OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/25976/Linux_3_4_released Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 26 May 2013 00:50:00 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518889 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518889 Great! As a die-hard M$ fan, the way Windows 8 is going, I'm eager to finally install a Linux distro on my desktop permanently. I'm sure many others are pondering about this as well. Metro is so f*cked up to use (such a productivity killer - yes, I tried the latest beta, it's still crap), I'm willing to bet everything I own that no serious business (let's say the Forbes 500) will ever allow Windows 8 on their desktops as a default. Maybe for special purposes only, but nothing more.

On another note: does anybody know if BTRFS is stable enough for regular use? Last I heard there were still some people losing files or waking up with a borked file system. I was recommended ext4 (which I like), but I'm always looking for a "better" file system. Tue, 22 May 2012 00:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (1c3d0g) Comments RE: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518890 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518890 BtrFS doesn't have a production quality fsck yet, so it'd be playing russian roulette with your data. Hopefully that'll be there by 3.5. Tue, 22 May 2012 00:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tidux) Comments RE: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518891 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518891 Btrfs is probably stable enough to use, but its recovery tools (the last time I checked) were not up to par with the recovery tools for other file systems. Plus Btrfs in my tests is quite a bit slower than ext4. You're probably better off using ext3 or ext4 for now, until Btrfs performance and reliability have been proven. Tue, 22 May 2012 00:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jessesmith) Comments RE: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518899 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518899 Stick to ext4. It's just as supported as any newly added file system.

Edit: and probably just as good.Edited 2012-05-22 01:34 UTC Tue, 22 May 2012 01:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hussam) Comments RE: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518905 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518905 Btrfs is looking better every release, but it isn't for everyone yet.

Windows 8 will be the next Vista.

I wouldn't be surprised if more business uses the newer Windows server version than the desktop version.

As the server version got a lot of new tricks.

I've been off Windows for years now, so I don't care what Windows does. Personally I'm looking forward to seeing bcache* get merged in the Linux kernel.

This also seems to be more and more likely to happen soon (by some definitions of soon).

* http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/ Tue, 22 May 2012 02:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lennie) Comments RE[2]: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518958 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518958 I used btrfs on my Ubuntu 11.04 system (just as a trial) and it totally bogged down I/O operations on my system.

Only figured it out that it was actually the case when doing a fresh install for the 12.04

So you can try it if you want (and you probably should since there might be some hardware issues related to that) but just remember that in case something funky happens to revert to ext3 or 4 and check if you have same issues. Tue, 22 May 2012 09:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (HangLoose) Comments RE[2]: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518965 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518965
Btrfs is probably stable enough to use


Unfortunately, no. I've played with it on disposal data and results were a bit frightening... It will get there, but right now it's not stable for production use. Tue, 22 May 2012 10:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Sodki) Comments RE: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518975 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518975 Or use XFS ;)

I've been using XFS for years without a glitch. Fast, scalable, simply fantastic. Tue, 22 May 2012 11:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (turrini) Comments RE: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?518996 http://www.osnews.com/thread?518996
I'm eager to finally install a Linux distro on my desktop permanently

First I would try it some times. There's a "VirtualBox disk image of Kubuntu 11.04 i386 Desktop, stable version" on
http://min.us/mX2I0UnLl
to conduct experiments on it.

About it there is a README.txt on https://i.minus.com/1337778127/eeGARp8m1AmKNLNAgSSWjA/drL47umKRwqLn....

If you have any doubt, on this thread you can make questions. Tue, 22 May 2012 13:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Nth_Man) Comments RE[2]: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?519012 http://www.osnews.com/thread?519012 I've been using XFS for years without a glitch. Fast, scalable, simply fantastic.

I did some testing with XFS a few months ago. An IO-bound process took over 5 days (!!) on ext3, 14 hours on XFS). In my testing, ext4 was a little faster than XFS, but it still takes *way* to long to fsck.ext4 a 1TB file system filled with tiny files. Fsck.xfs is always under 2 seconds. Tue, 22 May 2012 15:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MattPie) Comments RE[3]: Awesome http://www.osnews.com/thread?519058 http://www.osnews.com/thread?519058 You might like this XFS presentation from Jan. this year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegjLbCnoBw Tue, 22 May 2012 23:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Lennie) Comments