http://www.osnews.com/story/3737/Poll_Vote_for_the_Hardware_You_Always_Desired Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:48:58 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? One day i'll have that NeXT Cube i've always promised myself. Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Me and JBQ found last year at WeirdStuff a NeXTSTation, for only $200. But unfortunately, the monitor wouldn't come ON, so we didn't purchase it... I always wanted a NeXT too... We already have a BeBox (haven't turned it on for about 2 years now). Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well, if not SGI, I'd definitely choose unix-brained woman just because it's a very witty choice indeed! Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I almost bought one iBook another day... but here in the Brazil, the price is in U$1,900 Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? of course she would be running NetBSD 1.6-current Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Forgot to say, last year, because of OSNews, I was able to test two SGI workstations and a Sun machine for two months (loaned by SGI and Sun, I don't have them anymore). I liked the SGI machine, the Fuel. Cool stuff, powerful machine and IRIX really runs fast. I was not so impressed with Solaris on that $3,000 Sun workstation (Sun Blade 150), Gnome was _really_ slow on it. Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? NeXT Cube

I want one. More than I want an SGI Octane... but if I couldn't find either, I'd go for any Alpha machine I could find. Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? BTW, I guess I got the hardware I really needed (as opposed to "want") just last Friday. My husband bought for my birthday a 21" SONY e-540 monitor. It arrived two weeks later, but hey. Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I want a laptop that is :

1. Very Small... a 10.x" monitor is ok
2. Can run Linux
3. Long battery life .. 6+ hours... maybe you can take the cdrom drive out an add an extra battery
4. fairly fast ... say 600Mhz
5. consume very little power (a Transmeta cpu is ok)
6. cdrom drive
7. 10/100 ethernet, 2 usb ports and 802.11b/g wireless built in
8. Atleast a 10GB hard drive and 256MB ram

All for $1500.... well I can hope... Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Here you are darling:
http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?serie... (check the whole "P Series" range on the left, there are more such models to see) Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? AIX on a Power4...oh baby....:-) Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Oh my god, just look at these juicy workstations at sgi.com... Someone give me another $50,000... Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Give me stable, silent, fast enough hardware for a moderate price that isn't owned and controlled by a single company please, thank you. So I voted faster/better PC, where you could strike out the "faster" because my PC is already fast enough for me and it's not even half as fast as a PC could be.
Oh and my most important secret hardware desire is actually a notebook. Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I want a small, cheap, battery powered device that records uncompressed 16bit 44.1k audio with better than 80db snr, onto 512mb cfdisks. Built in stereo omni electrets would be nice but not essential.
Unfortunately, nothing like this exists.

Other than that, a 2mb pentium pro 200 chip to make mine a dual! Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I guess she'd be very emotionally stable, but you'd have to use intricate psychological manipulation to get her to do anything... Hopefully no-one gets a remote root...:)


Nice poll. SGI all the way! Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Yummmyyy! Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? definatly the Unix Brained woman, true about emotionally stable, but i can fsck, finger, mount, etc... all i need.. and if somebody gets root access remotly, it would be logged... though.. the bad side is, that if they got in remotly, and changed my access codes, no more access for me, possibly under normal user account, but my prividges would be restricted....

cheers, actually, it would be an uber fast Mac... oh wait... doesnt exist, i'll stick with unix brained woman, Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'd like a BeBox first, and then a Mac...

a SGI box would be awesome too Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? btw, no offence intended, just adding a bit of controversy, all in all, i have great respect for my better half (damn straight) hehe, anyways, off to work, see what gets started by the mac comment later

Markymark.... speeding up the day on osnews... over and out,

sound rather obnoxious dont i, oh well, bugger! Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? search no further: http://www.remote.org/jochen/projects/jvc/ Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This 15" titanium powerbook may have put me in debt, but it's even better than I expected.

-hugh Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? So I could do interactive home shopping while I'm watching television!

Riiight, just kidding :-) Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Only "officially" available in japan, just way too much expensive. But what a toy !!!

http://www.dynamism.com/u3/main.shtml Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Alpha have always been my favorite architecture. I can't believe its not an option. It might be more or less dead but so is the rest of the options Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I forgot it. Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? BeBox, everyone needs a BeBox. Followed close behind by a NeXT Cube. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? A guy I worked with said he saw one of the black cubes with a monochrome monitor on sale a at a local goodwill. I don't recall if he mentioned a price for it.

I'm kinda sad I didn't actually go down there to look at it, if anything those were cool and stylish. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hi
I love hardware, so I have quite a nice collection of stuff from this list.

NeXSTation with NeXTos -> Got it.
Bebox -> Don't got it, but have a 4-way PPC Genesis MP running beosppc
SGI with IRIX -> Got it. Made many quicktime movies with the built in camera, cool. BTW, for everyone who wants one, EBAY has some low end SGIs (INDYs) for 29$ (from seller lucite-backlite
HP with HPUX -> Got three of them for serious Fiber channel network office stuff.
Sparc with Solaris -> Got two of those too
IBM with AIX -> Got one of the Motorola powerstations that run AIX or WINNT (PPC version)
And to add to the list, Dec Alphas (three) and many mips boxes.

In fact, I have the 4 architectures that would run winnt4.0.
Alpha, MIPS, PPC and of course i386. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'd like to have an Itanium2 workstation Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? if mac's went so expensive i could see myself and all other geeks having one Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I am using IE6 and can't vote, I tried Mozilla before and that too didn't work.

Has the polling been switched off. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Yeah, G5, hell yeah. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? A NeXT cube and an Atari Falcon could also be nice.

Prog. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? BTW, I guess I got the hardware I really needed (as opposed to "want") just last Friday. My husband bought for my birthday a 21" SONY e-540 monitor. It arrived two weeks later, but hey.


I guess all screenshots for now on will be super huge

But my little 17" SONY E200 with its 1024x768 resolution...I guess I'll have to scroll the window

;D Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Just the fastest and best laptop currently on the market, with great screen resolution and clarity.

Damn University fees and expensive cost of Laptops in Australia. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? No the poll is still active. Maybe someone with the same IP address with you on a sub-network has already voted. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Damn they're sexy! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? take a look at this beast:
http://www.psionusa.com/PersonalMobility/Netbook/index.html
should be a beauty Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I just couldn't say no to a "being" which would have Monica Bellucci's body and a full Unix programmable brain (running FreeBSD current of course, and waiting for that multithread support for more tricks!! :-D). Of course If Monica isn't available I could be happy with some other "models"!

PS: Eugenia, can I send you a list? Of course (if you don't mind) I want to do the review for the "product". Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Don't know if I'd want a woman who was "Open Source" Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've got Macs, I have a NeXT black hardware workstation, but I want an honest to goodness BeBox!!

Ms. Eugenia, you have a BeBox you haven't turned on in two years??????? How about a trade? Here's what I have and it's all in very good condition:

-33 MHz Slab

-17" black NeXT color monitor

-External Sony CD ROM

-Sound Box

-NeXT keyboard and mouse

-2 GB Quantum hard drive

-128 MB RAM

-The always hard to get NeXT Color Printer!! And cartridges are still available.

-Tons and tons of NeXT software, including system software (of course) and all Lighthouse Design apps with serial numbers. So much software I can't even begin to enumerate it.

-The always welcome and hard to get NeXT Administration manuals!

-If you want them, the "regular" manuals...Getting Started, General Reference, etc. I have everything.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, I would trade all that for a working BeBox with usable software!! :-) Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I always wanted a atari falcon. Their still to expensive to get one on ebay.
An Amiga 4000Tower would be cool to. They are still really expensive
on ebay. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? A super fast PC that I can start Open Office in less than 3 seconds - this isn't a tall call, huh ? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? >Don't know if I'd want a woman who was "Open Source"

Nobody said "Linux", we said "unix". IRIX would be nice though. And it ain't open source.

>How about a trade?

Unfortunately, my husband won't give up his BeBox even if he never turns it on.. I would personally go for a NeXT exchange to be honest... Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "Unfortunately, my husband won't give up his BeBox even if he never turns it on.. I would personally go for a NeXT exchange to be honest..."

Rats!! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 01:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Been drooling over the Hush Mini-ITX PCs for awhile now. Planning on using it as a silent server for my dev work but linux support isn't so hot just yet. VIA get your Linux act together already!!! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 01:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Eugenia, JBQ would be unmoved if you constantly sang the praises of NeXT and also how he doesn't need that old dusty BeBox anymore??? ;-) Mon, 09 Jun 2003 01:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hmmm.... this puts me into temptation!
technically IRIX, Solaris, AIX, and MacOS X are UNIX... but I wouldn't put any one of them in a woman --- man... imagine if she could kill a job :eek: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 01:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? should i buy an ibook, powerbook or a centrino?
need something less than 1500 dollars. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 01:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? How about a PDP-10? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've decided that my ideal machine, with current OS and hardware availiability, is a Hush (www.hushtechnologies.net) running gentoo. Still not quite perfect because of some of the warts of Linux, plus some of the driver deficiencies with that machine, but as close to ideal as I can currently find.

With Linux it's just a matter of, first, configuring it just right, then, second, leaving the damn thing alone :p.

I never am able to resist temptation to tinker however and therefore stage 2 doesn't last too long. Oh well.

Erik Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well, you may be limited to the iBook. The 12" PowerBook starts at $1599. I'm not sure about the Centrino, but aren't they pretty expensive, being new and everything? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? If this poll is all about a hackers dream macinhes..then cray it is!... i bet you can run doom 3 in software mode with one of those big boys!!! and compile a linux kernel at the same time.....and probably run Mac OS and BeOS an XP in some kind of virtual machine/emulator Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Erik, at the Hush site, are those Euros or English Pounds they're using? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Here you go Eugenia...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2734270183&a... Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'd take the Cray, sell it, then buy everything else on the list, a house, 5 new cars, bionic eyes, and Thailand. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I just found that Gateway has a crazy cheap laptop with a 2.2 Celeron! Check their homepage! There are a few cheaper laptops around, but they are the Elite ones, that don't have PCMCIA neither battery. This Gateway 400SP laptop is very sweet and full featured for $799.
http://gateway.com/home/prod/hm_400sppl_proddetail.shtml (customize it to get the normal 1-year warranty and tell the customizer you don't want a bag to get to that price) Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? A NeXT Cube would be cool, running NeXT on a 400Mhz x86 with 128 Mb of memory is much better for me, same goes for a BeBox. The Unix - brained woman is pure vaporware. I'd never be able to afford any application software an SGI machine is suited for, same goes for AIX and HP-UX. I'll never personally buy another x86 machine unless it's to replace one that fails, but I don't just want any Mac, I want a Core Crib.

http://www.2khappyware.com/corecrib.html

http://www.bayerwerke.com/Whymacsarebetter.swf

If you go to the trouble to figure out what movie the soundtrack is from and what is actually said and why it was said in the movie, it a perfect explanation. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "BTW, I guess I got the hardware I really needed (as opposed to "want") just last Friday. My husband bought for my birthday a 21" SONY e-540 monitor. It arrived two weeks later, but hey. "

Congrats! I just moved from a tiny 15 inch to a nice new 19 inch monitor. I'd like to get a second 19inch. Dual montiors makes video editing a lot easier.

btw, happy birthday Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Obviously you must not be too current with the depreciation rates for CRAYs . Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I had a NeXT cube. I sold it a year ago. Nice machine, but I never used it. It was funny- the OS felt about as fast as OS X 10.2 does on my iBook G3/500. But then again, the platform was dead.

Sincei t wasn't in the list, I'll go ahead and put my vote in for the hardware I desire. I would like either:
a. A new Newton MP3000 platform with a 600 MHz XScale PXA 255, 128 MB of Flash storage, and 16 MB of object heap. (sounds like a little, but it's a lot- the 2100 had about 400k of what one would consider "RAM" and it did pretty well!) Res would have to be 800x480 or so, physicalscreen size being about the same as a 2100s, but without all the weight and bulk "framing" the screen. Running Newton OS 3.0, of course!

b. Failling that, I'd settle for a Samsung Nexio S160 running Dynapad R1.0. Unlike the Newton, this PDA does exist- 400 MHz XScale, 128 MB RAM, 800x480x16 badass screen, built-in Wifi, WinCE.NET 4.0. I'd sell my Jornada 720 and iBook and buy one... except it costs $1250 at Dynamism. Whew- too rich for my blood! I'd almost do it if it had a 600 MHz PXA255 tho- the S160 only has a PXA250 400 MHz, not much faster than my Jornada 720.

http://www.dynamism.com/nexio/index.shtml Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm surprised that Crays aren't faring too well on the poll. I know that I would LOVE having that much computing power at my fingertips. Of course, not much runs on it so I don't know what I'd do with it. But just having one would be pretty cool. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The Big Lebowski

Confrontation at the bowling alley with Jesus. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Seeing as I've got a NeXT Cube with NeXTSTEP and an SGI Indy with Irix, I went for the BeBox. I win! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? that's all, NO, i mean it! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? that's all, NO, i mean it!

Anybody want a peanut?

//===
I was hoping to see some fantasy-choices, like OpenBeOS on G5.

Hmm... well, I suppose runner-up would've been linux on PPC, but I've got a Pismo Powerbook (G3) and tried YDL but couldn't get dual display working. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 03:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Not so fast:

I raise your Cube to a Turbo cube + NeXTDimension (with OpenStep ), your Indy to an Octane, and..... what is that I see in the closet? Oh yeah an original 603 BeBox.

House wins Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? the unix-powered chick for me. running her KDE/GNOME2 with a "sexy" look and feel is a pretty cool idea... Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My vote was for a Mac because of actual usefulness. High-end, giant monitor, optical accessories, the works.

I finally got Solaris to install on a PC, so that's not really a "need."

As far as additions to my computer "accumulation" I'd love a BeBox and NextCube (color of course). And it's about time for a new PC. 3+ ghz, two monster hard drives, 21" Trinitron...

As for a trade offer, bring a truck. I've got about 15 old Macs, a couple IBM XTs, a stack of 486es, etc.

A poll choice you missed, "Remodel third floor to make room for current computer toys."

-Bob Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hehe, everyone bitches about them, they are supposedly going to die, and steve jobs sucks in bed.... but secretly everyone wants one Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? is a head mounted display a la the hackers movie... have it be a tilted glass that covers the eye but is seethrough and it's image is projected from the side. Have it with wireless capabilities so it plays nice with a pda or other computer device without messy wires... Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ..> Anybody want a peanut?

NO, i don't like it, i like butter...

hmm, PS3 or GSCUBE.
PS3 1000(!) times faster than the PS2.
http://www.psreporter.com/playstation_3_news.html

intel, mac, ibm, sony likes me, when i pick PS3... Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've had sparcs with solaris , next boxes with nextstep ... so now I have my iBook and I'm actually really happy with it Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? some of you have a very bad sense of humor! where's the "a man with unix-brain OS" option? no, that wouldn't work, their brains couldn't handle it. ^_^

and i bet you 198 people wonder why you don't have girlfriends... Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? some of you have a very bad sense of humor! where's the "a man with unix-brain OS" option? no, that wouldn't work, their brains couldn't handle it. ^_^

and i bet you 198 people wonder why you don't have girlfriends...

Heh, men are more like a c64 with BASIC. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Atari Falcon 040 of Atari Microbotix (protoypes were ready but they never went to production) Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I don't know what OS she runs, but I bet she makes some pretty good waffles. Good figure for a late model robot too. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Tyr wrote:
Heh, men are more like a c64 with BASIC.

You give us way to much credit!

They should put up another poll that says: If you were a computer what would you be?

I think I would be some strange hyrid between a Apple II
and a Intellivision. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Why is a woman included in a poll on hardware ? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Actually, I usually wonder why I DO have a girlfriend, and an EXTREMELY gorgeous one at that. If she had a Unix brain, I would tell her what to do instead of the opposite. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Why did you put so much non-sense questions there..? -- There is enough reasonable stuff, yet difficult to reach for many people like an SCSI RAID subsystem, a *real* graphics card costing a fortune, water-cooling for all components and what not. Instead, half of the the poll is non-sense, half is serious, so the whole exercise is worth nothing. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 06:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? People secretly desiring a Better PC- bad choice, as everyone wishes PC's were better.

People secretly desiring a mac- This poll is for what you want, not what you have. Read more carefully

People desiring the girl- be carefull what you wish for- Linux brains is pretty high maintenance if you ask me

And finally, the cray. what? Only if you are a super geek and can put all of its cycles to good use should you choose this.

Thie other options seem like good geeky choices. As for me, i'm happy with my "mini-me". Mon, 09 Jun 2003 06:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I believe it's Euro's, since Hush is a German company. However, if you buy it through their distributor, www.mini-itx.com, they are British and use British pounds (wonder when they're gonna switch -- oh well). BUT -- FEAR NOT, because in their customization screen, on the upper right corner, is a box called "Reckoner" where you can choose pounds, euro's, or even those dollars that those backwards Americans use (that's me).

http://www.mini-itx.com/store/config.asp?system=hush

I've even confirmed that they'll ship it to Hawai'i. So it's like five weeks to get to the UK, from Germany, then probably another month from there to here. By then of course they will have something twice as fast, for half the price, but the dollar will have plummeted agains the Euro so much more by then, it'll still cost me double. Or something like that. But it's worth it dammit!

Erik Mon, 09 Jun 2003 06:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I voted for BeBox, but the it was really hard to decide. I would also like a fast Amiga and a Fast PowerMac.

Those Fujitsu Lifebooks look really cool -- they have everything I would want in a laptop especially light weight and long battery life. I think the idea of using a touchscreen on the P1000 series is pretty cool.

What I think would be a cool *system* would be a central server and gateway hooked up to broadband internet serving a household full of mp3/game devices(xbox or ps2)/pda's/subnotebook computers with a wireless network. You could use them in whichever room to download and play games stored centrally on the server, single player or head to head; choose and watch movies; surf the internet. That would be cool. And the tech is available today, I just don't have the $$$ to purchase the equipment. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 06:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? hmm first time I've seen someone from hawaii on here. I was also thinking about getting that hush pc as I have the original EPIA 800 and it's just not cutting it so if you could maybe drop me a line on your thoughts about it after you get it that'd be great Mon, 09 Jun 2003 07:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I raise your Cube to a Turbo cube + NeXTDimension (with OpenStep ), your Indy to an Octane, and..... what is that I see in the closet? Oh yeah an original 603 BeBox.

Ah, but my cube is running an '040 and an '030 board simultaneously with an NeXT Dimension, I've got a Turbo Slab, a Centris 650 modded to a 1U case running A/UX, and a horrible Matrox-made Laserdisc player/286 dwelling in my closet. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 07:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "Ah, but my cube is running an '040 and an '030 board simultaneously with an NeXT Dimension, I've got a Turbo Slab, a Centris 650 modded to a 1U case running A/UX, and a horrible Matrox-made Laserdisc player/286 dwelling in my closet."

The force is strong with you little grasshoper, however the powerchallenge we have in our garage would crush them all into oblivion.... literally.

Did you do the mod to the 030 board so you can use it as slave (of sorts)? I have a 040 spare here and as soon as I have sometime I will go ahead and try to do the same. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Did you do the mod to the 030 board so you can use it as slave (of sorts)?

Since the 68030 doesn't have the NBIC chip on it (big empty socket over in the corner), it can't tell that the NeXTBUS is even there, so only the modification of the backplane to set the ID of the slot the 030 board into to 0 was necessary. I don't know if it's possible with an 040 board (since it can see the bus) but the modification of the backplane is easy and reversible so it never hurts to try..
I have the '030 netbooting over the thinnet with console from board to board on serial A.

I have a feeling my Matrox:
http://www.laserdiscarchive.co.uk/laserdisc_archive/matrox/matrox_e...
would put up the good fight to your PowerChallenge. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? An AWESOME new Dell laptop. 15.4" WSXGA+ Screen (The best they offer and it's WIDE SCREEN!!!) GeForce 4Go with 64MB of RAM, 512MB in 2 DIMMS, 30GB HD, built-in 10/100 NIC, Modem and Built-in Wireless 802.11b/g Mini-PCI card!!!

The works for the low low price of $2100 (There abouts)

The OS will be WinXP Professional, then the thing will be paritioned into two and Linux will also reside upon the little beast...

It will be a bad-ass LAN party/weekend getaway DVD-watching Kick-ass little Laptop. It's even powerful enough to 'replace' my main workstation, save that it doesn't have Firewire and a few other nice little gadgets that endear me to my workstation.

w00t! w00t! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hey , many guys say : "..give me...". So ) please, give me too ,the recent Mac Laptop with double processor and 2GB ram. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I already have:

SGI /Irix
Sun /Solaris
HP /HP-UX
Alpha /Linux
+ some PC's, I suppose.

I guess my 'secret' want is for a powerbook (the rest anyone that knew me could infer), and despite the cost associated with the above systems when new, it's the one thing I can't afford, considering to run it properly with its own "unix" needs something comparatively new and expensive, quite unlike the others.

In fact, anyone who has seriously voted for any of the above list indeed _can_ get them, you just have to set your expectations appropriately and be willing to do some research.

I guess what I really want though is more and bigger Alpha systems. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 12:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? there was no option for a Small U60 with dual 450mhz Sparc III ....

NeXT, got one, tryed to use it, sold it (ever tried to compile recent GNU utils on a 33Mhz 68040 ?).

Sparc, got an U30 dua 20" screen, 350Mhz SPARC III and Solaris 9 ... its dead stable, its nice, but it is sloooooooowww (but so pretty ;-) ).

PCs well got a few (including laptop) but I'm more than bored of the random harware conflicts, IDE misbehaviour and all PC niceties particularisms.

Mays be I should try Macs, but OS X seems as slow as Solaris and the idea of a "lone button" mouse ...duh. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 12:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Along with my AthlonXP 1600 and my Pentium 4 2200 laptop, I own a SPARCstation4 which I use as a firewall/proxy server. Currently awaiting the arrival of an Ultra 5 which I plan to use as a workstation. It's hard not to crave those Blade 2000s though. SPARC hardware is a pleasure to upgrade and modify. Those days of snapping out slots from the front of your x86 case to install a HDD, CD-ROM or whatever are gone. Everything is beautifully and rigidly engineered to slide together beautifully.

Even the Sun keyboards/mouses tap and click more smoothely. I have one which I have had since 1996 and used daily until late last year (I caved in and bought one of the new ones) that I still use from time to time which has never had a key give up. Thats right, 1996!

Oh yeah, and on SPARC, Solaris is one damn fine OS Mon, 09 Jun 2003 12:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I would love a power hours SGI box, & a 17" Powerbook to run LInux on! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 12:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I meant HORSE,

I already have 2 sparc, 1 HP, and 4 IBM compatible box's running Linux and 1 windows for my wife.

I want SGI! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 12:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? too bad DEC Alpha was forgotten, I wouldn't mind at all one of those 1.2GHz 21364 machine with 2GB of RAM.

btw, would be neato to have a way to view the poll results without having to vote twice.. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 13:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I have to confess to being very interested in an Ultra 60 myself (to augment 2 single CPU systems I've previously acquired). Of all the "unix" hardware UltraSPARC may well be the slowest but there is something about Sun hardware and equipment that I do particularly like (as I sit typing this on a Sun Ray 150 - for the uninitiated, a glorified completely dumb X terminal). SPARC/Solaris is quite unique in its own way, and I can see myself buying more in the future. It's true Sun's Gnome 2 is slow, but it is usable, but do concede I might have less patience if I'd bought new and not from ebay. There are other UI's for it however (even KDE, or Ximian's Gnome which is reputed to be considerably faster), and I find CDE sufficient most of the time - except for when it has too look impressive, naturally.

Alphas are my main interest but I class them differently - an obsession. As for 21364's and Blade 2K's, there's little point dreaming about things I can't have, I'll just buy their little brothers, which are all still eminently capable and well manufactured machines. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 14:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i always wanted a sparc/solaris machine. . . i'm using 2 Sun Fire V880 servers at work and i do NOT want these crap anymore. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I want to go back to when computers worked and evolved. Do some research...you'll see what I mean. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My _dream_ (dream, dream, dream) machine is a computer that I can put in my shirt pocket.

* It should weigh less than half a pound.
* Not have an MS OS or any other MS software/hardware
* OS should be massivily pre-emptive multi-tasking. Meaning that OS, apps, and all processes should be multi-tasking.
* At least 4 CPUs (better to have 4 slightly slower CPUs than one fast CPU.
* Have at least a 200gb hard drive.
* Viewing would be by LCD glasses which would allow you to look at your data while also seeing everything else so you could drive, walk, etc.
* Input would be by voice control or attachable, foldable keyboard.
* Computer should have a powerful enough CPU and graphics to do high end 3D work while also playing MP3s.

That's a good start... Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Let's see, what I have... SGI O2 with 1600SW, Mac G4 Cube w/17" Studio Display, dual-processor Wintel box w/1600SW, dual-processor Ultra 60 w/21" monitor. 64-bit Alpha system cobbled up from bits off of eBay. What should I get next??? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Erik, Hush is about the coolest (pun intended;-) thing since the Apple Cube which, unless you have processor and graphics card upgrades with fans, is also silent because of the convection cooling. Do you know if there are any things to be sure to know about, such as the voltage (because of the differences here and over there), odd monitor problems and that type f thing? Thanks! Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? your own scrapyard Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Let's take some Cray hardware and cram it in a BeBox, patch that 1GB ram limit in BeOS, and BAM - a machine so responsive, it may warp time-space itself! Imagine a SMP machine running 16 CPUs peaking at 204.8 Gflops on the most responsive OS there is... ....Oooooooh.

The geekport (BeBox) was the most amazing little idea - the last sign of real innovation I've seen in ages. Not new, fancy, bells&whitles technology, but simple end-user techno-junkie friendly features. It had something like 16 digital I/O ports and 8 ANALOG I/O (I think, never had a BeBox). C'mon THAT is cool! Doorbell, coffeemaker, alarm clock, remote control, thermometer, whatever your little heart desires. I've been looking for a 'geekport' expansion card for a regular PC, but alas - this animal lives no more.

And a CPU-usage LED meter on the case SHEEAAT!! How could we have let them go out of business? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 18:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Matthew, what do you think of the inexpensive 150 Blade Workstation for someone to get intoduced to Solaris, etc.? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 19:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I would just pickup a Ultra 5 or 10 from ebay if your just using it at home to learn, it would save you some $. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 19:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? mmm... watchen das blinkenlichten Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I've always wanted an Alpha, why was there no "other" option on the poll? Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? hmmm, or maybe an UltraSParc Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I 100% agree with you nitrile, Sparcs have something. But well I use mine as my main workstation, I've been using CDE (hate it), E16 (quite nice, not quick), and Sun Gnome 2 (slow but I'm still using it).

The reasons why I love this kind of machine ? Beside its look, it never behaves unexpectedly, it is simply running, no surprise, no "unexplained" behaviour that PC hardware is so fond of.

But I really find Solaris slow, I mean I have a NetBSD 166Mhz pentium/128Mb ram that feel more responsive than my Solaris9/USparc II350Mhz/768Mb ram .

May be is it some latency settings .....

Regarding Alphas well one of those quadri-EV5 ... why not, I ran AlphaLinux for sometime on an old Mikasa some years ago, quite fun.

But they do not have this Sun caché. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I want a Cray, a really big one always wanted a computer that would take up the space of a whole room.
But what i´m really dreaming about is a new amiga with a 2Ghz Motorola 68k CPU, not any of that PowerPC flamewar(AOS vs MorphOS), and 4GB ChipRam. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ...a difference engine.

There's just something about brass cogs that makes all these "electrical" things look so ameteurish. Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Reminds me of the time I saw a used Cray for sale on early usenet (make offer). I wrote the guy saying that as a CS student in the dorms there was no way I could afford or store it (much less run it), but details? He said he and a buddy put in a comically lowball offer at his company's auction and won (he said they paid between $5000 and $15000, this was when they originally cost millions). Said it, the terminals, diskpacks, and cooling plant would fit in half a standard boxcar if I wanted it .

These days I occasionally check Ebay for Crays, but as historic antiques they aren't cheap. Thanks for the fun poll Eugenia! =)

-MG Mon, 09 Jun 2003 22:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Solaris 9 on POWER 4+, only if.... Tue, 10 Jun 2003 00:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I want an iMac!!! Tue, 10 Jun 2003 01:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i want hardware which make another hardware!!!!
so i will be free from money, only except money wasted for first the machine!!!

then i will have any hardware that i want.. Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments