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OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/25784/Jack_Tramiel_passed_away_age_83 Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 23 May 2013 08:22:07 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513360 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513360 My father was a big fan of their calculators. He used one up until it up and died and he replaced it with an HP 15C and then a 48G, which he never really warmed to as it wasn't really a keystroke calculator.

My first computer was a KIM-1, from MOS, and my primary teething machines were early PETs. Even with just 8K and the little chiclet keyboards, the machines were real wonders. The integrated tape recorder pretty much always worked flawlessly, something I could never really say about other tape interfaces. Auto start, auto stop, no volume control - they just worked. The graphic character set let us write all sorts of nifty games and utilities. The mono display was always nice and sharp. Far better than what TVs could provide.

I later jumped to the dark side and got an Atari 800, this was pre-C64. But even then I never warmed to the C64, I was always enraptured by the Atari hardware. I loved the Display List. However at $595, the C64 was an absolute steal and it was right for them to sell them by the truckload.

We're going through the home computer revolution again today, the world of the old school 8-bits. Only now it's in the mobile environment, and the machines are just that much less accessible due to the difficulty in programming them. But still, we're in that age of new wonders every quarter combined with balkanization of platforms and idioms. It's an exciting time.

Sad to see old luminaries pass, but was exciting to share the world with them.Edited 2012-04-09 20:07 UTC Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (whartung) Comments Commodore 64 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513362 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513362 a hrf="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64"

To :

a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64"

(and you may delete this post...) Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Treza) Comments Sad news indeed http://www.osnews.com/thread?513369 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513369 Jack Tramiel crossed over from Commodore to Atari very shortly after my father thought we should have a computer and we bought an Atari 800XL. We were shocked, first to hear that we had bought from a bankrupt company, and then at how Tramiel slashed the prices. :-) It was a rough introduction to how the computer industry worked, and how my coming years would be. But when he introduced the Atari ST line, I thought it was the most beautiful looking computer ever made, and the corresponding XE line only slightly less so. I still do, so thanks for that, and for keeping Atari alive another decade. Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kaj-de-Vos) Comments Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513373 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513373 So sad yet its inevitable that those people who we idolized during our childhood are starting to die of old age.

Ahh the old Commodore vs Atari wars in the early 80's. It was quite something when Tramiel "switched sides" in 1984.

Personally this makes me more sad than when Steve Jobs passed away, since in my case Tramiel/Commodore molded my childhood fascination with computers (via the PET's and my first computer the VIC-20), which ultimately lead to my career in the computer science field.

However I suppose we will not hear much in the mainstream media even though Jack and Commodore helped make the home computer affordable to most people. Since Commodore went bankrupt in '94 history gets written by those that remain. Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bbell) Comments Fond memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513384 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513384 My first machine was Commodore VC-20 (end of August 1984). It had entire 3,5 KB of RAM...

Yes, VC-20 - not VIC-20 - since it was german version, advertised as "Volkscomputer" (anyone remember that too?). Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Zbigniew) Comments RE: Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513386 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513386

Ahh the old Commodore vs Atari wars in the early 80's. It was quite something when Tramiel "switched sides" in 1984.

Isn't it a bit of paradox, that Commodore's "flagship" has been designed by former Atari employees (associates?) - I mean Jay Miner's team - and Atari's "flagship" (ST) has been built by the people (when left Commodore along with Tramiel), that made C-64?Edited 2012-04-09 21:40 UTC Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Zbigniew) Comments RE[2]: Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513389 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513389 Yeah, I always told that story. :-) Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kaj-de-Vos) Comments How sad!! http://www.osnews.com/thread?513391 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513391 Don't even get me started on how great I loved and respected the Commodore computer line! I cut my teeth in middle school on a Commodore 64. After that, I upgraded to a Commodore 128D in High school. In college, I had a Commodore 500+ and a Commodore 2000 before Commodore went bust in the early 90s. To this day, I contend that Commodore's computing technology was superior in every way shape and form to anything available at that time from Wintel or Apple. Jack Tramiel was truly a visionary and I am saddened by his loss. Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (cmost) Comments RE[2]: Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513399 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513399

"Ahh the old Commodore vs Atari wars in the early 80's. It was quite something when Tramiel "switched sides" in 1984.

Isn't it a bit of paradox, that Commodore's "flagship" has been designed by former Atari employees (associates?) - I mean Jay Miner's team - and Atari's "flagship" (ST) has been built by the people (when left Commodore along with Tramiel), that made C-64? "

I was actually irritated by that. I didn't know until years later that Jay Miner had created both the Atari 8-bit Line and the Amiga Line.

Looking back at it, it was obvious though. I had an Atari 800XL, which I absolutely loved. So many things on that looked fantastic, and I recall my friend having so many issues with his Commodore 64 (remember the speed load cartridge you absolutely HAD to have?)

Well, when it came time for the 16bit systems to come out, I naturally followed the Atari brand, and he followed the Amiga brand. The Amigas were particularly better than the Atari ST in Graphics and Sound. I had managed though to get the Atari Mega STe, which had comparable palette and stereo sound. Alas (yeah, I had to use that word, it's too unused), most software didn't support the extended features of the STe, not to mention some weird compatibility issues.

Now I still have my Mega STe, plus an Atari TT030. But I had to add to my collection an Amiga A4000D, which I've upgraded with PCI and a Radeon + Network card.

Even though it still has the stock CPU, it seems faster than my Core 2 Quad in some ways.

Hats off to you Jack Tramiel, for helping the computer industry along.

Seems Atari only really went down hill after the ownership was passed onto Sam Tramiel. Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (leech) Comments Sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513411 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513411 Togheter with Tandy, I learn programming with a Commodore 64.

I learn assembler with those, in high school, and it was more easy that the one that came with Intel processors. And the "sprites", making easy to develop own games.

Its make me weird, remember, that most of my coworkers, even my same age, learn to program in windows, not even D.O.S., while some of us, learn in high school, when there wasn't D.O.S.

As I read, in a related web article, Its sad we know more about Jobs or Gates than this guy.Edited 2012-04-10 01:08 UTC Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (umlcat) Comments Rest In Peace, Mr. Tramiel http://www.osnews.com/thread?513424 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513424 I have my own story to tell about him. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 02:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gus3) Comments Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513426 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513426 He valued what privacy he could get. He was perfectly comfortable with the world knowing less about him than about Jobs and Gates. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gus3) Comments RE: Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513427 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513427

He valued what privacy he could get. He was perfectly comfortable with the world knowing less about him than about Jobs and Gates.

That's because the true innovators were all quiet types that loved to tinker. Generally socially awkward as well.

Jobs and Gates weren't really the innovators that people like Wozniak, Jay Miner were (well are in Woz's case). They were all about the money. Cha-Ching! Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (leech) Comments RE: Fond memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513434 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513434 I have working VC-20 in the attic.

It wasn't called the VIC in Germany, because it sounded too much like a rude word. So they dropped the letter 'i' and 'VC' make a lot of people think about VW (Volkswagen).

So it wasn't actually planned, but it did help sell them. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments Secret Weapons http://www.osnews.com/thread?513435 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513435 If you were in to Commodore this should make a very interesting site:

http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/ Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments RE: Memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513441 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513441 *Jack Daniels passed away* Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (OSNevvs) Comments Comment by kovacm http://www.osnews.com/thread?513443 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513443 ;( ;( ;(

"For the masses and not the classes" & "Power without price"

Thank you Jack for everything!

Jack Tramiel Interview (1985)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NImJFV3wH88#t=1m05s

one and half hour with J. Tramiel: Commodore 64 - 25th Anniversary Celebration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBvbsPNBIyk (abolutly MUST SEE)

Jack Tramiel from 1985.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uK7cnsE-4Q

...and new Atari with Jack at helm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqSm5sbg3Wk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQCVwduR5_U

...and one GREAT C64 ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSgNRng7e50

"Changed my life, and gave me a sanctuary against
the MS/Gates flood of unexciting blandness... "

@Thom please correct phrase: "...man behind Atari..." - somebody could ask himself: "and where is Nolan Bushnell?" Jack T. was man behind Atari Corp. from 1984.; and until then, he tried to "destroy" very same Atari

(take a look at interview: Commodore 64 - 25th Anniversary Celebration) Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kovacm) Comments RE: Comment by kovacm http://www.osnews.com/thread?513454 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513454 Was a sarcasm...

Kochise Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kochise) Comments RE: Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513457 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513457

So sad yet its inevitable that those people who we idolized during our childhood are starting to die of old age.

I don't know if "idolized" is really the correct word when it comes to Jack Tramiel. Chuck Peddle and Jay Miner, sure, but Jack? Jack was one mean businessman, but he made plenty of mistakes (backwards compatibility issues being the biggest).

That's not to say I don't think Jack was a great man who did a hell of a job with Commodore Business Machines and Atari, but I do believe that if he'd only listened to his engineers a little better, Jack Tramiel could've given Steve Jobs a run for his money! Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Vanders) Comments RE: Rest In Peace, Mr. Tramiel http://www.osnews.com/thread?513484 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513484 To read :

http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=995
http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=1000
http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=1383

Kochise Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Kochise) Comments RE[2]: Fond memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513490 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513490 I have a Atari 600XL and a 800XL with boatloads of hardware add-ons, Also an Amiga A1200 with 030 accelerator/expansions and such. I still use all of them even now and they all work flawlessly like they did when they left the factory. They knew how to make em back then!
This is is sad news indeed. RIP Jack, may you find the golden keyboard of eternity. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sauron) Comments RE[2]: Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513497 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513497

That is very true. But, I think it is today we idolize the engineers. In 1982 as a early teen I do not remember us knowing of the engineers (remember there was no internet or wikipedia available to us). Most news we heard (through magazines presumably) would always mention Jack Tramiel, or perhaps the name of the marketing person at Commodore that was quoted.

It wasn't until the C128 and Amiga with the easter eggs and signatures in plastic that we learned about those engineers that made it all possible.

Of course now we realize the full story through the internet and great books like "On the Edge: The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore". Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bbell) Comments RE[2]: Rest In Peace, Mr. Tramiel http://www.osnews.com/thread?513499 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513499 Thank you. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (gus3) Comments RE[2]: Fond memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513505 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513505 I understand. I have a PET 2001 N32 (With the Skyles Electric works V4 Basic chip), a CBM 8032, A 2040 disk drive (software upgraded to 4040), a 1541, a 1581, a printer (forgot the number) and even a 128. Most of it works. The 8032 and 2040 have some RAM chip problems and don't recognize all of their memory, but all still power up. I have pictures of my 7 year old playing on the PET. It is so cool.

RIP Jack. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (amadensor) Comments RE[3]: Fond memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513509 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513509 I sadly I don't have a PET, they look so cool.

I have a VC-20, a couple of C64s (breadbox and C-model), a C128 and a bunch of Amiga computers.

My original C64 died, I think the fuse is blown. I still have it though.

Recently I played Wizard of Wor with my son, which was a very special moment for me. I used to play with my big brother, but he died a few years ago.

I got hold of this cartridge that allows you to insert a SD card. On the card you can put games, which you can load directly, or .D64 images which you can write to a real disk.

For me the 80's was a magical time, mostly due to the C64. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments Introvert vs Extrovert http://www.osnews.com/thread?513523 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513523 "That's because the true innovators were all quiet types that loved to tinker. Generally socially awkward as well.

Jobs and Gates weren't really the innovators that people like Wozniak, Jay Miner were (well are in Woz's case). They were all about the money. Cha-Ching!"

This brings up a short piece I saw on morning TV the other day on the topic of people who are introvert and those who are extrovert.

I found it quite informative piece, they were just trying to sell a book by the same time, but all the same it soon for me, put things into perspective.

The Geeks (the introverts) aka the innovators often don't get as much recognition as they should- often its years later they get the recognition they deserve.

I am sure this is the same for all industries.

Surely history is full of introverts that changed history, but the extroverts took all the recognition and glory. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (djrikki) Comments RE: Memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513537 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513537 Wow, another KIM-1 owned.

When I read the thread on SlashDotOrg about this, not one KIM-1 owner posted. Made me think that the old timers no longer existed there.

The KIM-1 I owned was used as the brains for a large robot my friend Steve and I built. However the cheap 5v relays we used melted under the load of the motors and since we wired the relay directly to the chip outputs we ended up burning out the interface

Today of-course I know better and would have used those relays to control higher current handling relays that in turn would have controlled the motors.

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Earl C Pottinger) Comments RE[2]: Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513549 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513549 Jack Tramiel was a business man, period. Which makes him more more like either Jobs or Gates.

Yes, he led two of the companies which produced some of the computers some of us cherished in our kid years, but that is a far from being a technological "innovator."

Still, a sad day for his family. RIP. Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tylerdurden) Comments RE[3]: Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513656 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513656

Yes, he led two of the companies which produced some of the computers some of us cherished in our kid years, but that is a far from being a technological "innovator."

at Commodore 64 - 25th Anniversary Celebration Steve Wozniak noted that the Apple II was cheaper to build than the PET 2001 and sold for three times the price. "We wanted to build a company that would be around for awhile," he poked Jack.

Jack Tramiel make computers affordable to millions of people. Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kovacm) Comments RE[3]: Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513669 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513669 That book was so depressing. All the leverage Commodore had and then Gould & Ali killed it with moronic decisions. Sad. The industry benefited from the competition.

Now 95% of all computers are PC/Windows and the only thing happening between major windows upgrades is that the gayness level increases by 30%. Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wanker90210) Comments RE[4]: Shame http://www.osnews.com/thread?513673 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513673

Now 95% of all computers are PC/Windows and the only thing happening between major windows upgrades is that the gayness level increases by 30%.

Now that made me laugh. I guess that means you tried windows 8, huh? Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bbell) Comments RE[4]: Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513691 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513691 So he followed a business model of low margin/high volume. That proves my point that he was a business man.

The "innovators" are the guys working on the design of the machines, not the one making bank off them.Edited 2012-04-11 19:11 UTC Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tylerdurden) Comments RE[5]: Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513772 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513772 I guess you could say he was a business innovator in selling home computers. Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments RE[5]: Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513789 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513789 call him as you like but he was major person that made personal computer revolution possible and widespread

and innovator was Jack's chef engineer Shiraz Shivji. He, with 5 other engineers, design ST in 6 months: ST had 10% faster CPU, 30% bigger resolution, DMA 10Mbit/s port, 4 x more memory and cost 2.5 LESS than original Mac which was designed for 3-4 years... at the end, ST could run Mac software, just faster and in bigger resolution

Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kovacm) Comments Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?513867 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513867 Forget about the amiga.

The first amiga, A1000 requires kickstart-disks and was an annoyance.
Later they fixed some of the obscurities, and released A500. The amiga 500 is the sole reason for the amigas good reputation.
We can clearly see that they were lucky.
Later models were not that popular, and some flopped totally.
In the A4000, their last top model, they still had the 8bit sound of the A1000, while the rest of computing world had moved to 16bit. So don`t say they wasn`t greedy in whatever department.

Commodore is often critizised for clowing around with their business, but clearly they clowned around with the engineering aswell.

So their two sucesses was c64 and a500. The rest was flops (?).

C`mon people, it`s just a PC. If they indeed were so good, they could repeat the success on modern hardware, and new OS, but they don`t.

Anyway, if you want to know why people liked these vintage machines, config a linux kernel for low latency. (standard kernel will do). And it will feel very much like many of those wellprogrammed assemblycoded apps/demos/games, that were responsive on that hardware.

So there is absolutely no reason to be stuck in the past.

Btw, does anyone know if the story that "someone just came in and did "component X" in the OS, and left again" and that component X is a vital part of the amigas responsiveness, is true? So the "innovation" seems rather random aswell.

RIP though still, on a human level.Edited 2012-04-12 15:08 UTC Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ParadoxUncreated) Comments RE: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?513883 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513883 ...and how exactly Jack Tramiel is related to Amiga ? Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kovacm) Comments RE[6]: Don't feel sad http://www.osnews.com/thread?513904 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513904 To be fair, there were definitively more than 5 people involved in the design of the ST ;-) Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tylerdurden) Comments RE[2]: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?513932 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513932 I don`t know how involved he was.

PS: SNES audio chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_S-SMP

The S-DSP is capable of producing and mixing 8 simultaneous voices at any relevant pitch and volume in 16-bit stereo at a sample rate of 32 kHz. It has support for voice panning, ADSR envelope control, echo with filtering (via a programmable 8-tap FIR), and using noise as sound source (useful for certain sound effects such as wind). S-DSP sound samples are stored in RAM in compressed (BRR) format. Communications between the S-SMP and the S-DSP are carried out via memory-mapped I/O.

Snes Released 21. november 1990.

Amiga 4000, released 1992. Same old faggot 8bit 4chan chip. TWO YEARS LATER. And the Amiga 4000 was exceedingly expensive.. Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ParadoxUncreated) Comments RE[2]: Memories... http://www.osnews.com/thread?513993 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513993 Maybe because some of us were playing with different things like the Altair? My first real "PC" was the VIC which of course was easy to talk my parents into thanks to not only the price but being plugged by The Shat, i mean if its good enough for Kirk right?

Frankly I never thought Tramiel got the credit he deserved. before old Jack and Commodore computers were strictly the toys for the rich, common folks really couldn't afford them. it was Tramiel that really gave us the first computer that anybody could afford and thanks to that computers suddenly sprung up everywhere, there were clubs in even the small towns, stores everywhere had the VIC and mags popped up overnight giving us all tons of programs to type in and try.

RIP computer man, thanks to you a lifetime love of computers was born in many and you in no small part paved the way to computers being as common as TVs. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (bassbeast) Comments RE[3]: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?513998 http://www.osnews.com/thread?513998 I really wont like to turn this thread in technical discussion but in short:

Jack T. has nothing with Amiga. Regarding sound, Atari Corp. produce Atari Falcon030 computer in 1992. that could do 16bit, 44.1KHz 16 channel harddisc audio recording; plus it could do realtime effects thanx to built in DSP.

Something that PC will do in years to come...

Thanx to DSP Falcon could also play MP3 in full quality (something that require at least 486 DX4/100MHz that come out in years...).

@tylerdurden according to many resources on internet, Shiraz have six engineers that design complete ST hardware. There was also software group of ~15 people that port (and finished) DRI GEM OS.

http://www.atarimagazines.com/startv3n1/threeyearsofst.html Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kovacm) Comments RE[4]: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?514063 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514063 Yes I remember some guys around here had the falcon. It was little known though. But yes it had 16bit sound, as I said, everyone had moved to 16 bit then. Soundblaster 16 was also available for PC, although probably mostly usable in dos. Windows had many years, probably until XP, before it was fully usable with multimedia. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ParadoxUncreated) Comments RE[5]: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?514065 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514065 They still have that onebutton joystick leetness?
Combine that with tac-2 that inflicts physical pain each time you push the button, and you have the greatest gaming experience.

http://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/09/... Edited 2012-04-13 14:55 UTC Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ParadoxUncreated) Comments RE[6]: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?514070 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514070 One could point out a lot of stuff that is clearly not innovation. Even on the c64, one button was retarded.

And on OS`s, Ken Sakamura made this in 1984 (!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRON_Project Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ParadoxUncreated) Comments RE[7]: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?514092 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514092 The falcon sounded nice. I should have bought that instead of my h/w sampler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGn3XcITpSQ&feature=youtu.be

Was it really that noisy? Sounds like monitor hum there among other things.
They should have implemented DSP to lessen it, limiter etc, or maybe balanced outs.
Still would have been cooler than a lot of h/w at the time, and the file could have been written digitally. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ParadoxUncreated) Comments RE[8]: Old pc`s.. http://www.osnews.com/thread?514140 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514140

Was it really that noisy? Sounds like monitor hum there among other things.
They should have implemented DSP to lessen it, limiter etc, or maybe balanced outs.

No, Falcon is not noisy at all. It has CD quality input/output - musician always removed default bass booster from audio output.

Beside 16 channel digital audio recording, Falcon could be used as softsynth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmClVtfz3iU
this is Ace Tracker (no samples involved). Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kovacm) Comments