OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/25402/Apple_Loses_iPad_Trademark_Case_in_China Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sat, 25 May 2013 17:05:20 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499356 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499356 As I was reading this right below the story there was a huge advertisement for something iBank. ;)

Can someone tell me just what the deal with the i-prefix is? Does it have any meaning, like the e-prefix?

Of course, I realize that in the case described in the article it seems that there was no actual i-prefix, just the four letter IPAD in uppercase.

Maybe I should start a naming scheme with a upperletter R suffix... Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ephracis) Comments RE: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499361 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499361 Personally, I think the i-prefix was used when the e-prefix was starting to feel old.

I remember watching a film somewhere in which a business man was trying to smooth talk that it encompass intelligent, interconnected, or something like that. Or it could've been Dilbert. I'm not too sure. ;)

Maybe we should start popularising the p-prefix. That way I'll be in stitches whenever someone mentions the p-cam. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (LeeZH) Comments If... http://www.osnews.com/thread?499368 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499368 ...some other company had iPad before Apple in China (or anywhere), then they are entitled to use it and Apple has no right to try and stop them!

I'm an Apple fanboy since 1980. Just because I like products made by a particular company doesn't mean I subscribe to everything they believe or do, I am sure most fans of most things are the same.

I love my Ford Falcon, but Henry was totally into the Nazi thing. Doesn't mean I stop driving my Ford, but also doesn't mean I want to be a Nazi either.

Apple does some cool stuff, but they also do some pretty silly stuff do, as does Google, as does MS, as does everyone else... Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thavith_osn) Comments Origins of 'I' http://www.osnews.com/thread?499372 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499372 I was an "eBusiness Manager" (my actual title) back when the 'i' first appeared. At the time, it was understood to imply "Internet". This was around 2000 and "Internet" was still a big deal. Not that "2.0" and "Cloud" are really any different of course. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tanishaj) Comments it's the law http://www.osnews.com/thread?499373 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499373 The law is the law. If someone else filed a legitimate claim for the iPad name in advance of Apple then Apple either has to pay them off (which is almost certainly what they want) or rename the iPad in China to something else.

Unfortunately for Apple the next best name - XYBoard - is already taken ;-)

]{ Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kristoph) Comments RE: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499378 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499378 The first iThing was the iMac in 1998, it stood for Internet.

After that it became a marketing thing. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 05:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments It's not THAT easy http://www.osnews.com/thread?499386 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499386 From TFA, Apple purchased the "global trademark" of "IPAD" from Proview Electronics in 2006 but apparently the TM-holder in China is Proview Technology, another daughter of Proview International. The dispute is about whether the "global trademark" covers the Chinese TM, too, or not.

I can't express my opinion of Apple and people giving Apple money in a friendly manner, so I'll refrain, but this is not looking like some kind of strong-arm tactic or willful neglect on the side of Apple.Edited 2011-12-08 07:26 UTC Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (B. Janssen) Comments RE: it's the law http://www.osnews.com/thread?499387 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499387 I hope they sell the brand to Samsung instead of Apple. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (spiderman) Comments RE[2]: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499390 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499390 Before then, I think it was commonplace to prefix things with "Intelligent" or "Intelli", but I could be misremembering. This was more than half my life ago ;) Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Moredhas) Comments RE[3]: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499391 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499391 Intelligent Design? ;-)

I don't recall any general naming trend. I think most naming conventions were more or less restricted to certain brands. I think IBM liked to put an e in front of stuff.

Personally I would prefer any naming strategy to actually mean something.

Apple's i stood for Internet, but most iPods don't have Internet access. Only the iPod touch does and it came years after the original iPod. It's a cool name, but I don't see a link between Internet, a pod (I do know where they got that name from) and a media player. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 08:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments RE: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499396 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499396 "i" stands for imaginary (also, notably: i^2 = -1 ) Thu, 08 Dec 2011 09:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments RE: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499408 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499408

Maybe I should start a naming scheme with a upperletter R suffix...

...or uppercase K prefix, oh that's already been done Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments RE: it's the law http://www.osnews.com/thread?499409 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499409
The law is the law. If someone else filed a legitimate claim for the iPad name in advance of Apple then Apple either has to pay them off (which is almost certainly what they want)

There was this case of a computer company using the same name as a record label, who strictly forbid said computer company from releasing any music-orientated products.

Funny enough, that was Apple and they released the iPod regardless.Edited 2011-12-08 12:52 UTC Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments RE[2]: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499427 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499427
The first iThing was the iMac in 1998, it stood for Internet.


No.

"IThings" were around long before Apple had them.

Here is the Lowel iLight: http://www.bwitekblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ilight1.jpg

The iLight first appeared in 1985, as did it's trademark.

There are other earlier examples, and there has been at least one thread on OSNews on the subject.

Again, Apple just doesn't actually originate much.Edited 2011-12-08 15:43 UTC Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tupp) Comments RE[2]: it's the law http://www.osnews.com/thread?499430 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499430 A Samsung Ipad in China will be a cool product. I'd ask friends in China to buy me one (even if I don't have a need for a tablet right now). Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (qroon) Comments RE[3]: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499431 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499431 Okay, for once I'll admit you're right, even though it took a strange looking lamp. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments RE[2]: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499433 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499433 Ah yes.. it's confusing and conveluted when KDE bases a naming convention around it's overall product suite. but when Apple develops a naming convention not related to it's company name and primary Mac brand, it's magic and revolutionary.

But then, I've found the people who get hung up over the name rather than the actual merits of the thing don't usually have anything of substance to offer beyond the superficial title. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jabbotts) Comments RE[2]: it's the law - if we're going to look at history http://www.osnews.com/thread?499435 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499435 Cisco had Iphone first didn't they? Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jabbotts) Comments RE[3]: it's the law - if we're going to look at history http://www.osnews.com/thread?499451 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499451 is was and still is IOS. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (spiderman) Comments iNteractive http://www.osnews.com/thread?499458 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499458 I've already assumed the letter 'i' was short for 'interactive'.

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www.amigaos.net Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (djrikki) Comments sounds familiar http://www.osnews.com/thread?499468 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499468 The US based Deckers has trademarked the term UGG in in 145 countries to brand their sheepskin boots. This is despite the fact that "ugg" boots were invented in Australia and the name has been a generic term here and in NZ for nearly 40 years.

The great irony is that in Australia ugg boots were traditionally only worn by bogons ("rednecks/trailer trash"). In the US they are considered to be high fashion items. Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE: sounds familiar http://www.osnews.com/thread?499479 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499479
The great irony is that in Australia ugg boots were traditionally only worn by bogons ("rednecks/trailer trash"). In the US they are considered to be high fashion items.

Oh come on now, everyone has a pair! They're the best thing for a winter's day. :-) Thu, 08 Dec 2011 23:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (testman) Comments RE[3]: it's the law - if we're going to look at history http://www.osnews.com/thread?499486 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499486 Yeah. Apple licensed the name from them.

Same for iOS; Cisco had that first as well (IOS being the OS on their routers). Fri, 09 Dec 2011 00:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (phoenix) Comments Comment by ilovebeer http://www.osnews.com/thread?499502 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499502 There are more important things happening in the world than to worry about stupid shit like this... Instead of wasting money on these dumb ass lawsuits, spend it on something that actually has positive impact in peoples lives.

Sorry, ....was dreaming there for a second. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ilovebeer) Comments RE[3]: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499507 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499507 I'm still wating for the new KDE programmes -Krock, Krud, Krap and Kumshot - to be released. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE[2]: sounds familiar http://www.osnews.com/thread?499509 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499509 I have a pair too. But you don't wear them outside of the house if you have any dignity. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (unclefester) Comments RE[4]: Comment by ephracis - why wait http://www.osnews.com/thread?499529 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499529 just grab the source and Kompile them yourself. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jabbotts) Comments RE[4]: it's the law - licensing http://www.osnews.com/thread?499530 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499530 I remember the licensing being the result of a court case rather than Apple going "hey, we'd like to use that.. could we license it?"

I know both companies are running the IOS name but for the first commenter, there was actually a phone called the Iphone. I belive it was a wifi connecting or voip phone so both Iphone and IOS where "borrowed" after some legal debate. Apple is developing bit of of a history of knowingly taking other's names because it fits there marketing plan at the time. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jabbotts) Comments Stroking the ego http://www.osnews.com/thread?499533 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499533 From a book I read long ago by a somewhat famous car salesman on marketing and sales, it was a psychological technique used to get a customer to say the words "I" and "me" as many times as possible in a sales transaction. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Pana4) Comments RE[3]: Comment by ephracis http://www.osnews.com/thread?499536 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499536 There is nothing new under the sun. If you think you have thought of something first, chances are you haven't... Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (thavith_osn) Comments haha http://www.osnews.com/thread?499893 http://www.osnews.com/thread?499893 Nothing new here, Apple even stole the design from crunchpad which released prototype designs 18 months before apple even announced an iPAD Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lorin) Comments