OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/25555/Jailbreaking_The_Internet_For_Freedom_s_Sake Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sat, 25 May 2013 05:30:52 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Good article. http://www.osnews.com/thread?505336 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505336 It's a bit "doom and gloom", but ever so slowly we are edging creepily closer to that reality.

Centralized services would be at the most serious risk. Unfortunately though, the gradual loss of direct peer to peer connectivity due to NAT devices for technical reasons (whether through our own routers, or by wireless/cable ISPs), is already making us largely dependent upon centralized services to reach each other. Consider that many mobile devices cannot establish direct connectivity between each other using publicly rout-able IP's.

So in order for peer to peer censorship evasion technologies to work on a very wide scale, we'd need to simultaneously solve the growing peer to peer connectivity problem. Some may consider this "already solved" with IPv6, but that hasn't occurred yet. NAT solutions like STUN are dependent upon no-NAT peers, and will perform worse as the ratio of NAT to no-NAT increases. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Alfman) Comments Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505338 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505338 We must remember that for most people on internet today, "the internet" is only facebook. So, why should they care? They just want to be "boxed" and share photos with family and friends while insulting each other.

People with minimal discernment are minority. Easy to 'seek and destroy' (to quote J. Hetfield).

Internet is gone, nothing we can do here. Lets move on and find another tool. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (caruccio) Comments RE: Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505342 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505342 Reincarnate Usenet anyone? Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (joehms22) Comments RE: Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505347 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505347
We must remember that for most people on internet today, "the internet" is only facebook.


For many, maybe. For most, I don't think so. I do have a FB account, and I don't spend more than 10 or 20 minutes a day on it. But then I am also the administrator of a technical forum with 800,000+ users and visitors in excess of 2,000 during the day.
And let's be honest, how do many people use most of their internet bandwidth? Downloading. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous Penguin) Comments RE: Good article. http://www.osnews.com/thread?505390 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505390
It's a bit "doom and gloom", but ever so slowly we are edging creepily closer to that reality.


Personally, I think it's a bit overblown. Entities like the RIAA and MPAA don't care a wit about censoring speech; they just want people to stop pirating their shit. Of course, people are never going to stop pirating their shit, so they're going to keep trying to pass laws like SOPA, until they eventually give up or (more likely) go bankrupt. Sure, they might one day be successful at buying a law that breaks the internet, but that would be an unfortunate consequence of their end goal, which is to stop little Johny from downloading the latest Snoop Dogg album without paying for it. That's all these entities really care about.

Of course, we could kill all this nonsense today if people would just STOP F**KING PIRATING, but we all know that's never going to happen. I guess it's more important to us to have the latest Snoop Dogg album for free than to get rid of this looming threat that constantly over the horizon.Edited 2012-02-01 06:13 UTC Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (WorknMan) Comments RE[2]: Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505393 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505393
And let's be honest, how do many people use most of their internet bandwidth? Downloading.


Isn't Netflix now responsible for some majority share of all bandwidth consumed? Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Not2Sure) Comments Comment by marcp http://www.osnews.com/thread?505398 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505398 Actually, that thing is being produced as we speak ...
It's called "FreedomBox".

Besides, I don't get the autor. Why should you trust your freedom to closed source OS? it's like giving a dog to some crazy-ass violent maniac for a weekend.
It won't thrive

And, finally ... I don't think it's good to compare internet and iPhone jailbreaking. iPhone is closed, internet was always open. Even if some baboons [love this word] decide otherwise, internet is built on open technologies [unlike iPhone for that matter - we don't count OSS components but final product] Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcp) Comments RE: Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505399 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505399 Yeah, right. And Radio is all gone because of TV. Books are gone too ... come on! get real and cure your unreasonable pessimism.

I do - however - agree [to some extend] with FB part of your post. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcp) Comments RE[2]: Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505400 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505400 Reincarnate huge floppies? they're so practical.

Usenet was kinda hard to use for a normal, regular person. It may be the refuge for geeks only. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcp) Comments RE[2]: Good article. http://www.osnews.com/thread?505401 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505401 The problem is: figthing piracy IS also censoring and figthing privacy ...Edited 2012-02-01 07:47 UTC Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcp) Comments RE[3]: Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505402 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505402 Unfortunately is. That damn thing slows down the internet to cripple.

Of course it needs to be in HD quality and it needs to be the whole goddamn season people are watching. Do something productive. Supporting Hollywood and the industry that fights your rights and freedom IS NOT productive, people.Edited 2012-02-01 07:49 UTC Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (marcp) Comments RE[3]: Good article. http://www.osnews.com/thread?505506 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505506
The problem is: figthing piracy IS also censoring and figthing privacy ...


Exactly. A great example of this are the results when BMG Canada attempted the same style of "John Doe" lawsuits that had been used in the US, trying to force ISPs to reveal the identity of their customers. A judge denied the request on the grounds that several conditions needed to be met (and hadn't), including:

"the public interests favouring disclosure must outweigh legitimate privacy concerns."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMG_v._John_Doe#Federal_Court_decision

Of course, any nationalistic pride I might feel about that is undermined the fact that our current federal government is gung-ho to jump on the ACTA bandwagon and doing everything in their power to bring our copyright system & enforcement in line with the US (see also: Bill C-11, which might as well be called SOPA.ca - http://www.michaelgeist.ca/tags/c-11). Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments RE: Bad feelings http://www.osnews.com/thread?505717 http://www.osnews.com/thread?505717 I believe you are mistaken, even grossly inaccurate...

...people generally don't insult each other on FB - they are circle-jerking themselves (well, and their small babies, in a way; or at least pictures of them)


But seriously, ultimately the internet is only... network of networks. We can add another to it, one that's hiding (or maybe, at worst, is largely on the ~side, like municipal networks in various technologies, with some inter-city links - even independent, like optical or backup radio / directed ~wifi, when weather is worse ...intercontinental would be a problem; still, it will be probably largely the "hiding" variant) Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments