OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/24065/Samsung_HTC_License_Massive_Patent_Portfolio Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 23 May 2013 02:25:37 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com It's MAD I tell you (in the USA only) http://www.osnews.com/thread?451032 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451032 So they've taken their 40 pieces of Silver and got into bed with a troll.

Their next step will be to sue every other mobile phone maker as well as more than a few PC makers just bo be sure.
Their targets will (as has been seen already) retaliate with their own lawsuits.
The end result will be MAD (Mutually assured destruction). The ONLY winners will be the myriad of lawyers scrambling to get on this particular gravy train.
The sure fire losers will be us poor consumers.

The sooner the USSC declares them null & void the better but there are far too many lawyers with their snouts in the trough. Remember, who makes the laws? What percentage of the lawmakers are lawyers? You do the math. Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shotsman) Comments RE: It's MAD I tell you (in the USA only) http://www.osnews.com/thread?451039 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451039
So they've taken their 40 pieces of Silver and got into bed with a troll.

Their next step will be to sue every other mobile phone maker as well as more than a few PC makers just bo be sure.
Their targets will (as has been seen already) retaliate with their own lawsuits.
The end result will be MAD (Mutually assured destruction). The ONLY winners will be the myriad of lawyers scrambling to get on this particular gravy train.
The sure fire losers will be us poor consumers.

The sooner the USSC declares them null & void the better but there are far too many lawyers with their snouts in the trough. Remember, who makes the laws? What percentage of the lawmakers are lawyers? You do the math.


How are they going to sue other manufacturers? They licensed the patents, they didn't acquire them, and IV doesn't have a history of litigation.

This is a purely defensive posture that protects them from potential litigation from the patent holders that IV represents, and a potential opportunity to counter additional third-party patent claims via the patents they now have access to. Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (elsewhere) Comments IV http://www.osnews.com/thread?451043 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451043 I'm not sure IV are so reprehensible... You say they produce knowledge also, I don't think many patent trolls do that. A non-litigeous history, coupled with the fact they don't just acquire paptents to grow fat off them, means they may actually be a legitimate "information company". I mean, put aside that the patents shouldn't exist at all in many cases...

Edit for touchscreen typing and the belief I'm infallible.Edited 2010-11-24 21:49 UTC Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moredhas) Comments Intellectual Ventures? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451050 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451050 I think they should be called Intellectual VulturesEdited 2010-11-24 22:10 UTC Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (eantoranz) Comments Comment by _txf_ http://www.osnews.com/thread?451063 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451063 Whilst I can see how some would like to brush this off as a patent troll the fact that the company actually designs things is quite a bit different to a company that buys up or patents vague concepts in order to try to cash in.

Personally I have no problem considering a innovative and technical design as an application of a patent (software/business method patents excluded unconditionally).

Nevertheless, it is sad that with deals like this just maintain the minefield upon which newcomers maul themselves on.Edited 2010-11-24 23:48 UTC Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (_txf_) Comments RE: Comment by _txf_ http://www.osnews.com/thread?451069 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451069
Nevertheless, it is sad that with deals like this just maintain the minefield upon which newcomers maul themselves on.


At the same time, this event does illustrate that patents are now effectively preventing innovation and competition and barring new entrants or small ventures from entry into a market.

This is the precise opposite effect that patents are supposed to promote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Act_of_1790
The Patent Act of 1790 was the United States' first patent statute. It was titled "An Act to promote the progress of useful Arts".


Surely US legislators can realise this, and begin the steps towards sorely needed patent reform, or even better, elimination of patents.Edited 2010-11-25 00:32 UTC Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lemur2) Comments Patent Ogre Nathan Myhrwold http://www.osnews.com/thread?451084 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451084 Intellectual Ventures is biggest patent troll around, or call it patent Ogre.

It is founded by exMicrosoftie Nathan Myhrwold and it is rumoured that Bill Gates is investing in IV, and that Microsoft given away first batch of patents to IV when it is founded.

Tricky part is that they don't sue, instead they loan patents to other parties to sue. They call those parties "commercialization partner".

There is video on their site where Nathan the troll talks about that, using cheeky euphemisms, of course
http://www.intellectualventures.com/Home.aspx

Site Techrights.org (which should we thank for exposing Novell and Microsoft) is keeping an eye on IV.
http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intellectual_Ventures

There is all kind of evidence there. Thu, 25 Nov 2010 03:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gnufreex) Comments Samsung on the ring http://www.osnews.com/thread?451094 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451094 "Samsung has not yet been involved in any patent suits"
Well, according to The Guardian smartphones patent wars diagram
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/nov/01/smartphone-pa...
Samsung has already stepped on the battle ring. Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bitwelder) Comments RE: Patent Ogre Nathan Myhrwold http://www.osnews.com/thread?451106 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451106 what?

How can others sue for patent infringement on patents they don't own? Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (_txf_) Comments Patents are the C*Os best friends http://www.osnews.com/thread?451109 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451109 :-)

pica Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pica) Comments RE[2]: Patent Ogre Nathan Myhrwold http://www.osnews.com/thread?451125 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451125 I have no idea, but perhaps they sell a patent to a partner and get a percentage of the money earned through lawsuits? Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arpan) Comments RE: Intellectual Ventures? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451132 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451132 Care to elaborate on that? I thought I read this in the item:

It is important to note that the few things it did develop on its own have not been superficial - for instance, they've been awarded with the MIT Technology Review Top 10 Emerging Technologies in 2009 for a safer nuclear reactor design.

Or maybe you think any patent holder is a vulture? Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vodoomoth) Comments It's going to be fun watching this site... http://www.osnews.com/thread?451142 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451142 ...when Oracle wins the infringement suit against Google. They have the Googs dead to rights. Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (FrankenFuss) Comments Oh, That Nathan Myhrvold http://www.osnews.com/thread?451148 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451148 The one who told us that we could reverse 'global warming' by performing geoengineering - so we go from something that 'could' affect us to genuinely fucking about with the planet in a way we can't reverse.

It's scary that people like this even exist, let alone being in positions where they can suggest these things. Thu, 25 Nov 2010 23:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (segedunum) Comments dream on http://www.osnews.com/thread?451246 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451246 Acacia are patent trolls, who buy patents and go after other companies and schools. However, they have engineers which also write patents as well. Just because a company has made a few contributions to society does not wave the possibility they will act accordingly. However, perhaps this is a way to join all the patents under one umbrella, to prevent all these lawsuits from happening, wonder if Motorola will be next to join. Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (NiteRain) Comments RE: Samsung on the ring http://www.osnews.com/thread?451355 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451355
"Samsung has not yet been involved in any patent suits"
Well, according to The Guardian smartphones patent wars diagram
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/nov/01/smartphone-pa...
Samsung has already stepped on the battle ring.


I see Apple being sued 8 times to their own counter sue of 3 times.

Yes. Apple is certainly the aggressor. They are actually suing only large corporations. (HTC, NOKIA and MOTOROLA)

They are counter suing in two of those cases (MOTO, NOKIA) and suing MOTO. Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tyrione) Comments