scrolling on a 386! I run it in Dosbox.

Powerdesk - when I do the Windows thing, I like my Powerdesk - a NC style file manager. I've used it since version 1.

My dream is to get a laptop running with DOS and Wifi - there were a few 802.11b cards that had Dos drivers - and surf the web with Arachne. It's quite a challenge, because it is hard to get the PCMCIA stuff working under DOS. Plus, by the time you are done, you don't have much lower Dos memory left.

I definitely agree with the article about VB6. I could create fairly large projects very quickly. I had a pardigm down - the first thing I did was create a good class hierarchy for my app that did the saving and loading of data. The interface came second. To me, it was really a shame what Microsoft did to their "VB Guys". It didn't bother me, because I was also a Visual C++ and Java developer, so VB.Net was right up my alley. However, the simplicity of VB6 - IF USED WISELY - was a beautiful thing.

Also, having come from the DOS world, I really think Microsoft made a big mistake with Windows 95. They should have kept the separation between DOS and the graphical shell. That is why I am a Linux dude today. I have a full-powered OS apart from the graphical interface. The GUI is a convenience, not a necessity. Windows is just now getting back to that with Powershell and a non-gui server version of the OS. They should never have merged the GUI and the underlying OS. Bad things happen! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments RE: Sheep Screenmate (POO) http://osnews.com/thread?369651 http://osnews.com/thread?369651 You still have that little Sheep? that's amazing you mentioned it. I still let it walk around at times. The timestamp on mine says 1997 - i think i first ran it on a Win95 system. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arbour42) Comments Science software http://osnews.com/thread?369652 http://osnews.com/thread?369652 At work, most of the software is rather old and most of the computers run XP. Office 2000 and AutoCad 2000 are common. Also, most of the science software versions date to 1999 and older - Surfer, Matlab, etc.

Most of our computers (older laptops, older low-end desktops, and new netbooks) simply cannot run the newest versions of large software installations. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bobthearch) Comments My list (non-games) http://osnews.com/thread?369653 http://osnews.com/thread?369653 Windows Server 2003 (6 years, but it still receive updates).
Borland Delphi 7 - occasionally issues with security settings (file permissions) when running as 'standard user'.
MP Compressor (1997) - butt old but works, but it has issues with security settings (file permissions) when running as 'standard user'.
Autocad 2002 - it has issues with security settings when running as 'standard user' (file permissions and read/write access to privileged areas in the registry database)
Parts of Office XP and parts of Office 2003 (a matter of licensing issues - I'm not using warez, so I'm using a blend of what I'm allowed to).

Don't get me started on games...

EDIT: On Linux everything is reasonably new, though Firestarter is beginning to look old ;) Edited 2009-06-22 14:13 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments Corel, Eudora, Claris, ACDsee, Nero, PSP7, RA2, FM2005 http://osnews.com/thread?369655 http://osnews.com/thread?369655 Nice topic Kroc!

I have moved on regarding a lot of old software that doesn't have a compatible version for today's modern operating systems.

On the Mac, I remember using Corel WordPerfect for a long time, Eudora Lite was a regular too at University... Claris software was also pretty solid and straightforward. I recall ClarisWorks (later AppleWorks), Claris Em@iler, HyperCard... good old times.

On Windows, I remember holding on to some old versions of ACDSee, Nero and Paintshop Pro 7, as later versions just added a lot of unnecessary (at least to me) fat and complexity. DVD Shrink was also very useful for a long, long time.

Nowadays the only old software that I still run (occasionally) are two Windows games via Parallels (with an nLited XP). I still enjoy playing C&C Red Alert 2 (Yuri's) in Skirmish mode and still hold on to Football Manager 2005 (have a saved game on the 20th season or something). They run fine, it's a shame I have less and less time to play anything more than a casual game on the iPhone or the Nintendo DS...Edited 2009-06-22 14:31 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Governa) Comments Windows Cardfile http://osnews.com/thread?369657 http://osnews.com/thread?369657 I'm still using win3.x cardfile. It runs fine in win7. Doom and Doom 2.

And OS/2 Warp in a vm. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (juandelach) Comments RE: Science software http://osnews.com/thread?369658 http://osnews.com/thread?369658 My wife uses PAUP, which runs on Mac OS Classic, but since she got a new Intel Mac recently, I had to get SheepShaver with Mac OS 9 working for her. I was surprised to find out from her that its been pretty stable - she can keep SheepShaver open for days on end! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (LGordon) Comments RE: X-Com: UFO Defense http://osnews.com/thread?369659 http://osnews.com/thread?369659 Second that ;) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pashar) Comments Not very long computer ready for the world http://osnews.com/thread?369660 http://osnews.com/thread?369660 As a non-English-speaker, you would find there are few old application is ready for your language. Unicode-aware software appear only these recent one or two years. Windows XP, even Vista still can't process a lot non-English characters correctly. Word calculating, correct way to delete single character, auto-wrapping, all these for non-English languages are only available in recent few years. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (middleware) Comments RE[2]: Sheep Screenmate (POO) http://osnews.com/thread?369661 http://osnews.com/thread?369661 I first run on 16 bits version of it on my old IBM PS/1 under Windows 3.0. The current version I have is a 32bits apps though. I think the author have updated it after 95.

Thinking of it, used to run the Sierra Screenantics Johny Castaway screen saver. They never made a 32bit version of it though. I could try to export all the ressources and recode it, or I could even decompile it. Win16 applications were far from complicated. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (werfu) Comments WinTV http://osnews.com/thread?369662 http://osnews.com/thread?369662 I still use WinTV. Problem is Windows 7 doesn't seem to support it. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (knightrider) Comments VB6 http://osnews.com/thread?369663 http://osnews.com/thread?369663 I used to work in VB6 as my primary language. I think it was pretty harmful to my mind programming for it. The easy things were easy, but the moderately difficult things were impossibly hard. Usually requiring one to call a win32 api call, and guess how the variables would be translated. Some api calls were impossible to make, because the used pointers. Dealing with XML, Web services was a pain in the but. Creating anything but the most basic interfaces was impossible. Third party libraries were unreliable, poorly coded, highly restrictive and ugly.

I don't live in a Microsoft world, I jumped ship shortly after .net. Maybe the current Visual studio Interface is worse. But, I can't imagine its more difficult for people to learn. You can still just draw a form add controls double click on the control and modify its behavior when clicked, right? I thought most people moved on to C# with out too much trouble. Its still not nearly as bad as Java, from my point of view. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Bill Shooter of Bul) Comments ACDSee Classic http://osnews.com/thread?369665 http://osnews.com/thread?369665 Image viewer for Windows from about year 2000. It's fast and it does ONE thing only, views pictures. ACDSystems updated it, but added image management and editing features and it's slow and junky in my opinion.

I even use it on Linux via WINE, even being non-native it's faster and better designed than any other image viewer on Linux I've used. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (erikharmon) Comments nedit http://osnews.com/thread?369666 http://osnews.com/thread?369666 I depend on nedit's macros. It just replays keystrokes but you combine this with ctrl-f for find and other things and it can be pretty powerful. On Windows TextPad has this capability. I would switch to something more modern if they had record / playback. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FunkyELF) Comments Daytimer Organizer from 1999 http://osnews.com/thread?369667 http://osnews.com/thread?369667 My wife still uses the old Daytimer organizer from 1999, and has never once wanted an updated version. It was first installed on her Windows 98 system, and has since lived through Windows 2000, Windows XP, and now Windows Vista. I never bother to run the install software, either. I just copy the files into place and put a shortcut to the .exe file on her desktop. No registry crap, no hidden programs running in the background to 'provide critical updates'(er... spyware), etc...

The fact that the software just WORKS across multiple versions of Windows, and that it starts up in less than a second makes me wonder whatever happened to software development. Isn't it the faintest bit possible that we have overcomplicated things to the point of absurdity?

Oh, and get off my lawn, you kids.Edited 2009-06-22 15:28 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rycamor) Comments None http://osnews.com/thread?369668 http://osnews.com/thread?369668 Nothing old here.

Although you could make a case that Miranda is a very classic IM application - that is, small and without useless fluff and bullshit. It's completely modern, though, code-wise. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments Lotus Organizer 6.1 http://osnews.com/thread?369669 http://osnews.com/thread?369669 I stil use Lotus Organizer 6 and won't move to anything else.
It's pretty beautiful, small, quick, produces a small file easy to backup. Support several output formats to export so I can easily upload to google calendar, gmail contacts, cell phones, palm, etc.

If my PDA/IPhone supports sync with Lotus, ok
but if it wasn't supported, I create a .csv file, load it into my PDA and won't sincronize again (as it is full loaded with my contacts already)

Irfanview32 is still updated but its classic interface makes it eligible to be included in this topic. ;) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tecepeipe) Comments Let me think .. http://osnews.com/thread?369671 http://osnews.com/thread?369671 Here at work:

RM/COBOL-85 Runtime (Version 4.10.02) for DOS 2.00+. Configured for 001 user.
(c) Copyright 1985, 1989 by Ryan McFarland Corp. All rights reserved.

CLEAR ? ;)

also:

· Autocad R14, most of time typing commands, as old-skool style.

· Winamp 2.91

And somthing sure I left, but it hasn't to be really important.

kisses Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Aeko) Comments LambdaMOO http://osnews.com/thread?369672 http://osnews.com/thread?369672 My home computer still runs a lambdaMOO server. It is a kind of MUD (precursor of Wow for people born in this century)for social and programming purposes. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (protomank) Comments Just few http://osnews.com/thread?369673 http://osnews.com/thread?369673 Windows XP
Anjuta 1.x (IDE linux) - too many functions broke in new version
and few old games
Fury of Furies
Magic the Gathering Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ikshaar) Comments what I use http://osnews.com/thread?369674 http://osnews.com/thread?369674 Assuming you mean "software that hasn't been updated in over 5 years" and not "any software originally created over 5 years ago," my list pretty much comes down to a number of games. Which, incidentally, is the primary reason I dual-boot (which I wish I didn't have to do).

I can't think of a single person I've met who owns a PC (including my parents and grandparents) who doesn't play at least one or two PC games. I'm consistently irritated by how the Linux desktop developers and companies seem to think games are unimportant and that 95% of people just use computers for Web and email. I think most hardcore Linux users are not heavy game players (if they were, they probably wouldn't be hardcore Linux users) and so they have a tough time grasping the fact that most everyone else _is_ a gamer to some degree. This is pretty similar to how most Linux developers have a tough time with good UIs because we have a different idea of "good UI" than most regular users (I prefer a Bash shell, but naturally most people do not). Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (elanthis) Comments Great thread! http://osnews.com/thread?369675 http://osnews.com/thread?369675 This is a fun article. ;)

Oh I wish I still had boxes dedicated to BeOS, OS/2, etc. I just don't have the room. For work they seem to think that we need to constantly push the technology bubble so we are always using the latest and greatest... too bad.

I guess the only "old" software I am using right now is Euphoria 3. Otherwise, only games... I am running Windows 7 on my main box right now. Had OS X running as well but could not get Windows to play well with the boot manager. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments Wait, what? VB6? http://osnews.com/thread?369677 http://osnews.com/thread?369677 I had the displeasure of using vb 6 once or twice to debug some old crap lying around.

To me it's more like the kind of software that leaves you wondering "how can anyone ever possibly think this thing was any good?"

Then again there are people who are praising each horrible new iteration of visual studio, people who use digital watches, etc. so it's not really surprising. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MORB) Comments NEdit 5.5 (2004)_ http://osnews.com/thread?369678 http://osnews.com/thread?369678 (a) Cross platform -- none of the other ones run on Linux, AIX, Solaris, HPux, and even the occasional
IRIX machines I have to use;
(b) Faster than the Gnome and KDE programming editors,
especially for large files;
(c) Better programming-language support for languages
used in HPCC and environmental modeling;
(d) My fingers are already trained for it :-) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cjcoats) Comments Comment by madcrow http://osnews.com/thread?369679 http://osnews.com/thread?369679 I run TOPS-20 7.0 in a PDP-10 emulator. Great OS with one of the best thought out and well-implemented command lines ever. It even does TCP/IP, so if I could figure out how to get it's pre-DHCP network stack to talk to my crappy Westell Verizon router... Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (madcrow) Comments What i use http://osnews.com/thread?369680 http://osnews.com/thread?369680 Redhat 6.0 on my main dual core 5Gb rama desktop!! ;) it is upgraded a lot from i guess almost 10 years since i installed it.. but many of the original programs still have year2000 /1999 on them ;) So you can imagine how much of the old software is now collected on this 10+ years long instalation.. one of the thing is gnome 1.x ;) and netscape3? ;) but i dont really use it, but it is fun to see sometimes how modern pages just dont work ;)

root@serenity /: # cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
root@serenity /: # uname -a
Linux serenity.localdomain 2.6.24 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 20 11:07:19 CET 2008 i686 unknownEdited 2009-06-22 16:15 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dmc_dtc) Comments RE: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369681 http://osnews.com/thread?369681 Emacs Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (xeniast) Comments XV http://osnews.com/thread?369682 http://osnews.com/thread?369682 I still use the xv image viewer, the latest version of which came out in 1994 i believe... It's an image viewer for X11 and has very good keyboard controls, including the option to zoom to full screen while retaining the aspect ratio and not having any gui elements taking up parts of the screen you would be using to view the image. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bert64) Comments RE: what I use http://osnews.com/thread?369683 http://osnews.com/thread?369683 There are games out there for linux.

http://www.linuxgames.com/ Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (knightrider) Comments Me, too: XV http://osnews.com/thread?369684 http://osnews.com/thread?369684 ...forgot about that one! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cjcoats) Comments CodeWarrior, never let go http://osnews.com/thread?369685 http://osnews.com/thread?369685 Until a few weeks ago, I was still using Win2000 for various reasons, mostly refusal to give MS any more $ for functions I didn't want like activation, DRM and useless eye candy but I did badly want hardware drivers. That old OS let me run lots of old developer tools. Most of my code work is on the CodeWarrior IDE which I fell in love with under MacOS 8.x and then BeOS too. When I went to Win2K I sort of liked VC6 but I found it rather MS centric. I found CodeWarrior had long died off in 2002 when Motorola took over so I got the windows version from a torrent. Thank goodness some old software can be found on torrents (I did pay boatloads for the old MacOS licenses so I could care less).


A new mobo and quadcore forced me to switch to Vista and OSX. Luckily Vista runs most of the old stuff just fine, CW8, Textpad, Winamp with a few updates. OSX though everything is always spanky clean. When I fire up BeOS on an 10yr old kit, every thing is old but small lean and mean! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (transputer_guy) Comments Corel 6 http://osnews.com/thread?369686 http://osnews.com/thread?369686 CorelDraw and Corel Paint. 1996-ish I believe. I prefer the object manipulation in this version versus the layers in Photoshop and CorelPaint 9 which I also bought, maybe because I can't find the time to learn 'the new way'. The only thing that doesn't work is the file browser window which doesn't allow me to change 'views' (details, icons, list, etc) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sdodds) Comments Amos BASIC Professional http://osnews.com/thread?369687 http://osnews.com/thread?369687 I use AmosPro under EUAE running AmigaOS 3.9 on my Mac. The orange, yellow and cyan GUI hasn't aged well. (The default GUI colors were unpopular when Amos first came out also.) It accesses graphics acceleration features that are not present on modern GPUs also.

A friend and I am trying to make a new replacement for it but it has proved to be more difficult than we had planned. AmosPro had the unique ability to add commands to the language by using an extension written in raw 68000 machine language. Hopefully our Mattathias BASIC will be able to do everything that AmosPro did. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments RE: Still have the old games http://osnews.com/thread?369688 http://osnews.com/thread?369688 Carmageddon!
Richard Burns Rally
And Grand Prix Legends. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (friday) Comments RE[2]: PSP http://osnews.com/thread?369689 http://osnews.com/thread?369689
I'm still using PSP 6 :-)

OMG! When did Sony get the time to release PlayStationPortable 6 ?!?!?!?! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JAlexoid) Comments RE: Norton Commander http://osnews.com/thread?369690 http://osnews.com/thread?369690
I've always kept this around and found it handy for file management.


You could use Midnight Commander, which is free, it works on Linux as well as on Windows (cross platform).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GNU_Midnight_Commander_4.1.36_Win... Edited 2009-06-22 18:03 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (diego) Comments Painter 6 http://osnews.com/thread?369691 http://osnews.com/thread?369691 Back when it was by meta creations. They had a version that worked with a tablet and the brushed worked in an amazing way which they haven't been able to duplicate or bring back since (despite the cries of many users in various art forums). It also had a funny bug, it would crash if you had more than 512mb without a patch they had provided separately. Getting this to work in parallels with the proper tablet support is hit and miss. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (neuroscr) Comments RE[2]: Still have the old games http://osnews.com/thread?369692 http://osnews.com/thread?369692 Carmageddon rocked! And so did the soundtrack! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (suryad) Comments BeOS http://osnews.com/thread?369693 http://osnews.com/thread?369693 I still use BeOS loads. Also playing with Haiku.

There's also a PowerBook here with Codewarrior and such on it that is nice for playing with C/C++. I don't know either that well yet, and when I take some time to muck about with them I usually turn to CW to engage in some nostalgia as well.

Same PowerBook G3 has the SCSI remote control software for my Yamaha A5k sampler on it, as that is OS9 only, and Logic 4.8.something.

I think I've got Win2k on one of the drives in my old Compaq tower, but I don't use it for anything. That tower also has NeXTStep/Intel on it, but I only tried it a few times and decided I didn't like the GUI, and besides I don't have any apps for. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (paws) Comments RE[2]: X-Com: UFO Defense http://osnews.com/thread?369694 http://osnews.com/thread?369694 There's a steam version which they ported it to dosbox and fixed up some bugs. I still play it too. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (neuroscr) Comments Brief http://osnews.com/thread?369695 http://osnews.com/thread?369695 A few seconds ago, I heard that from the Security Now podcast (episode 200) that Steve Gibson, are still using the Brief Editor to code Assembly.

It amazes me that a 20 year old DOS editor works in a modern Windows version. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jonix) Comments OS/2 Warp 4 http://osnews.com/thread?369696 http://osnews.com/thread?369696 On occasion I use and really love OS/2 Warp 4.

The funny thing is that last year I bought a Mac Mini and Parallels VM to run OS/2 on. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jonix) Comments Steinberg Clean http://osnews.com/thread?369697 http://osnews.com/thread?369697 I use a program called Steinberg Clean Plus (2003) to automatically clean the pops, clicks, and noise when ripping vinyl to wav. Its UI is clumsy and most other features are half-baked, but it can't be beat for automating the cleaning process.

I tried using GoldWave, WavLab, and Audacity, but who has time to go through every pop on every track on every record? It's a two hour chore to rip a record (and tweak the audio levels/ restart the recording) and encode/ label the files. Manually cleaning each album takes all day. Clean automates the cleaning process and does it with better quality and more customization than any other automated system I've found.

It also came with a very good preamp (the Plus) to connect a regular turntable to the line-in. The preamp alone was worth the $50 cost of the whole package. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hae-Yu) Comments RE: BeOS http://osnews.com/thread?369698 http://osnews.com/thread?369698 I still use BeOS loads. Also playing with Haiku.

Ditto. I have yet to find an MP3 player that I like as much as SoundPlay, or a text editor as nice as Pe. And for my tastes, Vision is as close to perfect as any IRC client on any OS. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE: What i use http://osnews.com/thread?369699 http://osnews.com/thread?369699 I have an old Linux install kicking around that's almost that old (Mandrake 6.1), running on an P3 450. It's serving some old Perl/MySQL web app written by a developer who is now long-gone. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments Day of the tentacle http://osnews.com/thread?369700 http://osnews.com/thread?369700 Every year or so I spend a few nights playing the classical Lucas Arts game, such as Day of the Tentacle, Pirate of the Carribean, etc.

Also some of the earlier Sierra Online games, such as Heroes Quest (Quest for glory), Kings Quest 3.

Thanks to the ScummVM it still works under Windows, and even for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jonix) Comments RE: What i use http://osnews.com/thread?369701 http://osnews.com/thread?369701 We wont to see your uptime Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jonix) Comments Comment by Elv13 http://osnews.com/thread?369702 http://osnews.com/thread?369702 XMMS (1.2)
EmelFM (1)
Aterm
XPdf
Xv
XFig
Fontforge
My system have both dinosaurs and bleeding edge svn build, it feel strange. But I like those old apps, the work so fast on modern system and have all feature I need.

Anybody know some other useful apps as fast as those to replace some of the modern slow beast? Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Elv13) Comments RE[2]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369704 http://osnews.com/thread?369704 I really feel sorry for all of the users out there who have not discovered the glory of the One True Editor. Not only do they waste their time memorizing a different UI paradigm for every task they could possibly ever want to use a computer for, they're not even aware of a Better Way (namely, Emacs, of course).

As an Emacs user, a conversation like this is pointless, since I use Emacs for just about everything. Whenever I want to do something new, chances are that Emacs can do it, and since I already know and love Emacs, getting a keymap for a new mode is just a C-h m away.

Emacs forever! Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bm3719) Comments Old software http://osnews.com/thread?369705 http://osnews.com/thread?369705 I'm hoping that I haven't reached the crusty age where everything built after my time is "just bloat" ;)

- I still use microsoft paint extensively.
- Nethack from time to time
- Power defragmenter - costs nothing, works as well as any commercial product. Google it.
- I still use windows XP at work ;) . I'd have something modern, but the ERP app isn't certified with anything newer.
- VI. Vi forever!!

Other than that, I like to try the latest and greatest of everything. That's the fun part.Edited 2009-06-22 18:54 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (morglum666) Comments dictionnary http://osnews.com/thread?369706 http://osnews.com/thread?369706 I have an old software that is a 5 langauge dictionnary from microsoft (biblirom larousse) in its 2000 edition (last one ?) and it works like a charm (on win XP) and I am missing it since I moved to vista (had to with the new hardware, xp would have sucked), amd am waiting xp mode on seven ;) ! (gonna install it soon)

I'm also addicted to "foldersize" although not a very old software it has been around since win xp only but doesn't wok on vista/seven and I am missing this feature so much I have to use a VM to "explore" my HDs, damn microsoft :/ Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (po134) Comments Let's see... http://osnews.com/thread?369709 http://osnews.com/thread?369709 I got this old Olivetti computer that's in use.
Got some other computers aswell...

I'm running
Freedos
MS.Dos 6.22 with and without windows 3.11/95/98/workstation 6 (dos shell)
Beos r5
Windows 2 (virtualized)
Haiku

Old games?

Bouncing Babies!
http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/bouncing-babies/ Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mpxlbs) Comments PSP http://osnews.com/thread?369710 http://osnews.com/thread?369710 - Paint Shop Pro 7 (using since it was an image processing utility in version 1.0 - used it to create a animated gif (or something like that) made out of iff images captured in an Amiga!!!)
- Powermenu
- Old VNC Client
- Keynote [ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynote_(notetaking_software) ] but dumping it for notepad + dropbox
- many small utilities in linux Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (drcursor) Comments Some old Amiga-stuff http://osnews.com/thread?369711 http://osnews.com/thread?369711 I still use Brilliance on my old 40MHz Amiga 4000 whenever I want to pixel something. None of the newer paint-programs I have tried has come close to it in terms of ease of use when creating tile-based graphics with low color-depth.

I also use Directory Opus 4 quite a lot and I think it's the best filemanager ever! Lots of things to configure and very powerful! And quick, and easy to use, I just love it ;)

AmosPro, it's the first programming language I ever really used (sure, I spent some time with the C64's basic interpreter, but never did anything serious with it). If I ever feel creative and want to throw something together really quick, I always end up making it in AMOS. To bad it hasn't been updated since '94 (I think).Edited 2009-06-22 19:34 UTC Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fx__) Comments Kings Quest http://osnews.com/thread?369712 http://osnews.com/thread?369712 Kings Quest / Space Quest and Hitchhikers guide on Apple IIe. - and if i could find that damn boot floppy maybe some Larry Bird vs Doc J ;) ...

Ofcourse all the BeOS software i still uses counts too, right ;) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (YNOP) Comments RE: Steinberg Clean http://osnews.com/thread?369714 http://osnews.com/thread?369714 I use a program called Steinberg Clean Plus (2003) to automatically clean the pops, clicks, and noise when ripping vinyl to wav.

That's funny - some friends of mine just asked me to convert some old vinyl to CD for them, and they specifically said not to remove the pops and clicks ;) (of course, these are folks who constantly pontificate about the superiority of vinyl - yet never seem willing to do a simple double-blind test). Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE: Comment by BiPolar http://osnews.com/thread?369718 http://osnews.com/thread?369718 Oh yes the last good clean fast audio focused no bullshit Winamp. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bibe) Comments More than I thought... http://osnews.com/thread?369719 http://osnews.com/thread?369719 As with a few other people here, I'm still using Photoshop 7 (and the contemporary version of Illustrator - AI 10). There's a copy of MS Works 2.0 (16-bit) that I still have kicking around, just about the only MS word processor that I can tolerate for actual *writing* - although it's certainly showing its age (no "squiggly-underline" spell checking, no auto-pagination, etc). Some ancient version of QuickBooks, an old 6.x version of Nero Express (can't stand the UI of newer versions), and an old HTML/code editor called Arachnophilia (there's an updated Java version, but I prefer the old Win32 version).

With games, I actually tend to *prefer* older ones. Jedi Outcast, Quake 1 (nothing beats it for some mindless deathmatch, IMO), Homeworld, Virtual Pool 3, Max Payne, etc. Oh, and a game that me and a few friends came up with - "car surfing" in GTA3 (jump on top of a car, shoot it, then try to stay on as long as possible). Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE: WinTV http://osnews.com/thread?369721 http://osnews.com/thread?369721 Huh try Dscaler if u are using analog TV card, I didn't knew how fast my WinTV card can be till I found it.

http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/ Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bibe) Comments RE: Day of the tentacle http://osnews.com/thread?369722 http://osnews.com/thread?369722 Every year or so I spend a few nights playing the classical Lucas Arts game, such as Day of the Tentacle, Pirate of the Carribean, etc.

The Dig is still fun too (except for the bloody "re-assemble the fish skeleton puzzle," grrrr). Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE: X-Com: UFO Defense http://osnews.com/thread?369723 http://osnews.com/thread?369723 Never got as good as UFO: Enemy unknown IMO. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wazoox) Comments old or obsolete? http://osnews.com/thread?369724 http://osnews.com/thread?369724 I use plenty of old software, but I don't think I really use anything obsolete; something that's been replaced by something newer and "better."

It's always tempting when something goes bloat though. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JMcCarthy) Comments RE: old or obsolete? http://osnews.com/thread?369728 http://osnews.com/thread?369728 I still play a lot of old games:
Panzer General II - 1997
Diablo II -2000
Close Combat - 97-2000
Heroes of Might and Magic - 95-2002

When compared to today's games, these certainly do not stack up when comparing the graphics, but the gameplay is hands down superior. The gaming industry it seems as a whole has decided to put everything into bright shiny FX, and spend little to no time developing the gameplay. The last Heroes game was so devoid of any AI, they just simply wrote it to cheat to provide a challenge. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ssa2204) Comments RE[2]: Still have the old games http://osnews.com/thread?369729 http://osnews.com/thread?369729 +1 for Quake 3

Btw, do NES roms count? ;-) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (korpenkraxar) Comments Paint Shop Pro 5 http://osnews.com/thread?369730 http://osnews.com/thread?369730 I still use PaintShopPro 5, that came out in 1998. I don't like any other image manipulation software for quick editing, not even the newer versions of the said software (I had bought a newer version, I uninstalled it, and went back to PSP5). I do use Photoshop or Gimp for more involved things, but for 99% of the stuff I do with images usually, PSP5 does it near-perfectly for me. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eugenia) Comments RE[3]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369733 http://osnews.com/thread?369733 "Except it takes forever to learn"

(aww c'mon no mention of emacs is complete without vi) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FealDorf) Comments nvi http://osnews.com/thread?369734 http://osnews.com/thread?369734 I use nvi version 1.79 (released in 1996) daily at work. Vim is my IDE, but because of all the vim scripts/plugins loading at startup, nvi is much quicker to use for those quick edits in the terminal. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jarlea) Comments RE: Comment by BiPolar http://osnews.com/thread?369735 http://osnews.com/thread?369735 AIMP2

is the perfect replace for Winamp 2 series Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Michael Oliveira) Comments Mac OS 9 http://osnews.com/thread?369737 http://osnews.com/thread?369737 If my MacBook could run it natively, I mean. OS 9 was the last OS by Apple before they replaced thought, consistency and usability with ohhh-coool-flashy-graphics.

Its been years, and still many of the US features of OS 9 has not reached OS X (and some of those that did, like spatial Finder, has been botched up royally by Apple) Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rajan r) Comments Here is my list http://osnews.com/thread?369738 http://osnews.com/thread?369738 VB6, MS Office 2K, an old disk catalogging software from 2001(if anybody knows a good free disc catalogger that works in XP X64 let me know) plus a ton of old games like Deus Ex. Funny that the author mentions that he would never use Win9X anymore, when I actually keep a 733Mhz with Win98 around just for the old stuff that won't run on XP.

For example the box set for Medal of Honor includes two expansion packs for MoH that I have never been able to get to run in XP32, much less XP X64. By keeping an old 733Mhz around I am able to use this software(which I bought new last year and it STILL doesn't work in XP! WTF?) and get my monies worth. If it ain't broke, why fix it? Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bassbeast) Comments Nethack and IrcII http://osnews.com/thread?369743 http://osnews.com/thread?369743 I still fire up Nethack once in a while but still can't get very far without enabling Wizard mode.

When I want to go into IRC I still use the good old original text-based IrcII. No reason really for the flashy GUI stuff in a chat channel. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dtarsky) Comments Fun Stuffs http://osnews.com/thread?369744 http://osnews.com/thread?369744 When I've a bit of spare time, I sometimes pull out the old NES or SNES emulators. I've also got a Macintosh Plus that I pulled out for the first time in years and found some of my most favorite games in the entire history of the universe on it: Arkanoid and MacMissiles. Risk was pretty fun, too, all in its glorious black-and-white beauty. On the Plus I also have Microsoft Word 5.0 as well as Excel that I used pretty frequently up until 2002 or 2003. Not to mention the original Hypercard. I felt so special that I could program in Hypercard. ;) Oh, and the Plus runs system 6.0.2. How lovely. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (weildish) Comments nvi http://osnews.com/thread?369748 http://osnews.com/thread?369748 Several bits of FreeBSD might be older, but nvi is one I use every day, which looking at the CVS changelog has been almost unchanged since 1996. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sweetnavelorange) Comments Think Pascal http://osnews.com/thread?369750 http://osnews.com/thread?369750 I'm using Think Pascal for a hobby compiler project. It's still my favorite IDE, even though it hasn't been updated (or sold) for about 15 years. It's all 68000-based code for MacOS 6/7, so it runs in a CPU emulator in an emulated OS on my PowerPC Mac with MacOS 10.4.

I occasionally use an EDT editor clone based on the VAX/VMS editor from the 80's. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (msieweke) Comments FrameMaker http://osnews.com/thread?369754 http://osnews.com/thread?369754 FrameMaker 5.5. It works on Irix and I use it everyday. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (twm_bucket) Comments Master of Magic http://osnews.com/thread?369755 http://osnews.com/thread?369755 best strategy game ever, '95, running in dosbox. Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (soulrebel123) Comments Comment by Spinfusor http://osnews.com/thread?369756 http://osnews.com/thread?369756 The oldest non-game software I use at home is Maya 8 (2006). At work, I use Dreamweaver 4 and Photoshop 6 (both 2000).

As for old games, I still play the Windows Entertainment Pack version of Tetris (1990). Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Spinfusor) Comments X-Com: Apocalypse http://osnews.com/thread?369757 http://osnews.com/thread?369757 I play this game almost every year start to finish. my cousin bought it new and i still have the copy he made for me well over a decade later.

best game ever!

Dos with a win 95 installer, needed a few patches for xp. needs even more now that i don't have windows.

it beats 1&2 for the sole reason that it had real time and was more visually appealing to me back then. tense soundtrack too. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stabbyjones) Comments RE: dictionnary http://osnews.com/thread?369759 http://osnews.com/thread?369759 +1, it was great Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Elv13) Comments RE: nedit http://osnews.com/thread?369762 http://osnews.com/thread?369762 I had never heard of NEdit, but Vim/GVim's macros are implemented by recording (q) into a copy buffer and playing back (@) the contents of a copy buffer. You could do the type of macro you describe by using a regexp search (/) or single character search (f) depending on the situation. Of course, Vim's commands take some time to learn and if you are comfortable with NEdit there is probably no compelling reason to switch to a different text editor. (And, to be balanced, I would be surprised if Emacs lacked such a simple feature as recording macros.) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (AnyoneEB) Comments RE[2]: Comment by BiPolar http://osnews.com/thread?369767 http://osnews.com/thread?369767 If you install the latest Winamp but don't install any of the useless extra plugins you basically get the same thing. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FreakyT) Comments RE[3]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369768 http://osnews.com/thread?369768
I really feel sorry for all of the users out there who have not discovered the glory of the One True Editor.


Amen, vi(m) is awesome. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments RE[2]: Still have the old games http://osnews.com/thread?369769 http://osnews.com/thread?369769 Forgot to mention Doom3, Age of Empires 1&2, Age of Mythology, Medal of Honor, Battlefield 1942, The Need for Speed series (awesome games imho). I still have the Nintendo console (the one with Mario Brothers, Galaxy and Battle Stations, anyone remember that) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vikramsharma) Comments RE[4]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369771 http://osnews.com/thread?369771 nano is the One True Editor... Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE: Let me think .. http://osnews.com/thread?369773 http://osnews.com/thread?369773 Ohh.. still using R14 ;)

IMHO the best Autocad I've ever used ;)

EDIT: A little bit of mouse is okay. Like l[space]int[space][mouse click]end[mouse click][space] - the faster way to draw from intersection of to end point of ;) Edited 2009-06-23 02:14 UTC Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE: For my personal computer, games http://osnews.com/thread?369774 http://osnews.com/thread?369774
For my desktop/laptop I don't have to deal with legacy code for work (unless you count scientific software written in Fortran, which are still maintained),


Yes some of the scientific code written in Fortran is of ancient origin.

I use GAMESS no not something you play but General Molecular Electronic Structure System a quantum mechanical program. From the manual:

GAMESS was put together from several existing quantum chemistry programs, particularly HONDO, by the staff of the National Resources for Computations in Chemistry. The NRCC project (1 Oct 77 to 30 Sep 81) was funded by NSF and DOE, and was limited to the field of chemistry. The NRCC staff added new capabilities to GAMESS as well. Besides providing public access to the code on the CDC 7600 at the
site of the NRCC (the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory), the NRCC made copies of the program source code (for a VAX) available to users at other sites.

It has grown and developed over the years with all the newfangled QM stuff included like DFT (Desnsity Functional Theory) but it is still at core a thirty year old program. You can get binary versions but I painstakingly compiled mine from the source code on Ubuntu Hardy. One of the reasons I stick with LTS, I don't have to rebuild it again. Anyway that's my personal computer game. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (chemical_scum) Comments RE[3]: Comment by BiPolar http://osnews.com/thread?369775 http://osnews.com/thread?369775
If you install the latest Winamp but don't install any of the useless extra plugins you basically get the same thing.

Exactly... while getting all the latest bug/security fixes. There's very few programs I use "old versions" of, but there are a lot of programs that are old and I *would* still use. Would being the key word here... they're mostly for Windows, and since I made the decision to switch to Linux a couple years ago, I no longer am able to use them. Sure, there's Wine, but it seems to add some additional overhead (with only 256MB RAM) and some programs (Winamp included) don't run flawlessly in it last time I checked.

That said, I still have a directory with all the Windows programs I always liked, if only for nostalgia and in case I ever want to use them again. One standout program which hasn't been updated in a while is Metapad, an excellent Windows text editor, similar to Notepad with its interface and speed. Metapad development has stalled over the last few years, but its source code was recently put out under the GPL. Hopefully that paves the way for continued development/forks.

When it comes to old, unsupported proprietary software... various classic DOS games (with the help of DOSBox) and paid download copies of PerfectDisk 6 and Paint Shop Pro 8 are all that comes to mind. And considering there are alternatives to PSP (The GIMP) and defragmenting is really not that necessary outside of Windows, I don't even use those to programs any more. It's not like PerfectDisk would work outside of Windows anyway. ;) I do use xfs_fsr on my XFS-based drives to defrag every once in a while, though. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (UZ64) Comments Big list... http://osnews.com/thread?369778 http://osnews.com/thread?369778 Let's see...

1. Visual C++ 6 (uses MSVCRT.DLL, enabling small/compact apps that don't require install)
2. Windows 2000 (relatively fast, clear/professional UI)
3. Quake 3
4. Gimp 1.2.5 (GTK 1 is cleaner/faster than what followed, and Gimp was functional enough back then)
5. Acrobat 5.x (Huge plugin loadtime in 6.x, "Do you want Javascript with that?" in 7.x...you have to wonder)
6. Office 2003 (as opposed to the UI from hell)
7. StarOffice 7 (smaller/faster, and not seeing good reasons to upgrade)
8. FVWM (no new releases because it's already perfect)
9. Half Life 1 (awesome gameplay with lousy technology beats the other way every time) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (malxau) Comments 16-bit Software http://osnews.com/thread?369779 http://osnews.com/thread?369779 Bow to me. I still use Visual Basic 3.0 - yes you read that right, 3.0 - on a daily basis. Released in 1993, the last fully 16-bit VB development environment. Also we use Visual C++ 1.52 to write DLLs for VB3 code.

We use them because we have a large amount of legacy code written in VB3 and VC++1.52 and porting from 16-bit to 32-bit is prohibitively risky and expensive.

All I can say is thanks to Microsoft for continuing 16-bit emulation in even the latest versions of Windows!

http://hexadeciman.blogspot.com/ Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (timhiggison) Comments VB6 here also http://osnews.com/thread?369780 http://osnews.com/thread?369780 I cannot, and almost refuse to use .net. i prefer my "old" vb6. i use it ever. single. day. i write code just as often.

.net is NOT what it should have been. Ms made a mistake. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SoloDeveloper) Comments vb6 TABS in IDE addin http://osnews.com/thread?369781 http://osnews.com/thread?369781 Have Tabs in your vb6 ide, like firefox. see here.
http://planetsourcecode.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=62468... Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SoloDeveloper) Comments RE: 16-bit Software http://osnews.com/thread?369782 http://osnews.com/thread?369782 Unfortunately 16 bit support is reaching the end of the road. XP 64 bit edition dropped support for 16 bit apps; support for 16 bit apps only exists in Vista/Win7 32-bit editions. Note that there is no 32-bit version of Win7 server.

As PCs approach (and exceed) the 4Gb barrier, more OEMs will move to 64-bit editions, and 16 bit support will end with a slow transition.

Unless working in a virtualized environment is suitable for you, 16-bit support is not a good long term choice. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (malxau) Comments RE[2]: For my personal computer, games http://osnews.com/thread?369783 http://osnews.com/thread?369783 I work in physics, and use Gentoo. This has a few benefits:

* Many of the oldest, largest and most difficult to maintain math and physics packages (e.g., BLAS, PAW) are already in the main ebuild repository.

* If binary inconsistencies develop due to system updates, (usually) it's just a matter of doing a "revdep-rebuild" to reinstall affected packages.

* It's easy to maintain my own software by writing ebuilds and placing them in a local repository.

GAMESS is also in the main Gentoo repository. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hypnos) Comments RE[5]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369793 http://osnews.com/thread?369793 You mean Notepad++ don't you? Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (IvoLimmen) Comments RE[4]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369794 http://osnews.com/thread?369794
"Except it takes forever to learn"

(aww c'mon no mention of emacs is complete without vi)


I remember when I loaded up emacs for the first time - I couldn't even find a way to exit it was that scary. After my brief exposure I quickly ran back to vi and remained there to this day; when I am in my university lectures I use vi for my note taking; small, reliable and functional - without all the usual fluff that comes with the typical note taking tool. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kaiwai) Comments The ancient-but-reliable "sc" spreadsheet http://osnews.com/thread?369795 http://osnews.com/thread?369795 Good old "sc" - one of my public-domain favourites!

I have a real soft spot for **really old** apps like this. There's humour in the "readme" too - have a look at the "guarantee" -
*********************
Guarantee:

Since some people are wary of using a program that has no guarantee, I've decided to provide the following guarantee:

It is a well-known fact that any non-trivial program has bugs. If you haven't found them, you just haven't stumbled upon the proper combinations of actions that will cause the bugs to manifest themselves. Since sc stands for "Spreadsheet Calculator", and since a
spreadsheet calculator is by definition a non-trivial program, sc is guaranteed to have bugs.
****************************
... ;) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (obsidian) Comments Comment by christian paratschek http://osnews.com/thread?369797 http://osnews.com/thread?369797 Diablo II

Still, for me the best game ever made.

Hardcore mode (meaning that your character has just one life and if he ever dies, he'll be gone and you'll have to start a whole new character) is the most challenging thing I have ever seen in a computer game. You'll play a char for months and then you'll make one single mistake and that's it - he's dead.

Beats WOW any day! Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (christian paratschek) Comments RE[2]: PSP http://osnews.com/thread?369798 http://osnews.com/thread?369798 PSP6 - yep, me too.

Quick, works like a charm, does everything I need.

Got PSP9, but its a dog.

Mac Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Cutterman) Comments RE[4]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369799 http://osnews.com/thread?369799 I'm glad to see all the "improvements" over the last years in vi are hidden well enough to not get into my way. Using vi the same way I did in 1995.

Then, there's FileMaker for the Mac. Version 3 did everything needed, newer versions make things just more complicated. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Traumflug) Comments RE[3]: Sheep Screenmate (POO) http://osnews.com/thread?369806 http://osnews.com/thread?369806 Ohh yes, Johnny Castaway was simply the best screensaver! Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Glynser) Comments RE: Brief http://osnews.com/thread?369812 http://osnews.com/thread?369812 That’s Microsoft for you. I believe they virtualize DOS though. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dragossh) Comments RE: Still have the old games http://osnews.com/thread?369817 http://osnews.com/thread?369817 As for games, I still enjoy SimCity 2000 (1993, first game I bought with my own money). But I prefer SimCity 4 nowadays.
But in my hearth, nothing will replace Monkey Island and the other wonderful LucasArts adventures :-) Not even the remakes recently announced. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (biffuz) Comments RE[3]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?369829 http://osnews.com/thread?369829 I really feel sorry for all of the users out there who have not discovered the glory of the user interface. Not only do they waste their time memorizing a different set of shortcuts for every task that needs a dedicated and properly designed application, they're not even aware that one size does not fit all.

As a common-sense-haver, a conversation like this is pointless, since I use applications for just about everything. Whenever I want to do something new, chances are that my package manager has it, and since I already know how to press buttons and hate learning dozens of obscure shortcuts - which research proves to be slower - getting an app is just an apt-get away.

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gbanfalvi) Comments RE[2]: 16-bit Software http://osnews.com/thread?369831 http://osnews.com/thread?369831 Believe me, I couldn't agree with you more. Considering 90% of our customer base (mechanics and car dealerships worldwide) are using Windows 95/98/2K and have no reason or want to upgrade, I think we'll be safe for a while.

Sometimes it's hard to remember that the whole world isn't on the cutting edge like us programmers :-) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (timhiggison) Comments RE: Windows 95? http://osnews.com/thread?369832 http://osnews.com/thread?369832 I was using NT4 at home til switching to Slackware about 4 years ago. On modern(ish) hardware it went like the proverbial off a shovel. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (B12 Simon) Comments Homesite+ http://osnews.com/thread?369833 http://osnews.com/thread?369833 Eclipse for Java, Homesite+ for the web stuff. It's still the best HTML editor on Windows. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (B12 Simon) Comments Old Software http://osnews.com/thread?369843 http://osnews.com/thread?369843 I still Use:

Windows XP
Winamp 2.95
Paint Shop Pro 4.x (from 1997, renamed to paint.exe ;) )
Delphi 7 Pro
Hex Workshop 3.1 (~1997) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bazmail) Comments My 2 old-school software's http://osnews.com/thread?369862 http://osnews.com/thread?369862 Passkeeper (Still the same version that I was using back in Win98, that worked in WinME, Win2k, WinXP, and now, Vista. Also runs with no problem at all in WINE)

WS FTP (Well, for me, this is THE ftp client) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thavid) Comments My Favorite Oldies http://osnews.com/thread?369863 http://osnews.com/thread?369863 Windows Cardfile
Design CAD PRO
Winamp 2.5
MS Office Suite 1997
Atomtime
MailWasherFree
Norton Utilities Suite 2003
especially Norton Ghost 2003
Kerio
Partition Magic 4,7 & 8
MealMaster
AND a real Golden Oldie Desktop Publishing, Sign, Greeting Card, Banner, Business Card, Letterhead, etc.
Instant Artist
 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jlt2007) Comments Old Assemblers http://osnews.com/thread?369869 http://osnews.com/thread?369869 Assemblers for several old 8-bit CPUs including the 6800, 6809, 8080, Z80, 6502.
Turbo C for the occasional boot sector utility or imaging program.
Visual Basic 5 (not very different from v6).
A couple of dozen utilities I wrote many years ago. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (snickelfritz) Comments Wordstar 7 http://osnews.com/thread?369872 http://osnews.com/thread?369872 I am still using Wordstar 7d for all personal writing. These days though I have to run it in Dosbox, and created two scripts so I can still be compatible with other word processors (though oddly enough WordPerfect still will import from the Wordstar 7 format). The First script will automatically convert anything I save to rtf using the converter that comes with the application. The second script automatically takes the postscript file I print and produces a PDF. Nothing elegant or exciting, but I've been using it for so many years now I don't see the point in switching. Writing is still writing, and other than layout features I don't see anything special about any newer word processors. One thing most people don't know is that writers aren't supposed to do layout, so a lot off those fancy new features in Word are useless if you aren't making fliers or company newsletters. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (iarann) Comments Comment by filip007 http://osnews.com/thread?369873 http://osnews.com/thread?369873 What old software...maybe some games?

I had Pentium II 400MHz with 64MB at lest, 32MB was for P1... Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (filip007) Comments XFree-3.3.6 http://osnews.com/thread?369874 http://osnews.com/thread?369874 My IBM ThinkPad 755CD [Pentium I 75MHz, 40MB RAM, 2GB HD] runs FreeBSD-4.9 and XFree-3.3.6 quite well. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (petrasl) Comments x2x http://osnews.com/thread?369878 http://osnews.com/thread?369878 It looks like there has been some activity in recent years, but I always found x2x a very nice example of a tool that does one thing and does it well - and of the flexibility of the X architecture.

ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/DEC/SRC/x2x/ Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (raboof) Comments RE: Photoshop 7.0 http://osnews.com/thread?369883 http://osnews.com/thread?369883 Same here, along with its stablemates Illustrator 10 and InDesign 2.0.

Norton Commander for Windows 95 (believe it or not, most features still work on a NTFS drive under XP)

PC/Geos

Norton SystemWorks 2002. Though I've got 2005 as well.

Roxio's 5.0 suite, though I've got 8.0 as well.

Basically when I get a newer version of an app, the older one get a new lease on life on my older, 128MB RAM, AMD K6-II 400MHz enhanced Socket 7 system. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (RavinRay) Comments RE: Starcraft http://osnews.com/thread?369891 http://osnews.com/thread?369891 When a game is this old and people still play it it should tell you something. Starcraft and UT99 all the time here. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MamiyaOtaru) Comments i have http://osnews.com/thread?369899 http://osnews.com/thread?369899 clarisworks Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Mellin) Comments Red Alert 2 http://osnews.com/thread?369910 http://osnews.com/thread?369910 I'm still enjoying this game. Heck, I even love the version prior to Yuri's Revenge ;) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (qroon) Comments RE: Let me see... http://osnews.com/thread?369914 http://osnews.com/thread?369914 If you liked Delphi (back in time I was also using version 4, then 5 up to 2001), then you should try FPC (Free Pascal) + Lazarus IDE. It's in many ways even better (better licensing; free as a beer; a lot of components and code-base as it's very compatible with Delphi). You can also produce MS Windows, GNU Linux, FreeBSD (and more in fact) versions of your apps at the same time, because FPC/Lazarus is using "write once, compile anywhere" methodology. And one thing you can be sure - it's far more attractive than commercial Kylix was a few years ago, at least for GNU/Linux and MS Windows development. Try this:

http://lazarus.freepascal.org/

Moreover, it's definitely better option than Visual Basic 6 today, at least IMHO :-) And - what is sometimes very important - you can produce native code for given OS, not bytecode for anykind of virtual machine. For desktop applications it seems to be much better choice than Java, C# or VB.NET in many cases. Of course, it depends, but FPC/Lazaurs is still worth a try.

Personally, I like it. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wawrzyn) Comments I'm using my Atari STe and Falcon 030 still http://osnews.com/thread?369916 http://osnews.com/thread?369916 I'm still using my Atari STe for some fun and playing games... I'm using Atari Falcon 030 for the same purposes also. More rarely, but I'm also connecting my Atari 65XE or Commodore 64 (inherited from my wife, as it was her machine during childhood) to our TV-set to have some fun. Right now, it seems that this Commodore 64 would be the first machine of our son :-) So, it will be used as long, as possible. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wawrzyn) Comments RE[2]: Comment by BiPolar http://osnews.com/thread?369925 http://osnews.com/thread?369925
Oh yes the last good clean fast audio focused no bullshit Winamp.

Heh, the only good winamp was Winamp3 IMHO
2.x/5.x - unusable trash IMHO ^_^

foobar2k FTW!Edited 2009-06-23 19:08 UTC Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (viton) Comments FMTAP http://osnews.com/thread?369940 http://osnews.com/thread?369940 This is a graphical manipulation program for an OTDR (fiber optic cable tester). It is a DOS program which still uses the .cff file extension. It forces me to use a DOS emulator every time I upgrade. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sam Shazaam) Comments Old Software http://osnews.com/thread?369970 http://osnews.com/thread?369970 Quake 3 (and Team Arena)

fireworks 2, I have mx also but they are a few features they removed in later versions that I love, especially on image exporting

software I wrote for myself, years old but custom made for me ;)

old version of ws-ftp, old version of startup cop, Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ralphcarlsonjr) Comments Good soft does not age http://osnews.com/thread?369984 http://osnews.com/thread?369984 It is not getting better, like wine, but it does not age as fast. TeX is a good example.

I still use Windows XP, Visual C++ 6.0, Office 2003. This is because I do not like newer versions. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vtolkov) Comments RE[3]: Comment by BiPolar http://osnews.com/thread?370019 http://osnews.com/thread?370019 Winamp3 was horribly slow and the skins were 99% hideous.

I always thought it had potential, tho, and was surprised when they ditched it. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moochman) Comments RE: Day of the tentacle http://osnews.com/thread?370021 http://osnews.com/thread?370021
Every year or so I spend a few nights playing the classical Lucas Arts game, such as Day of the Tentacle, Pirate of the Carribean, etc.


I take it that by "Pirate of the Carribean" you mean the Monkey Island games.

I'm a big fan of them myself. Getting excited about the new MI games coming up:

http://www.worldofmi.com/

and the remake of MI one LucasArts is putting out:
http://www.lucasarts.com/games/monkeyisland/Edited 2009-06-24 09:45 UTC Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moochman) Comments RE[2]: Day of the tentacle http://osnews.com/thread?370025 http://osnews.com/thread?370025 Of course so silly of me. Mea culpa.Edited 2009-06-24 10:26 UTC Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Jonix) Comments Homesite + W2K, couldn´t live without them http://osnews.com/thread?370033 http://osnews.com/thread?370033 Home:
W2k
Winamp 2.91
Real Audio Player alternative 1.90
Quicktime alternative XX?
Windows Media Player 6.4 or Media Player Classic 6.4
Irfan View 3.97

I´m using Winamp for 10 years now. I would never install Quicktime on one of my computers. Altough I´ve seen people that use Quicktime like I am using Winamp. The only reason why I do have Quicktime alternative is, that my Olympus Camera makes Quicktime movies.

Office:
Homesite 5.2
Adobe Acrobat 5.0
Nero 6
Dreamweaver 6
Partition Magic 8
Drive Image 5
U-Lead Gif Animator 5.05
Photo Shop 7
Photo Impact 11 (would also work with 7/8)

I´m using Homesite for 10 years now. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mk@tuco.de) Comments Comment by ml2mst http://osnews.com/thread?370037 http://osnews.com/thread?370037 - WordPerfect 5.1 NL (DOSemu Linux);
- dBASE IV (DOSemu Linux);
- Windows 98SE (native);
- DOOM (all versions Windows 98SE DOS-mode);
- Redneck Rampage series (Win98SE DOS-mode);
- BLOOD;
- Xara Webstyle 2 (Windows 98SE);
- Xara 3D3 (Windows 98SE)
- ModplugTracker (Windows XP SP3 VirtualBox 2 Linux);
- Demomaker (UAE Linux);
- many Amiga games (UAE Linux);
- many MSX games (fMSX-DOS DOSemu Linux);
- EleBBS (RemoteAcces 2.x clone) Linux;
- Ken's Labyrinth (Linux);
- System 7.5 (Basilisk II Linux).

No problems. Tried Xara Webstyle2 and 3D3 under Wine but for some odd reason this doesn't work too well.

Fortunately I still had an old piece of junk (Cyrix MII CPU, 300 Mhz, 64 MiB EDO-RAM) on which I installed a dualboot Debian Lenny and Win98SE. The Xara stuff runs well on that one ;-)Edited 2009-06-24 12:56 UTC Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ml2mst) Comments Old software http://osnews.com/thread?370040 http://osnews.com/thread?370040 I still use:
- GrafX2 http://code.google.com/p/grafx2/
- Open Cubic Player http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Cubic_Player
- nethack http://www.nethack.org/
- GNUstep http://www.gnustep.org/
- Bub'n'Bros http://bub-n-bros.sf.net/ Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Gurkan) Comments in work I have to use... http://osnews.com/thread?370106 http://osnews.com/thread?370106 Theres some relatively recent "old" stuff:
XP/Office 2003, due to none of the customers liking Vista and Office 2007 having very poor Access MDB support
VB6 for working on stuff related to the Access "application" I have to support


Then theres the ancient stuff:
VB3 for working on an even older application thats still in the wild.
Access 2.0 for database work on said application.

Other half of the company have to work with/on a collection of DOS apps dating to 1987 at core and a set of "interesting" Windows GUI frontends to same.

We're screwed when customer start using x64 systems. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MYOB) Comments What I use http://osnews.com/thread?370237 http://osnews.com/thread?370237 Amiga OS3. Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tonyyeb) Comments RE[4]: UNIX APP http://osnews.com/thread?370274 http://osnews.com/thread?370274 I don't think you get it. Emacs is Unix to next level, a unified shell interface to all those command line tools you can combine with pipes. With Emacs you can interactively combine them, following grep to the source files, moving or renaming a bunch of files, etc, all of this by means of Unix traditional tool suite.

When you oppose Emacs to user interface, you're simply showing you don't know Emacs enough to be saying your own way of using software is better: you don't have the keys to understand what Emacs is, it seems. Which is fine, but please, don't pretend you do.

Emacs is a platform hosting applications which share a user interface optimized to interact with text content. Amongst other things, of course. Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tapoueh) Comments RE[2]: 16-bit Software http://osnews.com/thread?370451 http://osnews.com/thread?370451 Luckily in Windows 7, there is the 'seamless' Windows XP which can run win16 stuff..

I still use.... QuickC for Windows..

Becuase it's got a good help system, and it's SMALL, only 4 1.44 MB floppies!

I just wish the debugger ran properly, but for that I end up with Virtual PC, MS-DOS 5, Windows 3.0 .... Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (neozeed) Comments More then I probably should http://osnews.com/thread?370468 http://osnews.com/thread?370468 I paid a small fortune for WORD 2.0 back in the day, and yeah I still use it. Screw all the 'progress' Word 2 is what most people use as far as core functionality.

Oh and as I mentioned somewhere else, QuickC for windows. The debugger doesn't work right but it's got great C documentation, and is great for me to bang out small stuff, test blocks of code etc.. And it's on 4 floppies!

I also still run my NeXT cube with nextstep, but I mostly use it to IRC, and testing crap for endianess & whatnot. Oh sure there is faster stuff, but if it runs "ok" on a 25Mhz 68040 it can't be that bad.

And for 'fun' I do run 4.3 BSD on SIMH's VAX 11/780 emulator...

I also LOVE Watcom 10 & 11's stack unwinding, to watch things crash out... Not to mention for building MS-DOS & Win32s exe's that'll run on dammed near everything.

Heck even Windows 7 will still run Win32s bound exe's, just no MS-DOS stuff without something like VirtualPC/DOSBox.

I've just got to figure out why the old Exchange 4 MS-DOS client won't talk to the Exchange 2003 server.. It was faster then any windows client, and ran great in a VM... Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (neozeed) Comments RE: Good soft does not age http://osnews.com/thread?370625 http://osnews.com/thread?370625 I can't believe nobody mentioned TeX sooner... Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sanders) Comments