OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/22484/Intel_AMD_Settle_All_Legal_Disputes Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 18 Jun 2013 04:47:26 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Some here will be eating crow http://www.osnews.com/thread?394298 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394298 Looks like the Chipzilla fanboys will be eating crow for now. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (adkilla) Comments Who said money cannot solve all problems ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394300 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394300 atleast for the next 5 years. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dindin) Comments RE: Who said money cannot solve all problems ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394303 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394303 I give it 3 years tops.

My guess is both will try to enter the small device market (like cell phones) and get caught up in legal battles again. The want of money caused the problems and money can only fix them for so long..... Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (robojerk) Comments Past sins... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394309 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394309 This is a drop in the bucket compared to Intel's past actions. When the original Athlons were eating the P4's lunch I was baffled why more OEM's were not jumping on them. Then when they had the mem controller on chip they were way ahead of Intel and still their market share languished. I don't think we will ever know how many back room deals and arm twistings went on. I am not delusional that AMD is a bunch of angels but this agreement deal stinks. AMD is on the ropes and desperate for cash. Intel gets to walk away from all litigation with what is really a small fine. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (griffinme) Comments RE: Past sins... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394325 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394325 memory controller on chip didn't do much against Core 2 Duo, C2D was performing better.

Core i5 and i7 are also performing better than anything AMD has right now too.

Pre Core Duo AMD had really nice performing products beating Intel in performance and price, but one thing that Intel has always had has been graceful overheating adding extra stability and less smoke when a fan dies, this likely also interested OEMs over pure performance. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mckill) Comments RE[2]: Past sins... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394330 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394330 Funny, I didn't notice the word "Core" anywhere in his post, though "When the original Athlons were eating the P4's lunch" is a pretty clear indicator of time-scale.

In any case, this seems a reasonable deal for AMD. Perhaps the settlement doesn't seem large in terms of SALES, but in terms of profits they reasonably could have made, it doesn't seem far off. Realistically, they didn't have the fab capacity to have completely turned the table on Intel, certainly not before Core/Core2 showed up.

And don't believe Intel is sweating any less over it's ever growing number of anti-trust cases. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (mutantsushi) Comments RE[2]: Past sins... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394353 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394353 First the on die memory controller came way before core class cpu's. And if amd made their way with oems and actuly earned som money mabye they could have competed better against the core class cpus.

And i have yet to see a athlon going up in smoke becus a fan died. If the whole cpu sink fell of then yes it would die the computer store i worked at sold mostly athlon t-bird systems and we did not have a singel computer returned becus the cpu went up in smoke.

If you cant attache the cpu sink so it wont fall of i dont know how you do it. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dizzey) Comments Better article http://www.osnews.com/thread?394363 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394363 After 22 blows to the groin, 55 blows to the head and numerous take downs. AMD has decided to end their fight with Intel. We asked H. Ruindz from AMD for a comment, all he had to say was "Uncle!" Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cjcox) Comments Not to be negative...but what the hell... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394386 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394386 I'd like to think that this is only a drop in the ocean for all the damage that Intel has done to poor old AMD. I mean, it wasn't until the last 8 or so years that you could walk into a store and buy a computer that had an AMD chip in it. I remember what a big deal it was when places like Walmart and Best Buy started carrying the first "budget" low end PC's that had AMD chips in them. They had to claw and beg their way into Gateway and Dell and the like.

I'm sure AMD was just hurting for money at the moment, but at least this means an admission of guilt on Intel's side. If only Microsoft would admit to their competition that they pulled the same underhanded OEM tactics. Oh wait...Microsoft has no competition... Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Flecko) Comments RE: Not to be negative...but what the hell... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394387 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394387 Oh, wait, that "oh, wait" trick is lame. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (drstorm) Comments RE: Not to be negative...but what the hell... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394397 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394397
I'm sure AMD was just hurting for money at the moment, but at least this means an admission of guilt on Intel's side. If only Microsoft would admit to their competition that they pulled the same underhanded OEM tactics. Oh wait...Microsoft has no competition...


How old are you? High school? College? Microsoft signed a consent decree with the Department of Justice in 1994 to end the practice of per-processing licensing; where, the company tied the price of the operating system to every processor sold by that OEM, which made it difficult or impossible for competitors to ship their offerings on those same machines (since the OEM was paying Microsoft, regardless). How much more of an "admission of guilt" would you like?Edited 2009-11-13 01:16 UTC Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tomcat) Comments x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?394406 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394406 This seems to be an attempt at unifying the producers of x86's so that the ARM cannot take over the roost as top performing processor. ARM is a much smaller core in terms of the numbers of transistors and could fit more cores per die if they had the latest in production technology.

Personally I think the only thing floating x86's boat is Windows. The core is overbloated with years of backward compatibility.

MacOSX is not bound to a hardware platform in that they can port theirs to any processor they want, as has been demonstrated when they came out with iPhone and iPod Touch. Linux has the ARM platform all but sewn up also and only the desktop Linux models still run x86 for the most part.

Maybe nVidia is thinking the right way by not making an x86. If they use their fabs to produce a successor to the Cortex A9 ARM chips, they could shift the balance against Intel and Windows both by allowing Mac and Linux to jump ship from x86. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments RE: x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?394427 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394427 Despite my well-performing (!) AMD stocks, that's a sight I'd be excited to see. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Dryhte) Comments RE: x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?394428 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394428 nonsense- windows isnt really bound to its hardware any more or less than osx. apple chose to maintain its platform on several architectures just like windows ran on dec alpha, mips, itanium and powerpc. its a matter of choice.

/stoneEdited 2009-11-13 08:23 UTC Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (stone) Comments RE: x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?394434 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394434 FYI: nVidia, much like ARM, have no manufacturing facilities. They are purely design companies.
That is why you have TI, Qualcomm, Samsung, Apple and a bunch of others licensing/manufacturing ARM chips. And you can't buy an nVidia nVidia GeForce 280, but something like (MSI,PoV) nVidia Geforce 280. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JAlexoid) Comments RE[2]: x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?394458 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394458 So where are all the non-x86 Windows apps? Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Johann Chua) Comments RE[2]: x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?394460 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394460 Its got a lot more to do with the apps actually. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (adkilla) Comments RE[2]: Past sins... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394596 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394596 'Cause you know, AMD totally did not have an on-chip sensor, and had no method of protection that would keep the chip from frying itself. And I totally did NOT find out that it worked the hard way, with a Shuttle AK35GT2, by applying Arctic Silver to the plastic sheet protecting the bottom of a brand new SK-7 heatsink. No sirree, didn't happen (ironically, that was why I got an Athlon XP in the first place, having negligently fried my old Duron, and managed then to test it out before my first successful POST ;) ).Edited 2009-11-14 06:51 UTC Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cerbie) Comments RE: x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?394598 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394598 40nm seems awfully close to the latest, to me. I'm itching for 4-way A9-based notebooks w/ good X support (when you can't swap out the video chip, X support kills old x86 hardware's usefulness). Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cerbie) Comments Early April Fools http://www.osnews.com/thread?394640 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394640 So is this an early April Fools day joke..... Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pacmanlives) Comments RE[3]: Past sins... http://www.osnews.com/thread?394711 http://www.osnews.com/thread?394711 So what yor saying is that you

1 did not do your homework and bougth a motherboard without a heat sensor.
(our shop did it's homework and only sold boards with a sensor underneath the cpu)

2 did not follow simple instuctions on how to mount the cpu cooler

And the result was that you fried your computer and now somehow it's amds fault. Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dizzey) Comments RE[2]: x86 Everywhere? http://www.osnews.com/thread?395007 http://www.osnews.com/thread?395007
FYI: nVidia, much like ARM, have no manufacturing facilities.


True, but since ATI spun off its wafer fabrication as a separate company they could have made things very difficult for Intel if they sided with nVidia on the processor market.

Re: 40 nM processes, I think Intel's down to about 35 nM processes or smaller by now. It's close but may not be close enough. Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SamuraiCrow) Comments