OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/23753/Commodore_Gets_Rights_to_Amiga_Hyperion_Takes_Legal_Action Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 23 May 2013 11:43:16 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Comment by Kasi http://www.osnews.com/thread?438930 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438930 Amiga is becoming the Lindsey Lohan of IT - when it shows up in the news you know its going to be scandelous and mostly trashy but you can't help be read it while waiting to check out at the grocery store. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kasi) Comments Really? Really?! http://www.osnews.com/thread?438936 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438936 This is worse than day-time TV. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bryanv) Comments Do these companies make money? http://www.osnews.com/thread?438937 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438937 How big is the Amiga market? It is hard for me to imagine how any of these companies can generate enough revenue to even afford to sue each other. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (miker) Comments AmigaOne X1000. Coming late 2010. http://www.osnews.com/thread?438939 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438939 Yes, thats what it says now over at the A-EON web site. So it is still time for this story to end in... nothing but hot air. Again. I really wish it wasn't so. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tingo) Comments Eek, Eek http://www.osnews.com/thread?438942 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438942 Talk about rats fighting over a piece of cheese... Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fretinator) Comments Comment by viton http://www.osnews.com/thread?438944 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438944 Time to buy some popcorn for several years of upcoming legal war =) Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (viton) Comments RE: Do these companies make money? http://www.osnews.com/thread?438949 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438949 "How big is the Amiga market? It is hard for me to imagine how any of these companies can generate enough revenue to even afford to sue each other."

The Amiga community is probably in the range of 15,000 - 20,000. The OS4 market is in the range of 1,000 - 1,500. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jsutton) Comments OS4 hardly the "real deal" http://www.osnews.com/thread?438950 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438950 In the article the author refers to OS4 as the real deal. This is hardly the case. OS4 is no more the real AmigaOS than AROS or MorphOS. They are all equally legitimate, the only difference being that one managed to secure license to use the name through techniques not unlike what CommodoreUSA is using today. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jsutton) Comments You know what they say... http://www.osnews.com/thread?438952 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438952 Lies, damn lies, and Commodore USA's claims. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Almafeta) Comments What was the settlement agreement? http://www.osnews.com/thread?438953 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438953 How accurate is the report linked to regarding the Hyperion and Amiga Inc. settlement agreement?

I asked because I just reread that older story and it appears from that that Hyperion have the exclusive rights to version 3.1, 4 and 5 of the Amiga OS and putting that on any hardware platform.

They also appear to have the rights to use the "AmigaOS" brand and the bouncing ball logo.

There is no mention in that story of the "Amiga" brand. So did they agree the exclusive rights to that or not? Sounds like (unless theres been some misreporting on the Hyperion agreement, or I've mis-read something (likely)) that Hyperion have made a big mistake and Commodore have beaten them to the punch!

Still these stories are better than watching Eastenders, and are more entertaining than who Apple/Microsoft/Google are sueing/being sued by this week. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tmcd35) Comments RE: What was the settlement agreement? http://www.osnews.com/thread?438955 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438955
Still these stories are better than watching Eastenders


Frankly, anything is better than watching Eastenders. ;)

It does seem terribly sad that whenever there is a breakthrough in the Amiga world, there is always a lawyer waiting on the other side.

A bit like Easterders really - whenever anything good seems about to happen, somebody gets murdered/cheated on/swindled/slapped by Peggy/whatever! Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sparrowhawk) Comments bunch of con artists getting bed with other con artists http://www.osnews.com/thread?438961 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438961 ok. so what we have here is some character in florida running a furniture company out his house. he contracts with chinese manufacturers to stick his label on them, print cardboard boxes with his logo, and voila.

and now he's using the same playbook with 'commodore USA' calling himself a CEO and taking chinese OEM PCs, sticking a label on them, and calling them commodores. oh, and taking trademarks and graphics from people without their permission -- presumably so they can contact him later. if they care. because he doesn't. he's conned some poor schmo from australia who is a regular on one of the amiga enthusiast boards to be his 'CTO' after the guy kept emailing him. and the poor guy actually thinks he's part of something legit.

bill mcewen must be desperate for money. i can't imagine that even he would get in bed with an operation like this. and that's assuming the 'press release' was actually truthful. which, given the history of 'commodore USA,' isn't a given.

oh, and if anyone wants to see the corporate headquarters of barry's furniture and computing empire, try this link from google maps.

yeah. CEO. return of commodore. enjoy your chinese white-box goods folks. that sticker is gonna let barry pay his mortgage this month.

-- eliyahu Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (eliyahu) Comments RE: OS4 hardly the "real deal" http://www.osnews.com/thread?438963 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438963 Amiga OS is the Real Deal. It is the legally contracted port of the Original Amiga OS. AROS is an Open Source copy and reimplementation of the Original Amiga OS and APIs. Morphos is some hacker's attempt with pirated code to rebuit Amiga OS in his image. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Cowbell) Comments RE[2]: OS4 hardly the "real deal" http://www.osnews.com/thread?438967 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438967
Morphos is some hacker's attempt with pirated code to rebuit Amiga OS in his image.

BS. What "pirated" code does Morphos have?
Morphos is entirely different from AmigaOS/AROS. It is just have Amiga compatible environment(ABOX) as one of sandboxes managed by microkernel.

ABox is an emulation sandbox featuring a PPC native AmigaOS API clone that is binary compatible with both 68k Amiga applications and both PowerUP and WarpOS formats of Amiga PPC executables. ABox is based in part on AROS Research Operating System.Edited 2010-09-01 16:30 UTC Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (viton) Comments RE: bunch of con artists getting bed with other con artists http://www.osnews.com/thread?438968 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438968 Sounds familiar... is he brother to the guys who were selling the Mac clones?Edited 2010-09-01 16:34 UTC Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments Legitimacy of CommodoreUSA http://www.osnews.com/thread?438976 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438976 They've been posting on both AmigaWorld and aros-exec, amongst others, and they say they're shipping products (and hiring amigans as staff!)

http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?start=0&topic_... Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hexadecima) Comments As far as I recall http://www.osnews.com/thread?438981 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438981 The agreement between Amiga Inc. (I think the new one, e.g. the renamed one) and Hyperion is about right to use the trademarks AmigaOS and (I believe) also AmigaOne, but definitely not Amiga itself. The agreement also gives Hyperion right to AmigaOS 3.x in order to develop AmigaOS 4.x and newer versions.

I more or less expected this to happen when the settlement was published. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE[2]: OS4 hardly the "real deal" http://www.osnews.com/thread?438982 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438982
Morphos is some hacker's attempt with pirated code to rebuit Amiga OS in his image.


Presumably you have some evidence to back up this allegation, right?

What's that, you don't?

Heh didn't think so. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (the_leander) Comments Amiga: Providing entertainment for 25 years! http://www.osnews.com/thread?438992 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438992 The old Amiga slogan seems doomed to correctness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxfrWnLI-dc Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Nicholas Blachford) Comments RE: As far as I recall - CORRECTION http://www.osnews.com/thread?438994 http://www.osnews.com/thread?438994 Hmm... what does "associated trademarks" mean? Hmm... at least the boing ball is included inthere, but does it also mean "Amiga"? Since the boing ball and "AmigaONE" are considered part of "associated trademarks" in regard to "AmigaOS", wouldn't "Amiga" be a part of that too?

Oh, I'm confused... Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE: Eek, Eek http://www.osnews.com/thread?439070 http://www.osnews.com/thread?439070 No, it's more like vultures fighting over a pile of bones. The meat already rotted away long ago. Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ferrels) Comments RE[2]: Eek, Eek http://www.osnews.com/thread?439090 http://www.osnews.com/thread?439090
No, it's more like vultures fighting over a pile of bones. The meat already rotted away long ago.


Judging by the vaste number of vultures who want to pick these bones, it should all be made of gold.

Really anytime Amiga gets enough power to rise again, there are vultures everywhere who pollution the market and spread FUD, so people are scared to buy Amiga, or are attracted by these shenaningan mermaids.

Who wants to prevent Amiga to fly again and tries always to destroy its market???

Why the name "Amiga" makes the great sisters of Information technology market to get so scared?

Why there were rich people like Pentti Kouri from Nokia who invested millions of dollars in former Amiga Inc. lead by Bill Mc. Ewen to let them produce no any real Amiga products and then let the Amiga market to fall under the survival line? Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Raffaele) Comments Aros hardware alternatives http://www.osnews.com/thread?439289 http://www.osnews.com/thread?439289 Just so all are aware there are already two Aros platforms. IMICA Silent Atom based and high performance AresOne.

http://www.vesalia.de/e_aresone2010.htm
http://www.imica.net/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (clusteruk) Comments RE[3]: Eek, Eek http://www.osnews.com/thread?439422 http://www.osnews.com/thread?439422
Who wants to prevent Amiga to fly again and tries always to destroy its market???


Who is only company who makes proprietary all-in-one computers today?

In 2007, when Amigans were looking at PA Semi's PWRficitent processors for next-gen Amiga, Apple come out of nowhere, bought PA Semi and killed the chip.

Then Intrinsity was working on another PowerPC design, and surprise surprise... Apple bought them too.

Apple really wants PowerPC dead. Or they want Amiga dead... Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gnufreex) Comments