OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/25646/We_re_back_up_and_running_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 22 May 2013 22:12:40 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Well... http://www.osnews.com/thread?508326 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508326 I dunno... it was kind of sexy... Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Boomshiki) Comments Damn http://www.osnews.com/thread?508327 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508327 So it wasn't a cease and desist order for patent infringement!

Glad everything's back Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bombuzal) Comments Loose cables http://www.osnews.com/thread?508331 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508331 Loose cables? I was hoping for this headline:

BREAKING NEWS: INFINITELY FAST QUANTUM COMPUTER BREAKS LAWS OF PHYSICS! Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Zifre) Comments RE: Damn http://www.osnews.com/thread?508332 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508332 My router has been acting wacky lately (left in on a radiator). Resetting, rebooting and such usually get it going. However, this afternoon I couldn't get it to work again.

The thing was, I kept testing the connection with "ping osnews.com" :$

EDIT: Wasn't meant as a reply to bombuzal.Edited 2012-02-24 19:30 UTC Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (righard) Comments SATA connectors are crap! http://www.osnews.com/thread?508333 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508333 Whoever came up with the non-locking SATA connector needs to be taken out back and shot.

IDE connectors were nice and tight, and could not "wiggle loose" on their own.

P-SCSCI connectors were nice and tight, and could not "wiggle loose" on their own.

Multi-lane SAS connectors all have locking clips, so they can't "wiggle loose".

Some vendors provide locking SATA connectors, but they're fairly rare and add a bit of cost.

Why, oh why, oh why did the standard SATA connector make it out of the lab? These things are flimsy, non-locking, and will "wiggle loose" with very little provocation (similar to HDMI cables). Especially when used with 10K/15K RPM drives, or multiple 7.2K RPM drives in a case. You get a lot of vibration in a multi-U rackmount case stuffed full of drives. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (phoenix) Comments why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508335 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508335 I work as a data center administrator for a major internet hosting company, cant say who, but we're in the top 3 hosting companies.....

The cables may have worked loose due to other servers being deprovisioned and removed from the rack or being removed to be upgraded with memory or other hardware upgrades. It sometimes happens when we pull other servers from the racks, it causes other servers in the cabinet to slide forward too when the other server is pulled out. it would take a while for anything to work that loose though, but that's a possible reason for it happening. Just wanted to pass on what I knew hope it helps. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DREVILl30564) Comments RE: why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508339 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508339
I work as a data center administrator for a major internet hosting company, cant say who, but we're in the top 3 hosting companies.....

Is it the same company that hosts your website? ;) Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (righard) Comments Sexy indeed.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?508342 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508342 "If you're expecting some sexy story - "

Yes, my first thought was.. Isn't Thom dating Heidi Klum?! .. maybe he lured her back to the server room and condensation from the steamy geeky conversation was causing electrical problems..

hate when that happens.. and i wake up .. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Brunis) Comments RE[2]: why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508344 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508344 nope I checked, we don't host osnews Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DREVILl30564) Comments RE[3]: why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508348 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508348
nope I checked, we don't host osnews

I think he meant yours. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (reez) Comments RE[4]: why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508351 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508351 ah, sorry I'm a bit on the slow side today, been fighting a cold. Yeah my site is hosted on my company supplied personal server ;) Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (DREVILl30564) Comments Comment by transputer_guy http://www.osnews.com/thread?508353 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508353 There was a time in far off Soviet computing that the chips used to jump out of their sockets.

The sockets were made locally to metric dimensions, while the chips were imported from the US, so 25 to 25.4 ratio eventually made them pop by themselves. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (transputer_guy) Comments RE: Sexy indeed.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?508354 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508354 I do not wish to envision any scenario that could possibly involve the words "Thom" and "sexy" together, thank you very much.

Only joking Thom. Anyway, it could have been worse: a co-worker and I once had a very important and old server fall out of the rack (from about U20 or so) when we were moving it. Needless to say, it didn't really work once we tried powering it back on. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments raid? http://www.osnews.com/thread?508356 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508356 Why use physical hardware for hosting when virtualizaion and clustering would be cheaper and more reliable. Our servers got all n+1 PSU, RAID1 SAS drives with battery backed raid controller. And all servers work in cluster- when some hardware come down, there would be just VM machines moving to other cluster nodes or in case of total destruction just restoring latest backup to other node. Of course there is multiple internet connections available and network cards bonded together. High Availability options available if needed- you'll get multiple virtual machines mirroring each other. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (antik) Comments RE: Comment by transputer_guy http://www.osnews.com/thread?508359 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508359
There was a time in far off Soviet computing that the chips used to jump out of their sockets.

Those occurrences were not limited to the USSR. The CEO of some fruity USA computer company (whose logo wasn't a pear...) insisted the 3rd major design of their computer should not contain any fans. Even though the engineers thought it needed one. So over time the repeated heating and cooling worked chips loose from their sockets.

The official remedy was to drop it on the desk from the height of a few inches... Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (timl) Comments RE: why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508364 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508364 A simpler explanation is just the vibration of all the harddrives running in a rack, or in a server. Especially if you have multi-U systems with 20+ drives in it. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (phoenix) Comments RE[2]: Sexy indeed.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?508365 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508365
I do not wish to envision any scenario that could possibly involve the words "Thom" and "sexy" together, thank you very much.


*come hither look* Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Thom_Holwerda) Comments RE[2]: Comment by transputer_guy http://www.osnews.com/thread?508368 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508368 /troll mode ON

Microsoft, copying everything from Not-A-Pear down to the Xbox 360's overheating problems.

*takes shelter* Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Neolander) Comments Comment by MOS6510 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508382 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508382 Isn't there some way to blame Apple for this? :-p Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments RE[5]: why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508383 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508383 Wow, I have bookmarked your site. BIG darkwave fan and I've always preferred the Cruxshadows to The Last Dance! ;) Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Morgan) Comments RE[3]: Comment by transputer_guy http://www.osnews.com/thread?508385 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508385 I must have been extremely lucky, I have a second-hand XBox 360 Elite that has never overheated or had graphics issues. My best friend's original white XBox 360 glitches like crazy, and I'm going to attempt to redo the heatsink for him sometime soon.

That said, mine won't play any discs so it's far from a perfect unit. Downloaded games and streaming content are excellent though! Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Morgan) Comments RE: Comment by MOS6510 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508389 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508389 Seeing Apple's lock-in strategies and there willingness to sue others over patent infrigment. most producers have decided on excluding locking mechanisms for there SATA cables.

:-PEdited 2012-02-24 23:54 UTC Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (righard) Comments RE: SATA connectors are crap! http://www.osnews.com/thread?508409 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508409 When I bought my Gigabyte mobo for my Quad core, it came with several all latching Sata cables while most disk drives come with the loose fitting ones. The latching cables sometimes don't fit some female sockets but otherwise I far prefer them to the old IDE ribbons or SCSI cables which have plenty of their own mechanical issues. Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (transputer_guy) Comments RE[2]: Sexy indeed.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?508413 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508413 That is only slightly worse than my experience. I had a server I was taking out of a rack for service get stuck on one rail. Then I lost my grip. Needless to say that the one rail didn't hold it in place. Down it came with a spray of ball bearings everywhere. Boy that was a bad day. Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TechGeek) Comments RE[4]: Comment by transputer_guy http://www.osnews.com/thread?508439 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508439 IIRC, the original XBox 360 had RROD failure rates of about 30%, so the majority still worked - though with glitches ;)

I still remember the noise when turning one on though. It felt like someone brought an airplane reactor to my friend's room... Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Neolander) Comments RE: Well... http://www.osnews.com/thread?508458 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508458 Thom hid the thruth. IT WAS THE ANONYMOUS!!!! Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Browser Insider) Comments RE: Loose cables http://www.osnews.com/thread?508459 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508459 This is a very common problem of sata cables (as seen on the Internet). Personally this has happened 3 times. Every time I was about to pull my hair. When the computer restarts all of the sudden for no apparent reason (even with Linux, yes), or if your bios complains about your disk driver, or if no disk is found, suspect the sata cable! Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Browser Insider) Comments RE: SATA connectors are crap! http://www.osnews.com/thread?508462 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508462 I've had a Raid degrade for exactly the same reason but it not just the crap non-locking connectors. Cheap SATA cables themselves are a problem, buy a new drive and then loose data and be plagued with instability due to a damn rubbish cable,and that’s before it falls out completely. Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Gone fishing) Comments RE[2]: why the cables may have worked loose http://www.osnews.com/thread?508466 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508466 It can also be the cause of non-optimal performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

Fibration is a real problem for HDD. Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lennie) Comments RE[2]: Loose cables http://www.osnews.com/thread?508474 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508474 I think the OP was referring to the recent news item that "a loose fiber-optic cable may be behind measurements that seemed to show neutrinos outpacing the speed of light" at CERN, where the original results, were they correct, would have actually broken widely-accepted laws of physics.

(Even though it appears that there may be more to it: http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/official-word-on-... ) Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (s-peter) Comments RE: raid? http://www.osnews.com/thread?508477 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508477 There are lots of ways that virtualization can go wrong, there are many failure modes.

With a dedicated server the customer knows exactly what they are getting, it is very predictable.

Especially if the custumer already needs more than one server of each service anyway (multiple webservers and multiple database servers for example).

With virtualization the customer depends on the provider getting all of it right. The customer can't see what they are doing (wrong).

It depends on the requirements of the customer.Edited 2012-02-25 12:46 UTC Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lennie) Comments RE[2]: SATA connectors are crap! http://www.osnews.com/thread?508536 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508536 I've had the same problem... somehow when routing my cables in a build I've managed to "break" them and have had to go out and buy more. I now tend to automatically order "good" cables with new drives or mobos. Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Tuishimi) Comments It's just tech support talk for http://www.osnews.com/thread?508560 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508560 "Oh crap! the new guy fumbled and unplugged the cable by mistake. Quick, make something up". Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments RE: It's just tech support talk for http://www.osnews.com/thread?508653 http://www.osnews.com/thread?508653 "It's my first day!" Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (daedalus) Comments