OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/22456/Judge_Norwegian_ISP_Does_Not_Have_to_Block_The_Pirate_Bay Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:06:10 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com As it should be. http://www.osnews.com/thread?393376 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393376 If they have a problem with Pirate Bay they should go after Pirate Bay and not the ISP who has a duty (IMO) to have open access to everything on the "web." Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments Comment by GhePeU http://www.osnews.com/thread?393394 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393394 this is the industry whose only new business model in the past decades has been Sue Like Crazy™.

Not true. They also invented "pay lawmakers to regularly increase duration of copyright protection." Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (GhePeU) Comments Comment by sbenitezb http://www.osnews.com/thread?393397 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393397 At first glance I read The International Federation of the Pornographic Industry. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (sbenitezb) Comments Comment by big_gie http://www.osnews.com/thread?393400 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393400 Would it be reasonable to sue a city which provides the road to a building which some says contains an illegal business?
Who's doing something wrong? The city or the business? Should the workers who built the road be held responsible too for something they don't have control on? Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (big_gie) Comments RE: Comment by big_gie http://www.osnews.com/thread?393416 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393416 Your logic fails in that the city was not upholding the laws that made the act going on in that building illegal, and yes, they can be sued in order to compel them to uphold the laws.
I would not have a problem if the site was a pay-per-view site, however this smut industry knows that it is addicting and have in the past targeted children by taking addresses that are misspelled by children trying to get to kid sites. That is just evil. And they haven't done much to try to police themselves of sites with child porn and bestiality. If they were all shut down, our planet would be a better place. But that is just my opinion, and right now I have the right to have it! ;)

www.livingfortruth.wordpress.com Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Nolongeraclone) Comments RE: Comment by sbenitezb http://www.osnews.com/thread?393421 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393421
At first glance I read The International Federation of the Pornographic Industry.


Glad I'm not the only one who did that. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shykid) Comments Sounds like frivolous litigation to me. http://www.osnews.com/thread?393426 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393426 Seriously, what kind of legal reasoning did this federation use to arrive at the conclusion they could win such a lawsuit?

IANAL, but in the states, I'm pretty sure such a lawsuit would be laughed out of court and have "frivolous litigation" written all over it.Edited 2009-11-07 19:27 UTC Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shykid) Comments The Real Lack of Common Sense http://www.osnews.com/thread?393431 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393431 The real lack of common sense is in the actual ability of an ISP to block access to a website. An HTTP proxy, or something like Tor is next to trivial to setup, even for not-terribly-savvy computer users.

I cannot think of a way any ISP can easily block access to an individual website, while still allowing general access to the Internet that cannot be easily circumvented.

And even if they did, or could, so what? How many other public torrent trackers are there? Do they seriously think that blocking access to one will slow the flow of torrents one iota?

Once again, we have the problem of people and organizations ignorant of technology trying to use/implement the legal system around it. Legislators don't understand, lawyers don't understand, and judges don't understand; I despair that we can never hope to have reasonable laws regarding techology, copyright, and freedom of speech. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rexstuff) Comments RE: Comment by sbenitezb http://www.osnews.com/thread?393440 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393440 LOL! I did too. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments RE: Comment by big_gie http://www.osnews.com/thread?393441 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393441 I agree. And more to the point, the road was ALREADY THERE when the building housing persons performing illegal actions was built after the fact. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments Comment by Luminair http://www.osnews.com/thread?393459 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393459 PS: IMHO I would sooner see another bit of OS news on the front page, this story is on every regular tech siteEdited 2009-11-08 03:59 UTC Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Luminair) Comments From the US... http://www.osnews.com/thread?393467 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393467 Congratulations to all those other countries whose governments still have at least some common sense and decency. Good job, Telenor and Norway. Stick to your rights. Too bad it seems my own country is always in favor of throwing them out every chance these big companies get. And they almost always get their way.Edited 2009-11-08 06:08 UTC Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (UltraZelda64) Comments RE: Comment by sbenitezb http://www.osnews.com/thread?393468 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393468 PHEW! I'm not the only one :p Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Quake) Comments the Pirate Bay sucks ... But IFPI is even worse. :-) http://www.osnews.com/thread?393488 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393488 Not that I care much for The Pirate Bay, (who has made the IFPI and others so pissed off they are likely to get governments even another reason for introducing more strict copyright-fascism, like in the recent ACTA laws and the three-strikes-and-your-off-the-net). But it would be ridiculous if the IFPI won this case. Telenor supplies the tubes.. They cant be put as a watchdog to the content of them .. Except in the case of the child porn filter that KRIPOS supplies in Norway. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bugjacobs) Comments RE: Comment by sbenitezb http://www.osnews.com/thread?393497 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393497 +1 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kristianhk) Comments RE: The Real Lack of Common Sense http://www.osnews.com/thread?393499 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393499
I cannot think of a way any ISP can easily block access to an individual website, while still allowing general access to the Internet that cannot be easily circumvented.

And even if they did, or could, so what? How many other public torrent trackers are there? Do they seriously think that blocking access to one will slow the flow of torrents one iota?


You're right, there's nothing they can do to stop torrents, or piracy in general. This is the same reason why the content providers will never be able to come up with a business model that competes with piracy. No matter how cheap they make the content, people who want to download it for $0 will continue to do so, and there's nothing that can be done about that.

And I like the pic of the shirt that says 'You wouldn't download a car...', though I'm sure most people would if they could. And they will, just as soon as technology allows them to do so. And then they'll bitch about how expensive cars are in order to justify their actions.Edited 2009-11-08 16:21 UTC Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WorknMan) Comments Finite amount of common sense http://www.osnews.com/thread?393537 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393537 There must only be a finite amount of common sense on Earth. When you see an abundance of it in some areas, as in this case, it seems to leave a vacuum in others -- like in the US, where the Obama Administration is not-so-secretly-anymore-thanks-to-the-Internet trying to turn the RIAA's and MPAA's agendas into international treaty (the aforementioned ACTA).

I truly hope the rest of the world gives Mr. O the finger on this one. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (license_2_blather) Comments RE: Comment by sbenitezb http://www.osnews.com/thread?393576 http://www.osnews.com/thread?393576 Me too!! Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (amoldan) Comments