OSNews: http://www.osnews.com/story/26231/Microsoft_launches_Outlook_com Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Sun, 26 May 2013 03:50:46 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif OSNews.com http://www.osnews.com Comment by martinsm http://www.osnews.com/thread?529046 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529046 You mean adding other accounts like this? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/outlook/other-email-acco... Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (martinsm) Comments oldmail http://www.osnews.com/thread?529047 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529047 It looks ok, but it struck me - why the 'oldmail' on the sketchboard looks exactly like gmail? ;)

EDIT: one issue with the MS service tho -- they don't use IMAP -- huuuuge problem...Edited 2012-07-31 20:24 UTC Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (wojtek) Comments Again? http://www.osnews.com/thread?529050 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529050 Hotmail, Live, and now Outlook? When is Microsoft going to settle with one strategy and develop that one.

Microsoft lost the track on Hotmail not because of the stupid name, but because Yahoo! Mail and GMail came along with more and better features. Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (HangLoose) Comments ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?529051 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529051 I just registered 24 new accounts, fresh names to sell later, btw. anyone interested in console.writeline@outlook.com?Edited 2012-07-31 21:08 UTC Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Hiev) Comments Decent http://www.osnews.com/thread?529052 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529052 Finally, MS has a web client that can compete with Gmail. Am I going to switch? Nope. Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (silviucc) Comments Integrated Skype looks promising http://www.osnews.com/thread?529053 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529053 Good stuff. Clean and simple. Google could learn from this move. Especially getting rid of the Google+ garbage that crept in.

Now if only MS would stop importing "contacts" from Facebouque/Twitter. Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ronaldst) Comments RE: Comment by martinsm http://www.osnews.com/thread?529060 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529060 Hahaha, what a great feature. If you want decent email client, you have to send all your emails to Microsoft. If you don't want to do this, you're stuck with a shitty desktop client.

Now I understand why the desktop client is shitty in the first place. Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Ford Prefect) Comments RE: Again? http://www.osnews.com/thread?529064 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529064
Hotmail, Live, and now Outlook? When is Microsoft going to settle with one strategy and develop that one.


Maybe there isn't really any strategy and they're just haphazardly jumping from one thing to another. Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Stephen!) Comments RE[2]: Comment by martinsm http://www.osnews.com/thread?529067 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529067
Hahaha, what a great feature. If you want decent email client, you have to send all your emails to Microsoft. If you don't want to do this, you're stuck with a shitty desktop client.

Now I understand why the desktop client is shitty in the first place.


Or, you could buy the Outlook desktop app (or use any other desktop email client of your choice). Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (n4cer) Comments RE: Integrated Skype looks promising http://www.osnews.com/thread?529091 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529091 It looks very nice in the Windows Phone 7 browser; clean, simple, and fast just like native WP7 apps tend to be.

But then I think, why would I want to use this when the native WP7 email app is even better? I suppose it could be handy for a non Windows smartphone, but again both Android and iOS let you use the native mail clients with Hotmail/Live. So really, what's the point?

I suppose I can see the advantage for people like my fiancée; she uses the Hotmail web interface on her laptop and may find the new look enticing. But I prefer an IMAP email client on a computer, even as nice as the new look is. Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Morgan) Comments RE[2]: Integrated Skype looks promising http://www.osnews.com/thread?529092 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529092 Some people don't like to install software locally.
Some people are not allowed to install software locally.
And some people are using a computer that is not their own (internetcafe while travelling).

In all those scenario's a good webmail is a great alternative. Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (avgalen) Comments RE[3]: Integrated Skype looks promising http://www.osnews.com/thread?529095 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529095 Well I was mostly talking about the mobile version of the webmail client. As I said, some people (like my fiancée) prefer or require a web interface on the desktop.

I'm also wondering what the government office I work for will do. We currently use a Server 2003 hosted web front end to Outlook; it will be interesting to see if the IT department moves us to outlook.com or continues with the more robust (but backend nightmare) of the remote Outlook webapp. Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Morgan) Comments RE[2]: Again? http://www.osnews.com/thread?529096 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529096 Hotmail wasn't their idea/product, they bought it as it was. Their Live stuff lived for a few years and with the imminent arrival of Metro/Windows 8 they get more of their products in line.

So it's not like they're changing strategy all the time.

At least it's a serious improvement over Hotmail. I've had an Hotmail address since 1998, happy to finally get a less silly address. Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (MOS6510) Comments RE[3]: Integrated Skype looks promising http://www.osnews.com/thread?529158 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529158 I think you really need both - native email clients and a decent webmail interface too. The first is solved by using standard access methods (IMAP etc.), and the second it looks like they're working on. I won't be holding my breath though - I have had a Hotmail address for 13 years, and since Gmail came along I hardly ever use it. In fact, last time I tried was on a Mac using Safari (whatever version Lion comes with), and I couldn't copy, paste or add attachments. Maybe it was Safari, maybe it was Hotmail. All I know is that Gmail worked perfectly in the same browser.

Still, maybe they'll surprise me and allow IMAP along with a decent web interface that works everywhere too... Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (daedalus) Comments RE: Again? http://www.osnews.com/thread?529165 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529165
Hotmail, Live, and now Outlook? When is Microsoft going to settle with one strategy and develop that one.

Microsoft lost the track on Hotmail not because of the stupid name, but because Yahoo! Mail and GMail came along with more and better features.


Microsoft bought hotmail - and Microsoft used Hotmail as an example of transitioning from FreeBSD to Windows when it comes to servers, clustering, high availability etc. Lets just say that what they learned from that we're seeing today such as PowerShell etc.

Regarding the branding - it took them long enough to finally consolidate their brands around their two most powerful ones - Windows and Microsoft Office. It never mad any sense establishing new ones because in the long run the money required to get recognition would have been better spent developing services that actually matters. I like the idea of Outlook mail but I'm concerned how disjointed it'll be when it comes to other functionality that Microsoft wishes to provide - will we eventually see a uniform branding and use or Metro? My only fear is that like many cases before we'll see a half-assed attempt that is never followed through completely thus we have a horrible collage thus giving possible customers the view that Microsoft doesn't know what the heck it's doing. Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kaiwai) Comments RE[3]: Comment by martinsm http://www.osnews.com/thread?529280 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529280 Or use a Mac, where decent PIM functionality is integrated in the OS. Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ThomasFuhringer) Comments What's the benefit of outlook.com for the user? http://www.osnews.com/thread?529282 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529282 Why would I want to switch a x@live.com e-mail address to x@outlook.com?
I was looking up and down. Failed to see an argument. Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (ThomasFuhringer) Comments RE: ... http://www.osnews.com/thread?529304 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529304
I just registered 24 new accounts, fresh names to sell later, btw. anyone interested in console.writeline@outlook.com?

These are the times when I wish Odin existed to bring swift justice... Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Fergy) Comments RE: Again? http://www.osnews.com/thread?529760 http://www.osnews.com/thread?529760
Hotmail, Live, and now Outlook? When is Microsoft going to settle with one strategy and develop that one.

The traditional Yahoo Mail classic, Ajax version introduced half+ decade ago, and the latest default version with new design, all concurrently available? Two major Gmail redesigns bringing dubious improvements? The horror... when will they settle with one, and develop that one? Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (zima) Comments