http://www.osnews.com/story/26557/Haiku_R1_alpha_4_1_bugfix_release_update Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2013, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 20 May 2013 00:33:18 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread?542687 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542687 I was about to post a disgruntled post over at the last news update. I'm a fan of Haiku, but was upset that a laptop previously capable of running the system, now failed to install the OS properly. Alright, time to give it another go. Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (andrewclunn) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542688 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542688 I'm sure the devs are happy for the users that reported the bugs resulting in them getting fixed rather than making disgruntled posts on the press release. Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jayrulez) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542706 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542706 Two critical bugs, only when booting from on read-only media.

What to say? A "normal" installation would be on a hard disk (partition) or an USB memory key or a virtual machine. Installing Haiku on a read-only medium is of very limited use, and in practice it's also more work and more expensive to write a CD-ROM, resulting in a slower boot-up... I don't understand why they still support read-only media and why some users insist on using them.

On the other hand, an OS that can boot from read-only media is more flexible and probably boots faster and with less chance of problems. The Haiku team strives for perfection, it seems. Fri, 16 Nov 2012 07:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evert) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542714 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542714 Well, probably because some devices are from the same days as when BeOS emerged. And yet I haven't seen one of those devices booting from a usb stick.

Even my IBM Thinkpad T42 from 2005 cannot do that. And that is my main machine running Haiku.Edited 2012-11-16 08:22 UTC Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (comrad) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542746 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542746 And you run into KDL for the first time ever for just installing ..

I'm crossing my fingers this was just a glitch! Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Brunis) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542769 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542769 Nice to hear that. Do you mind to recommend me good tutorials or documents for installing haiku on a T42?

Thanks in advance Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (poliorcetes) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542779 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542779 Or, indeed, on any Thinkpad. Hopefully I'll have a spare x200s to play with it on. So long as the video and networking work, of course. Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (M.Onty) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542820 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542820 Before I download the ISO:

Can Haiku handle Solid State Drives that need some things taken care by the OS?
(like TRIM and such...) Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (jello) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542823 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542823 Haiku has full hardware support except for cpuidle on the x120e. I've seen pics. Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tidux) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542824 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542824 Don't count on it. Haiku filesystem drivers are dicey things, and I wouldn't recommend subjecting an SSD to it just yet. Windows and Linux both have TRIM support on the default filesystems, so they're what I would recommend for an SSD. Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (tidux) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542825 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542825 It's mainly a concern because quite a few people try to install the OS onto their normal read-write media by booting from a CD ; obviously if the latter won't boot then they're not going to get very far at trying the OS out. In any case, the bug doesn't actually pertain to read-only vs read-write per se, it's an issue where the list of loaded images wouldn't be properly normalized because a bug in some of the hashtable iteration code would result in entries getting skipped (if you're morbidly curious about the details, see http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=ad53cd29cb74a329731b9e759... ). Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (anevilyak) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542830 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542830 We detect TRIM support... and can act on the OS TRIM SCSI request... but the other two sides of that process aren't complete

http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=b937bd211c37af1cbd71f58ab... Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (kallisti5) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542832 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542832 Absolutely amazing progress!

Booted the VMWare image in Fusion. Everything I tried worked. Absolutely superb work, well done! Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (hornett) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542836 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542836 I have been using a Intel SSD 80GB for over two years now. Haiku has always run great for me on my machines: Toshiba NB305, Aspire One, Toshiba Satellite C670, Compaq Desktop.

My old Dells used Compact-Flash cards with an adapter and also had no problems.

Haiku unlike Windows rarely writes to the drive if you are not saving your data/files. Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Earl C Pottinger) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542876 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542876 I just made a short howto:

http://techmonks.net/installing-haiku-directly-to-a-disk-partition/ Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (evert) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542900 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542900 It's been a while since I've played with Haiku (sadly), but it's a fairly simple process unless things have changed drastically. In broad strokes:

1) Setup a partition on the drive.

2) Write a Haiku image to a thumb drive & boot from it.

3) In Haiku, open the Installer application.

4) Choose the thumbdrive as the source & the new partition as the destination.

5) Run the install.

The installer application was one of my favourite things about BeOS, you could use it to copy the contents of one drive to another (I often used it as a backup tool/poor man's Ghost). The install CD literally just booted into BeOS, with a customized bootscript that ran the installer instead of the desktop.

But I digress... Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (StephenBeDoper) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542901 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542901 How about the machines which can't boot from USB and still have a floppy drive? Could a boot floppy be created with the updated code and allow booting Haiku to perform an install from the CD-ROM?

The T4x series did not have a floppy drive but could boot from an USB floppy. There are probably many other laptops from the same era which could do the same. And a boot-floppy is a lot smaller to download then a CD-ROM image even if it is compressed.

It is excellent that the Haiku team figured the issue out and fixed it quickly. I had downloaded R1A4 had had problems with systems which had no issues with R1A3. Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (BlueofRainbow) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread?542941 http://www.osnews.com/thread?542941 I would write something about it, if there was any hints necessary to give. Just dd the iso to a cdrom and install haiku on the T42. Everything worked from boot up!

This heavily depends on the available drivers of course. Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (comrad) Comments