OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/25087/Apple_Also_Manipulated_Evidence_in_Dutch_Apple_v_Samsung_Case Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Fri, 24 May 2013 14:32:43 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?485998 http://www.osnews.com/thread?485998 Apple has finally "jumped the shark". Any corporation that is so arrogant that it deliberately falsifies court evidence to block competitors has massive problems. This can only end very, very badly for Apple. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486001 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486001
Apple has finally "jumped the shark". Any corporation that is so arrogant that it deliberately falsifies court evidence to block competitors has massive problems. This can only end very, very badly for Apple.


I disagree. This kind of aggression and ruthlessness makes me admire Apple from a purely capitalist point of view. I wish I had shares in this company ;)

It's funny how long it took someone to notice such an obvious falsification.Edited 2011-08-19 10:45 UTC Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Aragorn992) Comments RE[2]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486002 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486002
"Apple has finally "jumped the shark". Any corporation that is so arrogant that it deliberately falsifies court evidence to block competitors has massive problems. This can only end very, very badly for Apple.


I disagree. This kind of aggression and ruthlessness makes me admire Apple from a purely capitalist point of view. I wish I had shares in this company ;)

It's funny how long it took someone to notice such an obvious falsification. "

Besides that, I think these pics show that not only Samsung, but every tablet manufacturer is copying Apple:

http://twitpic.com/67ykpa Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pervas) Comments RE[3]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486004 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486004 You should have read the articles here. A similar Tablet was already presented 17 years ago.
Apple was never very innovative, not in design and not in technical specs, they just know better how to do their marketing, that is until now . . . . . Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Janvl) Comments counter http://www.osnews.com/thread?486005 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486005 Samsung should file suit over this and get some lost $$$ since they could be selling their product which is clearly different then the ipad Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arb1) Comments RE[2]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486006 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486006
"Apple has finally "jumped the shark". Any corporation that is so arrogant that it deliberately falsifies court evidence to block competitors has massive problems. This can only end very, very badly for Apple.


I disagree. This kind of aggression and ruthlessness makes me admire Apple from a purely capitalist point of view. I wish I had shares in this company ;)

It's funny how long it took someone to notice such an obvious falsification. "

Last I checked falsifying evidence is very big no no in any court in the world. How can you admire a company that uses clearly unmoral and unethical tactic's to get an edge. Its only thing to do it and not get busted but when you do it in a court filing that is a can of worms Apple shouldn't of opened. I'm no lawyer but Samsung seems to have legal ground to sue for least 3 weeks of lost sales over this. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (arb1) Comments RE[3]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486007 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486007 http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/08/users-treat-criticism-o... Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (fran) Comments Comment by Gusar http://www.osnews.com/thread?486008 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486008 And the open app-drawer again, of course. How much more insane can Apple get? Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Gusar) Comments RE[3]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486009 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486009 If Germany is anything like Australia a few senior Apple executives will be serving prison time for perjury and their lawyers will be disbarred. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments What's next? http://www.osnews.com/thread?486012 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486012 I can't wait until Apple starts filing libel suits in England against their critics, Church of Scientology-style. It's just about the only thing they haven't stooped to yet. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BallmerKnowsBest) Comments ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?486016 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486016 Why this news hasn't been posted?

http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/18/motorola-mobility-sued-by-shareho... Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hiev) Comments RE: ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?486019 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486019 Because it isn't news. Just some nutcase complaining that Google didn't pay enough for Motorola. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE: What's next? http://www.osnews.com/thread?486020 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486020 Don't give them ideas. Apple may become a religion and become tax exempt. They already have enough brain-washed followers. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments Comment by shmerl http://www.osnews.com/thread?486022 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486022 Beginning of the end for Apple? They must be seriously stupid thinking that it won't backfire on them with many people stopping buying their products out of disgust to be dealing with such crooks. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shmerl) Comments RE[4]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486023 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486023 Interesting. I admit I've been guilty of this. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ccraig13) Comments RE[2]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486024 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486024 You admire liars and crooks? What does it have to do with "capitalist point of view"? It has something to do with crooked point of view. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (shmerl) Comments RE: Comment by shmerl http://www.osnews.com/thread?486025 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486025 One can only hope Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (pandronic) Comments inventivity, that's all http://www.osnews.com/thread?486026 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486026 http://tetedampoule.com/wheel Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (roger64) Comments RE[4]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486029 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486029
If Germany is anything like Australia a few senior Apple executives will be serving prison time for perjury and their lawyers will be disbarred.

It would be awesome if this happened. A big win for fair competition in my opinion.

Sadly I can't see it happening Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments RE: ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?486030 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486030
Why this news hasn't been posted?

http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/18/motorola-mobility-sued-by-shareho...


Because nobody submitted it.

In fact, why are you even posting it here when it's not even the slightest bit relevant to this article? Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments RE[2]: ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?486032 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486032 Because nobody submitted it.

How do you know? Are an editor of OSNEWS? Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hiev) Comments RE[2]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486033 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486033 And that's why the self-regulating free market is a pipe dream. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486037 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486037 For Apple to be trying to pull off this shit on a court, those Samsung Tabs must be AWESOME! Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Pana4) Comments RE: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486038 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486038 That's the sad part, the Galaxy tab is no yet comparable to the iPad2, the iPad2 feels more responsive and smooth, and the applications are better, but the Galaxy Tab has flash, so that's a plus for some. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hiev) Comments RE[3]: ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?486039 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486039 You can see the list of pending submissions, without being an editor, in this place : http://www.osnews.com/submit Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Neolander) Comments RE[2]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486040 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486040 It's in Apple's interest to go after potential competitors before they have enough money to bankroll a defense.

It's plain easier to drag defenseless people through the courts. (Yes I'm being cynnical here).Edited 2011-08-19 16:18 UTC Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bnolsen) Comments RE: Comment by shmerl http://www.osnews.com/thread?486041 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486041 hmmm ... highly doubtful ... most people are actually not in the slightest interested in the legal wranglings of companies whose products they buy ... I think it is usually more people technically interested (as those frequenting sites like OSNews) that would care ... but on the larger scale this will blow over most people's heads ... Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (searly) Comments RE[3]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486043 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486043
It's in Apple's interest to go after potential competitors before they have enough money to bankroll a defense.
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I think you may find Samsung a larger company than Apple

Samsung Revenue 2010 - $ 205.9 billion
Apple Revenue 2010 - $ 65.23 billion

... (not that I agree with what Apple did, just your argument does not hold) Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (searly) Comments RE[4]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486046 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486046 Between Samsung and Googorola (that sounds like some kaiju name from a Godzilla movie, but I digress), Apple is starting to upset a lot of powerful people. The funny part is, they're the only ones who are getting mad about it. Google tells their own employees that they need to use either Linux or a Mac for their office desktops. I wonder how long that will last with Apple continuing to attack everyone remotely related to smartphones or tablets. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tidux) Comments RE: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486050 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486050
For Apple to be trying to pull off this shit on a court, those Samsung Tabs must be AWESOME!

My guess is, Apple views competing tablets and smart phones as an interference to their iCloud plans, which depends on people using their products. Then there is the matter of Apple's 30% cut from developers and businesses using Apple's app stores. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thomas2005) Comments Wow. No Bias in this article Thom. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486058 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486058
Apple has asserted in its Dutch complaint several technical patents, unrelated to the size of the device, and a Community design that's also about a shape rather than a particular size.


... and ...

Apple clearly noted that there is a size difference between the two devices in its legal filing.


... and about the German case your foaming at the mouth on ...

, the judge in Germany did not base his decision against Samsung on Apple's photos alone. He also physically examined both devices before deciding that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 likely violated Apple's registered Community Design enough to issue an injunction


http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/08/is-apple-faking-evidence-...

All that said I don't disagree that what Apple has done is sloppy and probably morally questionable but this case is not going to be decided on a couple of pictures. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kristoph) Comments RE: Wow. No Bias in this article Thom. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486062 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486062 As soon as the devices are physically presented to the court the Apple case will collapse. This can only be a futile delaying tactic at best. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE[4]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486063 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486063 Why Apple chose to attack Samsung in particular totally eludes me. Samsung doesn't even need their phone or tablet businesses to prosper.

However if this backfires eg the courts set a precedent weakening design protection Apple will be in dire trouble. Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE[3]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486066 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486066 In a ideal self-regulating free market, not even patents would exist at all, let alone a aberration like this community design thing that Apple are trying to exploit.

Hardcore liberals see court appeals between companies as a government intervention (in short, a company trying to leverage the power of the state in his favor against a competitor), since the judiciary system is a integral part of the state. For them, the sole legal limit that a corporation should have is the plain criminal law, to avoid competitors to kill each other if something went awry, for example. :-) Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (CapEnt) Comments RE[4]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486076 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486076 In theory the ideal communist state works well too. Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments RE[2]: Wow. No Bias in this article Thom. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486077 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486077 Did you bother to read my post?

The German judge not only saw the device he handled both devices and on the basis of that he decided to issue an injunction.

So, in fact, seeing the two devices convinced him that Apple would likely win the case!Edited 2011-08-20 02:50 UTC Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kristoph) Comments RE[3]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486079 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486079
"[q]Apple has finally "jumped the shark". Any corporation that is so arrogant that it deliberately falsifies court evidence to block competitors has massive problems. This can only end very, very badly for Apple.


I disagree. This kind of aggression and ruthlessness makes me admire Apple from a purely capitalist point of view. I wish I had shares in this company ;)

It's funny how long it took someone to notice such an obvious falsification. "

Last I checked falsifying evidence is very big no no in any court in the world. How can you admire a company that uses clearly unmoral and unethical tactic's to get an edge. Its only thing to do it and not get busted but when you do it in a court filing that is a can of worms Apple shouldn't of opened. I'm no lawyer but Samsung seems to have legal ground to sue for least 3 weeks of lost sales over this. [/q]

I said: "from a purely capitalist point of view". The down votes suggest others, and also perhaps you, missed the word "purely" in my original post. Of course, when taking into account the law, it is far from admirable.

Getting into morals is ridiculous though. A company, by law, must put profit ahead of everything else (whilst of course still abiding by other laws :p).

It still amazes me that people cannot admire something for a specific aspect while not admiring (or even despising) other aspects of that same thing.

Also, just wanted to add. You saying that lying is "unmoral and unethical" is nothing more than your opinion. That fact that lying is against the law does not change this.Edited 2011-08-20 04:43 UTC Sat, 20 Aug 2011 04:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Aragorn992) Comments RE[3]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486080 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486080
You admire liars and crooks? What does it have to do with "capitalist point of view"? It has something to do with crooked point of view.


I said: "from a purely capitalist point of view". The down votes suggest others, and also perhaps you, missed the word "purely" in my original post.

But your comment suggests you didn't quite think this out. For example, would you NOT admire liars if, in the process of their lying, they managed to do something more acceptable to you like, I don't know, saving some hostages by lying to the terrorists keeping them hostage?

This whole idea that lying being morally wrong is debatable. Of course it is against the law (in this particular story) but it is also pure hard reality in this world. Suggesting otherwise is unbelievably naive.Edited 2011-08-20 04:39 UTC Sat, 20 Aug 2011 04:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Aragorn992) Comments RE[3]: Wow. No Bias in this article Thom. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486081 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486081 He was probably some doddering old fool who didn't even own a phone. Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE[4]: Wow. No Bias in this article Thom. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486082 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486082 That's what I was thinking too. The guy is probably completely unaware the that the iPad is the spitting image of the Knight Ridder, or that companies in the industry routinely copy each other's ideas or that Apple devices are polished up versions of other companies devices. In short, he takes a quick glance at the two devices and says, "Holy crap, these things look alike" without any real basis for an injunction. Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (vitae) Comments RE[2]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486085 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486085 This is not Capitalism.
It's as government-driven as it gets.

In capitalism (whether its a personal attitude or a political system), everything is settled by the parties involved only- and if they make or lose money or customers fighting each other by producing competitive products- Well, so it is. That's it. There's no court playing third-party (even if you looked for one). There are no patent rights. There is only limited scope for copyright. No one will hear your claims over code, science, hardware arrangements etc. You are responsible for people knowing what ideas are attributable to you.
There MIGHT be a provision for highly unique designs as art. But even art does not really have protection. Art, too, works like a market. If you get copied, you get copied.
You fight with your products to win. Make alliances with other companies if necessary- make the right choices.
The government is small or even almost non-existent - and simply for non-intrusive, contract-based administration of public services- which does not have any true money of its own- because it does not tax companies or people.
This is capitalism in the form people who talk about it mean.
I don't know when "Capitalism" became interchangeable with "Mixed economy", "Hedonism/Nihilism" and "Pragmatism", those words have been named especially to reflect that they are completely different ideas.

What we have here is absolutely nothing like that.
What I do admire, or rather what fascinates me, is the mad pragmatism of the company. (I think you mean this, too) ;)

It takes some serious ego and guts to do stuff like this- and I've got out the popcorn and I'm waiting (or hoping, is it? ;) ) for someone who will match them madness. ;) I'd love a good show. Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (SnelHest) Comments RE: fghgfh http://www.osnews.com/thread?486086 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486086 I'm getting tired of seeing this link. Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (robertson) Comments RE[5]: Wow. No Bias in this article Thom. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486098 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486098 Samsung need to take the judge down to a phone shop or computer store to see how very similar many products are. In many cases you can only really tell the difference by reading the makers brand on the case. Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE[5]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486102 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486102
Between Samsung and Googorola (that sounds like some kaiju name from a Godzilla movie, but I digress), Apple is starting to upset a lot of powerful people. The funny part is, they're the only ones who are getting mad about it. Google tells their own employees that they need to use either Linux or a Mac for their office desktops. I wonder how long that will last with Apple continuing to attack everyone remotely related to smartphones or tablets.


Not so, my Nephew is a Lead Dev at Google, all he uses is MS Windows Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcus0263) Comments RE[6]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486109 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486109 What was this stuff about then ?

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but...
http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/06/mac-os-x-and-linux-are... Edited 2011-08-20 17:03 UTC Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Neolander) Comments RE[2]: What's next? http://www.osnews.com/thread?486117 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486117 So they haven't yet become one!?!?!?! Shocking!!! Sat, 20 Aug 2011 18:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JAlexoid) Comments RE[2]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486118 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486118 My eyes must be really well adjusted to PC level of smoothness...
Because iPad2 does not feel right, though in a different way than Android. iOS feels like having a smudging lag, while Android feels like having a jerking lag. WP7 feels somehow better...

Games, however, are a different area. And app responsiveness? No, pretty much depends on the app... Sat, 20 Aug 2011 18:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JAlexoid) Comments RE[7]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486119 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486119 Well... Obviously Windows devs need to have Windows installed. It's over-hyped, because they probably have Linux/Mac as the preferred option, rather than mandatory. Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (JAlexoid) Comments RE[8]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486128 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486128
Well... Obviously Windows devs need to have Windows installed. It's over-hyped, because they probably have Linux/Mac as the preferred option, rather than mandatory.


He's not a "Windows" Dev ;) Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcus0263) Comments RE[8]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486129 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486129
Well... Obviously Windows devs need to have Windows installed. It's over-hyped, because they probably have Linux/Mac as the preferred option, rather than mandatory.

He's not a "Windows" Dev Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcus0263) Comments RE[5]: Comment by Pana4 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486198 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486198
Why Apple chose to attack Samsung in particular totally eludes me. Samsung doesn't even need their phone or tablet businesses to prosper.


You just came up with a new reason: Samsung might be willing to back down if things get bad enough, or at least dump Android for something more... original.

The other reason is that Samsung is the Android vendor responsible for the closest copies, from the minimalist design and packaging to the look of the icons. Which also means that, regarding the rest of your comment:

However if this backfires eg the courts set a precedent weakening design protection Apple will be in dire trouble.


if Apple loses against Samsung, they'll know they have no rights against the less severe imitators, and it's time to move on.

They could have tried going against some of the more brazen Chinese counterfeits of past years to test the waters first and get some legal momentum, but there are a few problems with that. For one, there's just no point -- fake iPods weren't made by legitimate companies and never sold in serious numbers -- and for two, it might backfire: if they outright failed, the entire world would know that design protections are utterly unenforceable, and if they won, the precedent might not be helpful. When judges look at precedent, they hone in on the differences between the preceding and current cases, and they might get hung up on how much Samsung isn't a counterfeiter rather than how much they are an imitator.

So in short, Samsung, now, makes a lot of sense as a target. Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (atsureki) Comments RE[5]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486218 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486218
In theory the ideal communist state works well too.


the communists accepted their failure after the first crash
the capitalists produce one crash after another and don't learn from it

i don't want communism back, but i think we should have abandomed capitalism a long time ago Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (smashIt) Comments RE[3]: pure insanity from Apple. http://www.osnews.com/thread?486223 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486223
This is not Capitalism.
It's as government-driven as it gets.


Yup, under 'pure' capitalism, companies wouldn't be taking each other to court over patent issues, because patents (and other forms of intellectual property) constitute government interference in the market.

Pure capitalism isn't much more desirable than pure socialism, but anyone who blames it for the current system understand what capitalism actually is. Mon, 22 Aug 2011 00:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Delgarde) Comments RE: Comment by shmerl http://www.osnews.com/thread?486521 http://www.osnews.com/thread?486521 "Apple is Doomed", eh? Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (testman) Comments