OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/24069/Windows_Phone_7_Unlocked_for_Sideloading Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 23 May 2013 21:04:24 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Black cows dancing on grass http://www.osnews.com/thread?451156 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451156 Also, to annoy those who don't like cows: cows & cows & cows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Eddyspeeder) Comments RE: Black cows dancing on grass http://www.osnews.com/thread?451160 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451160 Wow.
I mean... just... wow.
Like, really, wow.
I was going to say something about the unicorns, but, damn.

I don't think I'm going to sleep tonight. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 01:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Drumhellar) Comments Not WHOLE turkeys! http://www.osnews.com/thread?451164 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451164 We cut them up first. Jeez! Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JSandel) Comments Hmmm.... http://www.osnews.com/thread?451169 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451169 One word to describe a unicorns fur?

Smiles...

I had to admit, that made me laugh... Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thavith_osn) Comments Sideloading? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451178 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451178 The ability to load non-marketplace apps onto the phone. Thereby letting in home-brew applications, or applications from other sources. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 05:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (RIchard James13) Comments RE: Black cows dancing on grass http://www.osnews.com/thread?451181 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451181
Also, to annoy those who don't like cows: cows & cows & cows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY

Somehow, I knew it since I was born...

The evil aliens that will cause the end of humanity if it doesn't auto-destruct first MUST be already there watching us ^^'

More seriously, I've rarely seen CG become that creepy ;)

(PS : Sideloading should not be newsworthy, it should have been there in the first place ;) But this raises an interesting question : how do iOS developers test their apps before putting them on the App Store ?)Edited 2010-11-26 06:14 UTC Fri, 26 Nov 2010 06:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Neolander) Comments USB Mass Storage? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451185 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451185 "enterprising hackers already managed to turn Windows Phone 7 devices into default USB mass storage devices..."

Are you sure that it's mass storage? It looks more like an MTP media player device to me. While both modes let you dump files on the phone, they are vastly different. Not to mention that this Zune driver hack only works on Windows.Edited 2010-11-26 06:41 UTC Fri, 26 Nov 2010 06:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (VZsolt) Comments RE: Not WHOLE turkeys! http://www.osnews.com/thread?451187 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451187 You do... not me! ;) *drool* Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments Hey Thom... http://www.osnews.com/thread?451188 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451188 ...I just ordered my HTC HD7 Windows 7 Phone...

Should arrive this week. I'll take notes and submit them to you if you are interested.

I decided to give a smart phone a whirl. I was going to go for an iPad after XMas but... I don't know, thought I'd give this a whir. If it really sucks I have 20 days to return it (for a small restocking fee) and cancel my account with T-Mobile.

Anyway, happy Turkey Day, all!

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I can and will inevitably compare it to my wife's iphone 4 as well.Edited 2010-11-26 07:10 UTC Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments RE: Hey Thom... http://www.osnews.com/thread?451190 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451190 Good luck trying to copy and paste. Microsoft thinks you are a pirate, so no copy and paste allowed. In Microsoft land, you are guilty until proven otherwise. And you are not allowed to make your own choices. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gnufreex) Comments RE[2]: Hey Thom... http://www.osnews.com/thread?451191 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451191 :) Not worried about it, yet. Heck, all I will use it for is GPS and Geo-caching tools, Bible tools, Netflix and games, most likely. Also some note taking and stuff like that... Altho' I might find other uses for it. I've never had a "smart phone," that's more my wife's thing.

I do like her iPhone and it comes in handy frequently. Hoping this will too. But seriously, if it doesn't work for me over a couple weeks it will be returned. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments RE[2]: Black cows dancing on grass http://www.osnews.com/thread?451192 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451192
The evil aliens that will cause the end of humanity if it doesn't auto-destruct first MUST be already there watching us ^^'

Destruction by mechacowzilla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iIgQN5uZEEdited 2010-11-26 07:51 UTC Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (olefiver) Comments RE: Sideloading? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451193 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451193
The ability to load non-marketplace apps onto the phone. Thereby letting in home-brew applications, or applications from other sources.

Marketplace apps are digitally signed so you can't use them. Since this "jailbreak" is using official API won't take long for Microsoft to shut it. Better piracy protection is main advantage that WP7 has over Android, if they lose that why bother developing WP7 since it has much smaller user base.

Developers of this "jailbreak" are saying they only want to allow homebrew, noble cause. However reality is that 1% of users will use it for homebrew and 99% for piracy, look Wii or DS for example. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Karitku) Comments What if... http://www.osnews.com/thread?451194 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451194 As an embedding system ing, I would ask:
- "What if... I install Android 2.2 dual boot on the Phone ?"
:-P
...Ok, sorry... I take the stage-door... --> [] Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (_QJ_) Comments RE[2]: Hey Thom... http://www.osnews.com/thread?451195 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451195
Good luck trying to copy and paste. Microsoft thinks you are a pirate, so no copy and paste allowed. In Microsoft land, you are guilty until proven otherwise. And you are not allowed to make your own choices.

Copy and paste is coming early next year. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (rbenchley) Comments RE[2]: Sideloading? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451198 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451198 MS probably won't close this, they are not nearly as paranoid about such things as other companies. They'll probably just complain about, while patting themselves on the back behind closed doors about how many phones they are selling. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BluenoseJake) Comments RE[3]: Sideloading? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451213 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451213
MS probably won't close this, they are not nearly as paranoid about such things as other companies. They'll probably just complain about, while patting themselves on the back behind closed doors about how many phones they are selling.


Well they are continuing to try to build a positive reputation in the consumer segment (Kinect, Xbox 360, etc). This is just one of the ways for them.

If these were wildly popular devices then this hole would be actively closed just like Apple does it. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dukes) Comments RE[2]: Sideloading? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451219 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451219
Better piracy protection is main advantage that WP7 has over Android, if they lose that why bother developing WP7 since it has much smaller user base.

What about because people are more comfortable with .NET over Java or Visual Studio over Eclipse?

Or how about compatability to write one game that will work on the XBox, PC and WP7?

WP7 might have a smaller market share to Android, but Microsoft are trying to sell a device thats integrated into the greater MS framework. And .NET / Windows has a much greater market share than anything else on the desktop.


Whether this is enough for developers to switch is another matter. but there are incentives other than piracy. Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments RE[4]: Sideloading? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451250 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451250 I'm pretty sure both the xbox 360 and the kinect are wildly popular, the connect hasn't even been out for a quarter,a nd is way over million units sold. The xbox is going to be the sales leader this year.

That sounds pretty popular to me. Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BluenoseJake) Comments RE[3]: Sideloading? http://www.osnews.com/thread?451343 http://www.osnews.com/thread?451343
MS probably won't close this, they are not nearly as paranoid about such things as other companies. They'll probably just complain about, while patting themselves on the back behind closed doors about how many phones they are selling.


This doesn't provide any functionality that isn't already provided by MS. It installs MS' developer certificsate to the device. This normally requires you to pay $99 to get a developer accout at developer.windowsphone.com. Basically, it seems Long, et al., paid the fee, copied the certificate, then made the app to copy the certificate to other devices, bypassing MS' service. There is incentive for MS to block this (support/trust/financial/legal) -- they would probably need to modify their process to incorporate the device's UID into the cert.

However, since it doesn't harm the Marketplace (basically lowers the cost barrier for running your own code on your device to ZuneHD levels), they could remove the cost of developer unlocking devices, and only charge the $99 fee when one intends to submit an app to the Marketplace or take advantage of other services. IIRC, the fee is currently waived for students (DreamSpark). Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (n4cer) Comments