http://www.osnews.com/story/3631/Analysis_Windows_2003_What_s_Next_ Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2010, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:28:17 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Why? Because Apple is just an R&D shop for Microsoft. Whatever Apple does, Microsoft will also most likely do, only at a later date.

- Mark Fri, 23 May 2003 20:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Does anybody has more information what they mean with "self-healing management system"? Fri, 23 May 2003 21:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "self-healing management system"

Isn't it an IBM thing? Fri, 23 May 2003 21:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This is last era for M$ C# failure has produiced F#.
All the F#king innovation is running into a wall consumers are smart they know all M$ is doing is renaming products with F#ing marketing to make revenue.

Linux and Java is F#king making Bill Gates shit in his pants Fri, 23 May 2003 22:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? yes, it is an IBM thing. I am willing to bet that this "self healing" system will not be ready for realy useful exploitation until about 2010. Fri, 23 May 2003 22:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? One would think that this technique, abused so often, would no longer work, and therefore no longer would be used. Fri, 23 May 2003 22:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Yes it is... My iSeries box can look at what software is installed, call IBM and check to see if any new fixes have been release and it can install them (or just notify me that they've been downloaded).

The system also keeps an eye on itself and notifies IBM if something fails at the system level and does a self bug report. The IBM server will then compare that bug report to it's database and send back fixes if any or turn it over to a person to review and see if the engineers can find out with it failed. (Please note, that most failures wont bring down the system and most of the time they're just warnings in the system logs.) Once a fix has been verified they'll send it back.

This is great on a big server... I just wonder how MSFT is going to do it. I don't think they would want to be swamped with bug reports; if MSFT looks at all the minor issues like IBM does, then they'll be looking at about 3 issues per week per machine. (with 95% of the desktop market, they'll swamp themselfs it minutes of enabling it) IBM only has it enabled for the Big machines which is only around 1,000,000 machines (its optional so this number may be a little high). Fri, 23 May 2003 22:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Why is "Joe user" interested in digital rights management?
Or for that matter and OS that tracks his activities?

Wouldn't that be a reason NOT to choose an operating system? Fri, 23 May 2003 22:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Joe user isn't. He doesn't give a rats ass about DRM because he even doesn't know what it is.
As long as his computer works he's happy. Fri, 23 May 2003 23:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ...is "not spending money." I haven't seen many companies eager to keep throwing dollars at IT. Most of them want to buy something and run the wheels off it. That's why so many NT servers are still going. I think Server 2003 is headed for a long, slow rollout. Sat, 24 May 2003 00:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows 2009 will actually have an UNINSTALL that works. Sat, 24 May 2003 03:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "This is great on a big server... I just wonder how MSFT is going to do it. I don't think they would want to be swamped with bug reports; if MSFT looks at all the minor issues like IBM does, then they'll be looking at about 3 issues per week per machine. (with 95% of the desktop market, they'll swamp themselfs it minutes of enabling it) IBM only has it enabled for the Big machines which is only around 1,000,000 machines (its optional so this number may be a little high). "

I'm sure MS could handle it. Also I doubt they would let everything go great guns the first day they throw the switch. The could throttle the amount of bug reports and ramp it up with time as things goes. Figure most would be dupes, so let the system grow some with a smaller amount of computers and then when it takes more reports it knows how to handle them. Also it would make the base product better in time. It would be a highly active bug test on production machines. A year of that kind of constant fead back could be impressive. I realize what your talking about is more of an App and settings thing, but even that will help. Sat, 24 May 2003 05:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Why? Because Apple is just an R&D shop for Microsoft. Whatever Apple does, Microsoft will also most likely do, only at a later date.


I hate comments like that. Apple can control hardware. Thus, they have much more control over there software.

For example, Quarz Extreme requires that you have a 32 MB video card. Thus, if you want the support - your Mac must be new enough to have a supporting video card or you will have to upgrade yourself (which will most likely void your warranty). How can Microsoft mandate such a thing like this with so many clone PC out there. The point is, THEY CANT. So what Microsoft will have to do is when there is a large enough portation of exist machine that have a powerful enough graphic card (e.g. 32 MB) they will then release a Quartz Extreme LIKE technology.

People always seem to forget that Apple is a hardware company that just so happens make there own OS for there hardware.

This is the reason why you will never see a x86 version (e.g. Malkar) of Mac OS X. The only way is if somehow Apple could config something specific in x86 so that only Apple would know what it was resulting you having to person a PC clone through them (with this modified config adjusted).

Just my $0.02 USD Sat, 24 May 2003 05:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Isn't that where you just leave the install CD in the drive and reinstall every time you boot the computer? Sat, 24 May 2003 05:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Exactly, smart boy. MS got ALL of its server stuff from Apple... - not. *lol* Sat, 24 May 2003 08:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Euhh..like Ximian Red-Carpet? Sat, 24 May 2003 08:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I think also that there are a number of companies in money crunch and from past experiences with Microsoft products, they don't want to make another mistake believing that this "could be the one".

Microsoft for many years promoted their NT line as "the one" and as a result companies now are unsure what direction they should take.

Now, I am not saying that their Windows 2003 line is terrible, however, people are taking a more careful approach to new upgrades than they did in the "booming 1990's".

With this new found "technological conservatism", we may actually find an increase in UNIX sales, mainframes and a small increase in Linux sales as companies step back and decide to take the more conservative patch and assign Linux to the smaller, less mission critical jobs. Sat, 24 May 2003 10:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "Without an upgrade, corporations can expect to be in a holding pattern"

Translation in plain english : " corporations data will be accessible again only after paying a ransom to Microsoft"

"a platformwide self-healing management system"

Translation in plain english : "the Microsoft developers smoked too much dope", or, "yet another vaporware". Sat, 24 May 2003 12:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I heard that the next version of Windows (the one with the DirectX GUI, I think it's NT6?) will require a 128MB DX9-compliant video card and that it won't support legacy stuff like ISA and PCI (because it'll be out when PCI-Express will be out)...

Note that I only heard this. Maybe that's only BS. Sat, 24 May 2003 20:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hardware requirements of next version of Windows:

1. Video camera that cannot be turned off. If you block its view, an alert is sent to the local authorities.

2. Microphone that cannot be turned off, similar to above.

3. Fingerprint scanner.

4. Retina scanner.

5. Voice analyzer for online polygraph.

6. Non-user accessible secure hard drive that only the OS can decrypt and use.

7. Smart Card reader for new generation of debit and credit cards. Sun, 25 May 2003 06:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "Hardware requirements of next version of Windows:

1. Video camera that cannot be turned off. If you block its view, an alert is sent to the local authorities. "

Who cares, I'll plug it out or cut the cable.

"2. Microphone that cannot be turned off, similar to above."

I don't even use one...and if it needs one I'll just plug my cd-player in and put my Metallica CD in to play "Master of puppets" again and again...

"3. Fingerprint scanner. "

I'll buy a finger from the local University...

"4. Retina scanner."

They can scan my blue contact lenses...

"5. Voice analyzer for online polygraph. "

Again, they can listen to "Master of puppets." AND I don't lie...(LoL).

"6. Non-user accessible secure hard drive that only the OS can decrypt and use."

I guess I have no choice...

"7. Smart Card reader for new generation of debit and credit cards."

I don't buy on-line...

Where you struck by paranoia? Or are you paranoic?
There will be always an alternative OS, and if not, I'll make my own... Sun, 25 May 2003 07:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? If you interfere with Microsoft Windows Citizen Safety and Security Platform (MWCSSP) hardware, you will be flagged as a potential terrorist, thrown into a holding tank, and investigated. You are likely never to be seen again.

By the way, I am only listing hardware that Microsoft has discussed in various forums with the government and banks. So don't be surprised when your new Windows system has the 'security' and 'safety' features that I've listed. Sun, 25 May 2003 07:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments