http://www.osnews.com/story/25812/US_slams_Australia_s_on-shore_cloud_fixation Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Fri, 24 May 2013 12:47:14 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?514086 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514086 The US sure seems awfully concerned about a foreign company. Too bad they don't show that much concern for their own domestic companies. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (seanc7) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514087 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514087 Maybe US citizens (and others) should/are choosing to host their data in Australia to avoid the Patriot Act.

Ok, so realistically Australia wouldn't be my first choice for some technical reasons, such as geographic location leading to high latency and not having direct links to countries the majority of my users are in.

Still, the US should learn to more seriously consider the implications to commerce of items designed to "protect".

As an individual, if I wanted excellent protection against sickness I should avoid all contact with living organisms and live in a cave. For starters, total isolation makes it hard to live (food). And, if per chance I did have contact with another human, I would almost certainly contract some common bacterial/viral infection and die from it. The irony here being that increased protection can result in increased risk from the very thing you are trying to guard against.

Fear drives many illogical, ineffective beahviours. And, although we may have nothing to fear but fear itself, I worry about the actions taken by others as a consequence of their fears.Edited 2012-04-13 16:56 UTC Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (lfeagan) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514090 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514090 I can't think of a more Patriotic Act than that.

;-)

-Hack Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hackus) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514093 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514093 The Australians have correctly assessed the impact of the US Patriot Act. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kateline) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514095 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514095 claiming it created a significant trade barrier for US technology firms

How about US technology firms pull their head out of their backside and stop boycotting the rest of the world by refusing to:

1) Sell products to consumers outside of the United States - you've got an online store, there are courier services, and mention on the order, "the customer is repsonsible for all taxes, duties or charges imposed by the countries government being imported into" and voila problem solved.
2) Offer US consumer deals but then tell non-US based customers to go f-ck themselves and offer them nothing. If you're operating on the belief that the US is the centre of the world then quite frankly you and your company deserve to crash and burn.

Once again we see the US whining about being 'misunderstood' - can't wait till the patriotic winbags start down voting this post.Edited 2012-04-13 17:54 UTC Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kaiwai) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514108 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514108 "Fear causes panic. And panic will cause your worst fears to come true." Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TechGeek) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514109 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514109 Its fairly obvious to everyone but us. We will not follow our own rules when it comes to security if we think the ends justify the means. We reap what we sow. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (TechGeek) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514110 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514110 Everyone need to off-shore more parts of their business, especially U.S companies should off-shore more jobs to South-East Asia. It really stimulates the growth over here.
Wait, that's not what they mean? Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514111 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514111 The truth is that there in a tariff on foreign data. That embedded tariff goes against trade agreements.


How silly of the US to expect them to comply with fair trade! Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jefro) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514113 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514113 They're not concerned about a foreign company, they're concerned that someone put a wrench in the "fuck your local companies and businesses, buy our stuff" machinery. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Soulbender) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514119 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514119 American's want 'energy independence'.
Many countries want 'technological independence'.

It goes by lots of names. All to avoid 'free-trade'. Everyone likes to have free-trade to export. But few want to face the imports and loss of industries.

They will use whatever excuses they want. Most of it is just excuses. It's all about protecting things from free-trade.

Not saying we should or shouldn't have free-trade. But that's just how the game is played. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Yamin) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514159 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514159 Data pipes between the east and the west are pretty bad. So it actually makes a lot of sense Australia hosting their data locally: more bandwidth, lower latency, etc. Stuff like that matters when using cloud solutions.Edited 2012-04-14 08:44 UTC Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Laurence) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514167 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514167 So its OK for some US companies to insist their data remains on US soil and only administered by US citizens? Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (david.chatterton) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514209 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514209 What a silly US Trade Representative they have, perhaps someone should teach her/him a little logic, perhaps explain a little about "too much latency gives us a shirt service" and the fact we don't trust them with anything of ours. Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Digihooman) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?514219 http://www.osnews.com/thread?514219 It's a free market. They should be happy. Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kwan_e) Comments