OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/26166/Twitter_follows_Facebook_down_the_walled_garden_path Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 21 May 2013 03:13:25 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526162 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526162 This will always happen when you thrush your business to a 3rd party.

If some product/API does not bring enough money home, it will be terminated without any regret.

I think many young developers don't know how it used to be back in the old days, when free in computing was a foreign word and we had to pay for everything. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (moondevil) Comments It's because of Twitter's proprietary nature http://www.osnews.com/thread?526167 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526167 Many users of free software on desktop think that Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, Google services, etc. is different because it's in the cloud, it's web service so it doesn't matter if it's proprietery, but eventually theirs proprietary nature always come up restricting users in something. This is the perfect example. Freedom of users is always behind profit.

Identica, here we come ;) Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (adundovi) Comments RE: Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526168 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526168 Actually it used to be free in every sense in the beginning. That it became capitalized, primarily in USA (one of those countries in the axis of evil). Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE[2]: Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526176 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526176 Only if you mean the very beginning.

I started with computers with the age of 8 around 1984 and always had to pay, or take "shortcuts".

There was nothing to have for free. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (moondevil) Comments RE[3]: Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526186 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526186 I began with computers around the same time, and never had problem getting stuff for free, though it did require a lot of typing in dubious code from magazines ;) - unless you wrote your own game from scratch (C64 and Amstrad CPC-664).

Then came a time primarily with proprietary software and now it is a battle between pay-for-software and pay-for-service, and those who want to combine them :p Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE[4]: Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526193 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526193 I imagine someone had to pay for those magazines. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (moondevil) Comments Not a "walled garden" http://www.osnews.com/thread?526202 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526202 Singing birds are usually kept in cages after all - all is fine as long as they can twit... Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments RE[5]: Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526226 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526226 Irrelevant. The price of the media is irrelevant to the price of the software itself.

You just won't admit to yourself, you defined 'beginning' incorrectly. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (dylansmrjones) Comments RE[6]: Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526231 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526231 Type-in software in magazines was often (perhaps even typically) a work of somebody in the stuff; or commissioned by the magazine to some ~outsider. Either way, more than just its dissemination paid from the price of the media. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments Decentralized http://www.osnews.com/thread?526232 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526232 If a service like Twitter was invented 20 years ago, it would have been a decentralized service with an open protocol. Everyone would be able to run his own twitter service and all those "twitter" servers would be able to communicate with each other.

These days every big company needs to have its own closed social network with its own proprietary protocols. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (snowbender) Comments RE[6]: Business as usual http://www.osnews.com/thread?526246 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526246
Irrelevant. The price of the media is irrelevant to the price of the software itself.


No when you are a 8 year old kid that is supposed to buy such magazines with his own money.

For sure those magazines did not felt like free to me.

You just won't admit to yourself, you defined 'beginning' incorrectly.


I was quite precise by stating the year. Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (moondevil) Comments RE: Decentralized http://www.osnews.com/thread?526259 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526259
If a service like Twitter was invented 20 years ago, it would have been a decentralized service with an open protocol

What, kind of like Gopher? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)#Stagnation Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (KLU9) Comments RE: Decentralized http://www.osnews.com/thread?526562 http://www.osnews.com/thread?526562 There were BBSs, FidoNet, giving not totally unlike kinds of service - also with public messages. Usenet not far from that, too.
Thing is... they were a bit of a mess (and, partly also because of that, rather niche)

OTOH, some very centralised, similar in nature services did exist 20+ years ago (12:30 in http://archive.org/details/frenchtech1 ), and probably saw much more adoption.
Network effects (the people, societal kinds) partly promote centralised stuff. Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments