http://www.osnews.com/story/5327/Applications_You_Can_t_Live_Without Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:34:53 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Mac OS X
- Stickies
- iTem
- Terminal
- XTerm (I always runs all those terms at a time)
- AppKido
- GNUMail.app
- Vim
- Safari
- BitchX

GNU/Linux
- Terminal.app
- XTerm
- screen
- GNUMail.app
- Vim
- BitchX
- w3m
- GIMP

That's all... Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Nice, thanks for the list.
BTW, Safari and Terminal are not third party apps (even xterm comes by default now on Panther's 3rd CD Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? As a developer I can't live without these (Slackware):
- KDevelop
- MozillaFirebird
- Apache httpd
- MySQL
- Rsync

I prefer to compile apache and mysql thats why they are in the list Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Java

Freenet. I have to Check out Content of Evil.

Windows

Cd Ex or Exact Audio Copy For CD ripping

Lame (mp3) lossy encoding

Monkey's Audio lossless encoding(Might try FLAC or OptimFROG again).

TagScanner the Best and Easiest to use mp3 tag handler, better or as good as ArmyKnife for BeOS.

Kazaalite, MlDonkey, Shareaza, WinMX file trading

ASF Tools for treating stupid windows media files

Irfanview Image Viewer (it needs to know not to try to load mp3s and videos when I don't associate them)

Adaware gets rid of spyware crap

Mozilla The better browser TM

GIMP Image manipulation with a right click TM

WinRAR for zip and rar archives

AIM and yahoo instant messengers

Winamp for music

and Nero for CD creation and copying

NotepadEx Becasue MS Notepad sucks TM

VirtualDub, flask, Vidomi, and divx(and other codecs) for video conversion.

That's all I'll force you to read.

Now how about favorite websites? Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows

This is quite some while ago, so maybe some of these are obsolete now.

1. winzip/winrar
2. winamp
3. Mozilla Firebird
4. mirc/teamspeak/all seeing eye (aka "gaming tools")
5. gaim
6. The Gimp
7. jEdit or some other windows-only text editor which was pretty neat but I discovered it too late to use it a lot and now I forgot the name)
8. TheBat (also licensed, but the fact that I'm not even sure I'd still be able to find my key reminds me of how much I loathe proprietary software)
9. Getright
I think that's it.


Linux

Most comes with a default installation of Fedora/GNOME, with a few exceptions:

1. XQF (I don't like it, but it's the only choice)
2. Teamspeak (proprietary and ugly but very important)
3. The Nvidia driver installer (basically, that's an application :p)
4. The media players that aren't included in RedHat/Fedora for legal reasons (xmms mp3 plugin, rhythmbox with mp3 support, totem, mplayer)
5. Java and jEdit (though I'm trying to get away from this because it's a PITA, alternatives are rare though)
6. Red Carpet (no Fedora support yet for Ximian channels, but with Open Carpet it's a much more convenient alternative to yum)

And those are the standard apps that I'd get in any case:

5. Epiphany
6. Gaim
7. Xchat
8. Evolution
9. Gimp
11. OpenOffice

I don't use dedicated FTP tools anymore since both Nautilus and Explorer can handle FTP servers very well.
And the only download tool I use besides the one built into Epiphany is wget. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I only use linux, (even on my powerbook, although i used to be a beos junkie)...so here it goes

emacs (albiet standard on nearly every platform)
pgadmin3 for my postgresql work
anjuta
eclipse 2 & 3 with plugins
rythmbox
hping, fragroute, aide, hunt, opennms, etherape, and the rest of the packet crafting, analysis, vulnrability, etc.... which i use for the software i write at work.

~ chris Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? and obviously need some sleep. :p Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It is quite comprehensive, Eugenia. I myself do not reboot into BeOS often. (quite sad situation though)
But I must comment on that there's no MSN client on BeOS (at least usable yet)!

On FreeBSD, i also use gqview alot to view pictures It is quite usable for me. And rox the file manager is light-weight but quite good IMHO. How about DVDRip? awesome nifty tool for DVD users! To view pdf, i think acroread is still the better choice than gnome's default viewer. And as i'm not native english speaker (I am an asian lives in NZ) X input method is a must have for me as well.

Well.. the list goes on. I rekon I've installed too many packages on my desktop. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux :

1. Openoffice
2. Gkrellm2
3. K3b
4. AMSN, Licq and Psi
5. Gimp
6. MAME and ePSXe (just love gamin')
7. Tribes 2
8. MPlayer
9. Opera and Mozilla
10. Grip Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1. LaunchBar
2. LaunchBar
3. LaunchBar
4. LaunchBar
5. CanyBar
6. Transparent Dock
7. Konfabulator
8. Mplayer/VLC
9. Dock-it
10. iPhoto Buddy Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? On windows:
-Irfanview
-Kazaalite
-foobar
-emule
-Nero
-phpdev(apache+php+mysql packette)
-homesite
-Mozilla firebird
-Regcleaner
-Symatec antivirus client
Linux:
-Bluefish
-apache
-php
-mysql
-gaim
-Xfce
-Mozilla firebird
That's about it... Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux
1. KDE ;o) (no, seriously, it pretty much covers my needs)
2. Firebird
3. OO.org
4. gFtp
5. Opera (good to have when netiher Konqi nor Firebird can display a site) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? on Windows:

Mozilla
ZoneAlarm (no bloat, just works)
iTunes
Real Alternative (Play realmedia without the toxic waste which is realplayer)
Nero Burning ROM
Terrapin FTP
WinISO (ISO management - use for slipstreaming CDs)
ReGet (Downloader, far superior to DX) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1. BBEdit/Pagespinner
2. PHP
3. Photoshop
4. Illustrator
5. Transmit
6. Toast
7. mySQL
8. Ghost Recon :-D
9. TextEdit
10. Preview (PDF Viewer) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

1. Quake3
2. Mozilla Firebird
3. WinAMP and iTunes
4. Roxio CD Creator
5. Microsoft Office (Word, Excel)
6. Mathtype 5.1
7. Basilisk II
8. Putty
9. AOL Instant Messenger
10. Ad Aware

Mac OS X

1. NewsNetWire Lite
2. Adobe Acrobat Reader
3. Microsoft Office (Word, Excel)
4. BBedit
5. Roxio Toast Titanium
6. Quinn
7. RockNES
8. iTunes, QT, iChat, X11, Terminal, Safari, Stuffit Expander (all included with OS)
9. Quake 3
10. Transmit

Linux/UNIX:

1. Mozilla Firebird
2. Gnome and not KDE
3. Abiword, Gnumeric
4. Xchat
5. Gaim
6. Bash shell (on non-linux UNIXs)
7. GCC
8. Probably some more I can't think of right now

All of the above: JEdit

Eugenia posted a dead OS so I am going to post a dead OS of my own!

Mac OS 7 on a 68k Mac

1. Mathtype 3.7
2. Microsoft Word 5.1, Excel 5.0
3. Tons of old games, Prince of Persia, Arknoid, Monkey Island 1 &2, Fools' Errand, etc.
4. Mac Write 3.0
5. SuperClock
6. True Type fonts and printer driver
7. Open Transport
8. Appearance Manager
9. Gram•mat•ik Mac (Really good grammar checking program)
10. AOL Instant Messenger 4

Skipp Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux

Kopete
KMail
Konqueror
MPlayer
KAudioCreator
K3b
Emacs
KGet
OpenOffice
VMware Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows XP Pro:
Applications:
Acrobat Reader
Internet:
Gaim
Mozilla Firebird
mIRC
WS FTP
MSN Messenger
Yahoo! Messenger
BitTorret
Xnews
Multimedia:
Winamp 2
Quicktime
RealPlayer
VLC Player
iTunes
Divx Codec
Utilites:
TweakUI by Microsoft
WinRAR
SmartPAR
Nero
CloneCD
ISOBuster
Sun Java
Adware

I don't want to take the time to look up the BeOS one, I never had to format BeOS enough to know them all off hand...

I never really installed any 3rd party stuff in Mac OS X I just use whatever comes with it and install Microsoft Office.

Linux, I just use whatever comes with RedHat and that works for me, but of course...

Xmms-mp3 add on
Xine
Flash
Java

Thats about it. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1. Rox-Filer
2. Opera
3. XMMS
4. Gtk-Gnutella
5. Lopster
6. Abiword
7. Inkscape (inkscape.org)
8. Gaim
9. File-Roller
10. Totem
11. Xbindkeys (hocwp.free.fr/xbindkeys/)
12. Gimp
13. Gqview

Here is the problem though... Only 2 and 7 don't come w/ mandrake.. are they third party apps? I noticed you have the same problem Eugenia. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux: (using Fedora Core 1)
1. Evolution
2. Gaim
3. OpenOffice.org
4. Mozilla
5. wget
6. xmms
7. Mplayer
8. Gnome + all it's standard apps
9. Knoppix (so i cheated, this isn't an app)
10. All standard tools (ls, cp, mv, mount, etc) and the bash shell

Windows:
1. 7-Zip (www.7-zip.org)
2. Nero Burning ROM (www.nero.com)
3. Grisoft AVG Anti-Virus FREE (www.grisoft.com)
4. IrfanView (www.irfanview.com)
5. K-Lite Codec Pack (url skips around)
6. Mozilla (www.mozilla.org)
7. OpenOffice.org (www.openoffice.org)
8. PDFCreator (pdfcreator.sourceforge.net)
9. Winamp (www.winamp.com)
10. Yahoo! Messenger (messenger.yahoo.com)
11. UnxUtils (unxutils.sourceforge.net) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ...is that as soon as you make them you think of more app you can't like without.. I'm shocked I forgot screen, nano and checkinstall. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "8. Gnome + all it's standard apps
9. Knoppix (so i cheated, this isn't an app)
10. All standard tools (ls, cp, mv, mount, etc) and the bash shell"

Now these three are definitaly not third party apps :-P Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:
1.Emacs
2.Mozilla
3.foobar2000 (fantastic mp3 player)
4.Psi (jabber client)
5.IrfanView
6.EAC (CD ripping)
7.Soulseek;-)
8.Nero

Linux:
1.Emacs
2.Mozilla
3.Mplayer
4.Psi
5.Gnome
6.Mutt
7.K3b Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ...are as follows:

* 4OS2/4DOS (the main reason I can LIVE on the command line)
* Mozilla and Mozilla/Firebird
* Links (*not* lynx) -- what I'm using now to write this!
* Pine
* Yarn
* FTE
* Embellish
* FileJet
* ZIP/UNZIP from Info-ZIP
* FM/2
* Z! and PM123
* Leech/CDRecord/LAME/BladeEnc
* CD2MP3 PM
* Chris Wohlgemuth's Audio/Data CD Creator Objects
* NFTP
* StarOffice 5.1a
* Ami Pro/2 3.0b
* Quicken 8 for DOS/Quicken 98 for Windows
* ADRp 1.80
* Information Palace/PC File
* UPSMon
* Partition Magic/Drive Image
* Hummingbird Exceed's Virtual Desktop Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? >8. Gnome + all it's standard apps
>9. Knoppix (so i cheated, this isn't an app)
>10. All standard tools (ls, cp, mv, mount, etc) and the bash
> shell
>
> Now these three are definitaly not third party apps :-P

Hehe. Well, with #8 & #10, they're not part of the kernel. So I guess you can still consider them third party apps =D. With #9, Knoppix, I consider it third party since I use it as a tool for data recovery, migration, configuration, troubleshooting, etc. But that's just me =D Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? you forgot the part about being applications Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm glad that Abiword got a mention, but you missed out some other important ones:

Gnumeric, probably the best spreadsheet application in the world.

GnuCash, probably one on of the most comprehensive financial applications in the world (and I'm really looking forward to the imminent Gtk2 updates).

There are many others for Linux... some more obvious, some fairly subtle:

Screen, Rhythmbox, Vim, gThumb, Straw, and more.

On a final note, with the availability of Gimp for Windows, I wouldn't have included Paint Shop Pro. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? check 7-zip. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I posted for such a list some time ago. Thanks. I use OpenVMS and Linux at work and Linux at home and no Windows anywhere.

- jEdit - couldn't live without it. It is even better than TPU on OpenVMS. Still, I miss TPU's learn mode.
- Konqueror - I do not understand the bashing it sometimes is getting. I find it remarkable.
- ddd - again a bullseye. I know it is based on gdb. I beats the OpenVMS debugger by far.
- KMail - It's ok for what I need.
- K3b - But I have not gotten it to work on kernel 2.6. I think because scsi-ide is broken and K3b cannot burn using cd-ide yet.
- TextMaker - I haven't worked much with it yet. But it is lighter than Oo Writer and appears to suffice for the MS Word writing that I need.
- Digikam - Another one that looks very promising and but that I have not spent any time on yet. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Which is one reason (two reasons?) why Linux is not as widespread as it could/should be on the desktop. (That and the fuzzy fonts :-)

(Yeah, I use a *bunch* of other apps, but these are the only ones I use in Windows with no viable alternative on Linux. And Charlie, I respectfully disagree - Gnucash is no competition to either Quicken or MS Money for comprehensive and easy to use home finance management. Neither are Kmymoney, MondeyDance or Kapital. I wish Intuit would port Quicken to Linux and do the world a favor.) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows
1. Partition Magic 2. Norton Utilities 3. AVG antivirus 4. ZoneAlarm
5. AdAware 6. Spybot S&D 7. RegCleaner 8. Mailwasher
9. Xteq-xsetup, TweakUI 10. MozillaFirebird, JAVA 11. Winamp,Mplayer,Quicktime 12. Nero
13. StayLive 14. IfranView 15. Instant Artist 16. MealMaster
17. Map n' Go 18. Shutdown 19. Flashget 20. TXclock
21. Desktop Architech 22. Rain, MB probe 23. Power Archiever 24. Outlook Express
25. MS Office 26. Backer 27.AIDA, SANDRA 28.Ghost, G-disk, Ultimate boot disk

Linux
1. Click 'n Run 2. K3B 3.KDF, cfdisk, parted, QTparted 4.Xine, MPlayer 5.MozillaFirebird
6. apt-get, Synaptic 7.Wine 8. OpenOffice 9. VIM

Favorite Distros
1. LindowsOS 2. ARK 3. ALT 4. MEPIS 5. Knoppix 6. PCLinuxOS 7. Xandros
8. Libranet 9. Lycoris 10. Mandrake Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Since I use fluxbox and only lightweight apps, my list list might look a bit different:

- aterm
- Vim
- Sylpheed
- dillo
- MozillaFirebird
- irssi
- Mplayer
- XMMS
- gtksee
- siag Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows
========

Adobe Photoshop
Dreamweaver MX
Fireworks MX
Flash MX
Winzip
MS Word
Super Notetab
Mozilla Firebird
Outlook Express
Quake3
Nero
GTKradiant
Adobe Acrobat

The list could go on for a long time if I include smaller apps. (when you do web and multimedia stuff, you need a lot of apps)

Linux
=====

Mozilla
Apache
PHP
MySql
Sendmail
SSHD
Perl
named
vi

I'm still meddling with Linux on the Desktop - I've always got another dev box at home that I switch over to (with my nifty keyboard/monitor switcher) but I'll admit that there's no apps on the Linux Desktop I need. (currently running SuSe 9.0)

Server side, however, my business absolutely depends upon Linux to function for the hosting of websites, email etc. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This is my "software list" for Windows in no particular order:

WinRAR
Mozilla Firebird
mIRC
Dev-C++
foobar2000
Miranda IM
OpenOffice
LeechFTP
Eraser
FileZilla Server
Password Safe
GSview (along with Ghostscript)
ActiveState ActivePerl
ACDSee
Paint Shop Pro
Alcohol 120%
UltraEdit
The Bat!
ZoneAlarm
BestCrypt Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? To continue the trend of posting your favorite apps:

xCode
Eclipse
OfficeX
OmniGraffle
OmniOutliner

MSN Messenger
irssi
NetNewsWire Lite
MT-NewsWatcher
Transmit
wget
nmap
ncftp

Launchbar
Sidetrack
MySQL
libxslt (comes with xsltproc)
SuperCal

Photoshop Elements
Divx plugins for quicktime (see hint on macosxhints to see a nice list of plugins)
Mplayerosx
Windows Media Player 9
Realplayer
Flash Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My windows developer workplace:

1. FAR File Manager
2. Putty
3. UnxUtils (I hate cygwin!)
4. Mozilla Firebird
5. Various sysinternals.com tools
6. ACDSee v2.3 (the older the better)
7. Paint Shop Pro 6
8. VIM 6.2
9. Tortoise CVS
10. WinZip Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I use Linux exclusively so:
MozillaFirebird
Sylpheed-Claws
Gkrellm2 (for the xmms plugin more than anything)
Xmms
GQView
Emacs (I write for a living and I find it easier to write/edit stuff on this. Never quite got to like Vim).
Openoffice.org (Use this only for formatting the final text)
GNU Privacy Guard
Aterm
Gaim
Matt's Traceroute (I have a lousy dialup conncetion)
And Gnome, for a change every now and then from my default Window Maker desktop.

From my Windows Days:
Mozilla
Pegasus Mail (In fact this is the only Windows-only app that I miss)
PGP
Winamp
Kazaalite
MS Word
Zone Alarm
Norton Antivirus
Yahoo and MSN messengers Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My little collection I could NOT live without:

Infoselect
TheBat! {plz fix the html bugs though}
WinAce
Quicken
KazaaLite
PGP
*Any* Password manager (Oubliette at the moment)
MS office I suppose (miss Gobe..)
A Web Browser of anykind (this I think WOULD kill me) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ... you're not very intelligent... what's about Total-Commander/Windows-Commander on Windows and MC on Linux?

Can't think that you do EVERYTHING related to file management at your bash/konqueror/nautilus/windows-explorer...

... that's stupid Eugenia! Or you're a 08/15 user where proper file management doesn't matter...

Btw, I can live without Evolution. It's a mess and to buggy! Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "Click 'n Run"

This is soooooo not a third party app :-P Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows XP:)
WinRar
WinAmp
Light Alloy (video player)
Opera
ICQLite
FlashGet
Macromedia Studio MX
Y`z Dock
Acrobat Reader
StyleXP
Unizone
SmartFTP

BeOS R5+bone
Mozilla
SVGTracker
Terminal Here addon
The Gimp
Becasso
Beshare Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? OS X:
Launchbar
Mozilla Firebird
Fire
Mplayer
Carbonized Emacs
Fink/Finkcommander
Transmit (Thanks for that one, I've been looking for a nice graphical ftp client)

Linux/FreeBSD/Whatever:
XFCE
screen
irssi
Firebird
MPlayer
XMMS
Gaim
mutt

I'm still looking for something like irfanview for OS X. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I "always" install or upgrade these periodically

Linux
------
evolution
apache-mysql-php
jpluck / plucker
k3b
gimp
websec
webmin and fav modules
man2html - for light reading :-)
kio-apt - really cool konqueror frontend to apt-cache
konqueror - still finding new things to do with it
Konsole - for everything else

Windows - seems so long ago!?
-------
roxio
iceows - v.small light and different archiver
2xexplorer

Live CDs/tools
--------------
damnsmalllinux
knoppix

Palm
----
plucker
agendus / hotdate
bigclock
funSMS
tuneit
x-master and hacks
launcher III Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Searching hundreds of GBs takes less than a second, and queries remain live, just like the real thing. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? roxio?? I meant nero - see I told you it was long ago!! Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:
Microsoft Outlook
Winzip
Photoshop
ACDSee
Microsoft Office (Word,Excell)
ICQ,MSN (or trillian.. it was so much better earlier)
Netmeeting(for video sessions only)
Paltalk(for voice conferances)
Tiny Personal Firewall Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:
a) Thunderbird
b) Firebird
c) Trillian
d) Spampal
e) NutCracker

Sun:
a) GCC and gmake Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1. Mozilla Firebird/Thunderbird [ http://mozilla.org ]
2. 7-Zip [ http://seven-zip.sf.net ]
3. Nero [ http://www.nero.com ]
4. Metapad [ http://liquidninja.com/metapad/ ]
5. SmartFTP [ http://www.smartftp.com ]
6. Media Player Classic [ http://gabest.org/ ]
7. DefilerPak [ http://hellninjacommando.com/defilerpak/ ]
8. eMule [ http://emule.sf.net ]
9. RomCenter [ http://romcenter.com ]

with the exeption to Nero everything else is free and most are also Open Source Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Can't belive i forngith one of the most important apps i use!!

StrokeIt [ http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/ ]

Since installed, it has become a second nature so don't even think about it... Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm surprise there aren't many programs that are must haves for any OS. This is a bad sign for any shrink-wrap company left.

Linux comes with most of the applications mentioned and Microsoft is including alot of stuff starting with XP.

Anyways, my list really short.

Microsoft (windows xp pro)
1) Visual Studio 6
2) DotNet SDK
3) Java SDK
4) Eiffel Studio
5) Eclipse
6) Vim
7) Open Office
8) Mozilla
9) Acrobat reader
10) Flash
11) apache
12) Cgywin
13) VLC + WinDVD
14) Python
15) Mysql
16) PHP
17) Perl
18) Nero
17) Real one
18) Quicktime
17) Antivirus
19) Firewall

Linux (slackware)
1) Smart Eiffel
2) Eclipse
3) Flash
4) Xine, VLC + codec
WOW, everything else comes with the distro. No wonder it takes me less time to customize linux. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 20) Putty ssh client
21) Ftp client Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "1. WinZip
3. Paint Shop Pro
4. GetRight and CuteFTP or FileZilla
6. mIRC
8. Nero
9. [...] Opera"

Though i guessed a bit, these programs are to my knowledge shareware. I take it you are one of the ~30 people who actually paid for mIRC? Shareware essentially means you'll have to pay for it after having used it for a certain defined period.

Wether you have limited functionality akll the time, at the time after the period is over or full functionality does not differ anything to this license. Shareware is "try before you buy", after the period you either have to stop using it or pay for it.

Result is, a lot people are actually using ie. mIRC illegally. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? gnome
eclipse
xmms (rhythmbox can't handle my collection yet)
totem
tvtime
galeon
OO.org
nicotine
bittorrent Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Archiver: WinRAR or PowerArchiver
GFX: Paint Shop Pro; Irfan View or Picasa
Developer: Visual Studio .NET; DevC++; Matlab; GLUT
Internet: MyIE2 (IE's already there, why not make proper use of it? - I gave up on Opera because of this.); Eudora; Offline Explorer; PuTTY; LeechFTP or SmartFTP; MSN Messenger (can't be btohered with the other IMs); mIRC; Download Mage (can't live without "download targets as"); eMule; uPnP & Fast Resume BitTorrent Client (0.8.5)
Media Authoring: Daemon Tools; Nero; ISOBuster; CDMage
Office: M$ Office (okay, it's not 3rd party); Adobe Acrobat; GSView; Metapad
Media: ACE Mega Codec Pack (it includes nearly everything you need codecwise, with added apps to call); Media Player Classic; WinAMP; Foobar
Network: UltraVNC; Etherpeek
Misc: Ad-Aware; AntiViral Toolkit Pro; X-Win32; TweakI; themexp.dll patch; PerfectDisk; Aida32 and/or Sisoft Sandra Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? dselect !
apt
zsh Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? > Linux (slackware)
> 1) Smart Eiffel
> 2) Eclipse
> 3) Flash
> 4) Xine, VLC + codec
> WOW, everything else comes with the distro. No wonder it
> takes me less time to customize linux.

If you installed Dropline GNOME (http://www.dropline.net/gnome) you'd knock of Xine AND Flash. But anyway, eclipse is pretty easy to install and eiffel is a relatively obscure language so your point about Linux/BSD in general being complete is very true.

It's been a long time since I used windows and I believe that if I ever do some time in the future (very unlikely) that the list is likely to be at least as long as yours. I'm a Java DB developer also and things like MySQL, Apache, EMACS and NetBeans are absolute musts for me. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Win:
SmartFTP, latest free beta
Zonealarm
Winrar, Winrar, Winrar-BABY !!!!!!!!
Firebird
Ad-Aware
Serv-U
VNC Server

SuSE:
lynx ;-) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1. yahoo messnger
2. textpad, gvim
3. DAP/GetRight ,Winzip,irfan view
4. Moz./Firebird , SSH , putty
5. Cygwin
6. Quicktime,RealPlayer,Winamp
7. Ghostscript,gsview , Adobereader
8. OO.org, and some times even M$O
9. JSDK,and some c/c++ compilers..
10. chess and several dos games Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? netcat dammit! netcat.
I can't count the number of times I booted up a server with a dying disk, and only dd over netcat to backup the disk saved me.
It's not a replacement for proper backup, but it's a damn good idea.
And don't forget to keep it in / filesysem. who knows if your /usr or /var will be toasted? Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

- Mozilla (very first application I install after the OS)
- UltraEdit
- SecureCRT
- VNC
- TaskInfo (2003 in this case)
- Norton Antivirus
- Adaware
- Development Tools (Delphi, C# Builder)
- Quicktime
- Skymap Pro
- Macromedia Fireworks
- Sonicwall VPN Client software
- MS Office Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Regarding user apps, every box i have contains the magic combination of 7 -- be it configured or not. Some are preinstalled, depending on the OS. Programs like "ls", "mv" and "cat" are not added. Sorted on relevance:

* OpenSSH
* Screen
* Bash
* Links
* VIm
* Mutt
* Irssi

Though OpenSSH only would be enough as addon in most situations. I'm still trying to get OpenSSH and a kernel (any kernel) together on a floppy.

Without these programs, i live in huge pain. Java to be added soon...

Regarding X, it is much avoidable and not important. I could live with OGG123, Sidplay2 and Mikmod instead of Xmms and XSidplay. I could live with console or TWM instead of Enlightenment or XFce (there's always remote X over SSH anyway). I could live with Xterm instead of Eterm. I could live with Links instead of Mozilla (Firebird). I could live with VIm instead of Abiword. Except for the list of 7, none of these programs are mandatory.

I don't use Windows though i'm way not always behind my own computer. In the occasional situation it is unavoidable to use Windows i'd only need PuTTy and a One Time Password (OPIE, S/Key).

That's it. And it still feels somehow over-indulged. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Try ALZip 5.1 ( http://www.alzip.com/ ). It's free and provides the same functionality. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux only here (atleast until zeta gets their thumb.. )

1. xchat
2. Firebird
3. emelfm and/or mc
4. Gimp
5. gftp
6. xmms
7. centericq
8. (u)xterm
9. gkrellm
10. crossover office (I run Photoshop from it).

-Vecc Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The thing windows needs most is a decent download manager and better archiving capabilities.

Anyway, here are a few more..
mp3-tagging: mp3tag (win), easytag (linux)
p2p: emule (win), xmule (linux)
picture-manager: acdsee (win), included in kde/gnome Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Win:
Winamp; quicktime; realplayer; divx; Palm Desktop; icq; mirc; ssh; java; winzip; winrar; nero; matlab; adobe reader

Linux & FreeBSD:
vim; xine; k3b; xmms; kdevelop; cfdisk; opera; octave; xchat; ... Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Is there a free product that I could use that is similar to remote desk top on xp pro. I've been using putty but I would like to be able to use my Linux desktop from my xp machine. Any suggestions Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? - WinAmp 2.x
- WinRAR
- MikTeX + TeXnicCenter
- Total Commander (was: Windows Commander)
- Ultraedit
- my old ICQ 2001
- my old mIRC 8.5
- daemon tools
- nero
- antivir Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? WinRAR is so much better it isn't even funny. It extracts from every type of archive and it's free. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Apps i cant live without:

- apt-get
- gnome
- nautilus
- totem
- mplayer
- make
- gcc
- linux kernel
- debian Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The only Free (Speech and beer) X11 program for Windows i'm aware of is Cygwin in combination XFree86. It wouldn't surprise me at all when it is slow, though i do not have benchmarks -- only a ~year old experience with XFree86 + KDE2.

On the other hand, there are also non-free (proprietary and commercial) X11 implementations which are ie. shareware. Several exist, just Google around a bit. I can't remember which ones i've tried i do remember i couldn't find a free one.

Just Google for ie. X11 Microsoft Windows or XFree Windows. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? You might want to take a look at TightVNC http://www.tightvnc.com/ Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Waston
LaunchBar
Moof Menu
Acqlite
MLMac
MS Word
(X11 apps)
XChat
The Gimp
XV
AbiWord
FreeCiv
xmms
KStars Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? under linux:
1. mozilla
2. openoffice
3. xchat
4. xmms
5. mldonkey
6. mplayer
7. gnome-terminal
8. quanta
9. gftp
10. ssh

I dont use windows, but when I have to, I use mozilla and xchat. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows/Mac
1. Firebird
2. Illustrator
3. Flash
4. Photoshop
5. Dreamweaver
6. MS Office

Windows
7. Filezilla/LeechFTP
8. Gaim
9. Nero
10. iTunes
11. MWSnap
12. Iceows
13. Metapad... using it now and almost forgot it
14. Putty

Mac
7. Snapz Pro
8. Fire
9. VLC

Linux
1. Aptitude
2. Apache/PHP/Perl/mySQL
3. SIM (service monitor)
4. Kiss My Firewall
5. ncftp
6. Plesk
7. WebGUI
8. vim
9. wget
10. qmail

PocketPC
1. uBook
2. GSPlayer
3. Pocket MVP
4. TextMaker
5. FlexWallet
6. YanCEyWare Reader
7. ADBIdea
8. PocketTV
9. Pocket Time
10. Mobile Painting

RE: dpi - minimalism till realism...
I don't understand what the point of using a computer is for people like you who only work from the command line... Are you against innovation? Do you do things like watch movies, use digital images, view pictures online? Do you only have a 33.3k modem that prohibits you from actually enjoying your computer? I'm not trying to sound accuastory or anything, but seriously... why limit yourself so much when there's so much more out there? Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Mozilla
FileZilla
PHPTriad(Apache, MySQL and PHP)
Shorten*
WinAmp(with shn and FLAC plugins)
Flac Frontend*
Nero(with shn and FLAC plugins)
Dreamweaver MX
SoundForge(with Waves efx plugins)*
WinRAR
ACDSee
Secure Shell Client
Acrobat Reader
EAC*
CDWave*
WavMerge*
DVD Architect
Vegas*
Wavelab*
Bit Torrent

*these apps are for audio processing

sadly, none of these audio apps(with exception to shorten and flac) are available for Linux, so I spend most of time in Windows...and no, Audacity has maybe 1% of the functionality of a good audio editor Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? for the suggestions

Firebird - Linux and windows
VIM Linux
Edit plus2 or Texpad on windows

I've been using Edit Plus at work for the last 5 months. It has a column copy feature (using the mouse and alt key) that I've not seen in other text editors -or I'm just ignorant of them. It has other feature that are great also.

All though not a third party app Remote desk top kills PC anywhere Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? My favorite Windows apps list:
1. Miranda IM ( http://www.miranda-im.org ) Instant Messenger
2. StarDownloader ( http://www.stardownloader.com ) Download Manager
3. Kazaa Lite ( http://www.klitesite.com ) Sharing
4. Emule (http://emule.sf.net/ ) Sharing
5. Irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com ) Image Viewer
6. Analogx MaxMem/ProxyI (http://www.analogx.com ) Mem management
7. Winamp (http://www.winamp.com ) Media Player
8. Opera (http://www.opera.com ) browser
9. Mozilla Firebird (http://www.mozilla.org ) browser
10. UltimateZip (http://www.ultimatezip.com ) Zip/Ace/rar
11. Acrobat Reader 4.05 (http://www.adobe.com) PDF Reader
11. Kurumin (http://www.kurumin.com.br ) Brasil's Live-cd Linux Distro based on Knoppix :-) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? BeOS
Handbrake Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Mac OS X:

1. Xcode
2. Interface Builder
3. Terminal
4. BitchX/iRC
5. Mail.app
6. X11.app
7. iTunes
8. Cocoa Browser
9. AppKiDo
10. Safari Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

WS_FTP
TextPad
Visual Slick-Edit 5
Delphi 6
Visual Studio 6
Paint Shop Pro 6
WinZip
HomeSite
OpenOffice.org
FireBird
AIM
Qt Development Libs and Tools


Linux and FreeBSD:

gFTP
NEdit
VIM
OpenOffice.org
Quanta Plus
PySOL ;-)
Qt Development Libs and Tools
gAIM

Mac OS X:

BBEdit
CodeTek VirtualDesktop 2
Photoshop Elements 2
PandoCalendar 6
Qt Development Libs and Tools
OpenOffice.org Cocoa (I wish!)
Mike's Cards


I am waiting for OpenOffice.org Cocoa to be released. Right now, I tend to use OOo from my Linux box via X. I find that the X version of OOo for OS X is not very responsive :-( Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Under linux I like to use:
1. screen
2. Mozilla Firebird
3. pan
4. gentoo (the filemanager)
5. xmms
6. gkrellm
7. OOcalc
8. gaim (I don't actually like to use this )
9. vim
10. prozilla

These are all third party in a way under Gentoo, although I guess Everything is third party in linux except the kernel itself. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Good lists so far.

To the Unix/Linux list I would add Pan, which I think is the best newsreader I have ever seen.

As for the Dead OS Category, under OS/2 Warp - eComStation:

PMMail/2
PMView 2000
ProNews
The Graham Utilities (no relation)
Stardock Object Desktop 2. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I certainly agree.

Opera and screen would be difficult to do without, most certainly, as would nano (though if nvi supported syntax highlighting, it would do fine [elvis and vim are way too bloated]). Since I run FreeBSD, I love having portinstall.

Other apps that see a lot of use:

1. naim (a great IM/chat client without the bloat)
2. madplay (better compatibility and controlability than mpg123)
3. ssh (vital!) and sshd
4. rxvt
5. once in a while media apps: xzgv/qiv and mplayer
6. Some sort of window manager: IceWM works fine for full-screen apps, has good keybinding support, and has less bloat than most other WMs
7. top
8. Some sort of shell (bash or tcsh)
9. cvs/cvsup
10. xlock Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 7-zip
EFTP
fireBird
trillian
metapad
winamp
editplus 2
Rainlendar
ZoneAlarm Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? GNU/Linux (Debian Sid)
1) Galeon
2) Xmms
3) Anjuta
4) Gaim
5) Vim
6) Gift
7) Totem
8) The Gimp
9) Ximian Evolution
10) Xterm Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I use a lot of
+ Visual Studio .NET
+ Delphi 7
+ PyssWarze 2.0
+ Securyity Update from Microsoft
+ Google Tool Bar
+ Counterstrike (!!!EINSEINSELFELFELF11!!)
+ WinAmp Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hmm i'll try to explain my logic and show details. No offense taken at all.

"I don't understand what the point of using a computer is for people like you who only work from the command line..."

First of all, i don't only use the command line. I just stated the programs i can't live without and use most; which are all CLI programs. Though my X is also minimalistic, it is irrelevant for me to do the things i need to do. It is, for me, not required to function and i far from always use it.

My main reason to KISS is i prefer to be independant of "bloat" as much as i can thus i learn more "spartanic" ways thus i am autonomous and enlightened when the "bloat" is not available. While these "spartanic" ways also give me several advantages. I've experienced the dependancy on GNOME/KDE and X when i was a starter; and did not like it.

This is from my point of view a reflection to society. Where many people want to have the best of the best, some have enought with less. I never have the feeling to need the best of the best, be it soft-, hardware or money-wise.

In the case you want or have to live with "slow" computers, there's little choice for DE's like KDE and GNOME (besides, i don't like them, since they're not minimalistic enough). Though if you'd like to run, i respect such choice for one reason: you have the freedom and diversity to chose by default -- which i see that as a good thing.

"Are you against innovation?"

Not at all. I wish all Free software users a happy experience of their own. In the effort, i also wish the People progression, choice and diversity. My choice should not be forced upon others, while others' choice should not be forced on me. Though i am a strong believer in Free software, advocate it, and am inflexible regarding that.

Regarding innovation and the programs i'm using, i find SSH is a brilliant innovation. Much better than what i used before that: telnetd+ssl. I find Enlightenment a brilliant innovation too though i'm not sure if i'll use E17 when it's out & ready. I think GNU Screen is an innovative program as well.

(And i can do things with E16 which are not possible with KDE)

"Do you do things like watch movies, use digital images, view pictures online?"

Yes. But tell me, aren't these just "toys"? Isn't that visual stuff just for "fun"? W3m has image support (i've used it a few times on OSnews), MPlayer can be used on console (-vo aa, -vo cvidix) and pictures can be viewed using FBI. Except for AAlib, this be with framebuffer.

This, and The GIMP, and BitTorrent (ncurses frontend), and all the X programs i've named earlier aren't needed. The 7 programs i named are required for me. The rest -besides ie "ls, mv, cp"-, not.

"Do you only have a 33.3k modem that prohibits you from actually enjoying your computer?"

At home, ADSL. This is (at least for me) not correlated with running lots of resource-intensive software. I've ran KDE and GNOME years ago on 56k6.

"I'm not trying to sound accuastory or anything, but seriously... why limit yourself so much when there's so much more out there?"

I see it as limiting myself, i prefer simple, versatile methods. What am i missing? I don't feel like missing something. Flash? I miss that as toothpain, for example.

I've also noticed you putted up servers and the like. Except for OpenSSH i haven't added that kind of stuff. I've rather viewed it from a desktop perspective. Servers follow the same philosophy though.

Well that's it, i hope i gave you an interesting view. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1. Mozilla
2. Xmms
3. Grip
4. SIM(Simple Instant Messenger)
5. The GIMP
6. KMail&Mozilla Mail
7. Nautilus
8. gThumb
9. wget
10. File Roller
11. Mahjongg Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

WinRAR
Mozilla (Firebird)
IrfanView
UltraEdit
OO
putty
Acrobat
rktools (Unix Like Toolset for Windows)


Linux:

Mozilla (Firebird)
OO
Gaim
Acrobat Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I see it as limiting myself -> I don't see it as limiting myself
Servers -> Server daemons

Klonk, oops. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Intel® Application Accelerator
Adobe Acrobat
Analyzer (packet)
DAP
DivFix
DivXBundle
DVDShrink
DVDSmartRipper
Ethereal
Kerio Personal Firewall
NetStumbler
PowerArchiver
SurfSecretDVD2VCD
WinAmp
WinMX & Utils
WinPcap
Xvid
ZxSniffer

That about does it. I just started using Linux (less than a week), so I'm not sure about that yet. I'll check out y'alls picks though.

Thanks,
Fig Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Great ogg/mp3 player!

http://www.quinnware.com/

Runt mode is great! Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sorry to be back so soon. I can't believe I forgot to mention Perl. I use ActiveState under Windows, and Ilya's port on OS/2. The BeOS port of 5.8.0 has no Sockets, sadly.

BTW someone said they always install SVG Tracker when they install BeOS. Where can I get this?

...awg Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? MacOSX:
Fire
iTerm
MacStumbler
LaunchBar
bitchx (haven't looked for irssi yet on osx)

OpenBSD:
aterm
gkrellm
irssi
sylpheed
gimp
bluefish
abiword
vim

Windows
winamp (2.x series, hate 3.x)
trillian
office
winzip
kazaalite
itunes Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux (apps that don't come with the distro):

- K3B
- Celestia
- Crossover Office
- MS Office (it's a third party app on Linux!)
- Photoshop
- Gimp 1.3 (development version)
- Checkinstall (I like to make my own RPMs sometimes)
- Apollon
- Bookcase (for keeping track of my DVD collection)
- Xmame
- Mplayer from plf + Kmplayer frontend
- Filelight (I wish this existed on Windows - anyone know any equivalent?)

Windows:

- ZoneAlarm (the FIRST third-party app to install if the PC is directly connected to the Internet)
- WinZip (the second third-party app to install - a lot of third party drivers and whatnot come as .zip files)
- Irfanview
- Mozilla
- Cygwin
- Winamp
- An anti-virus software
- Celestia
- Post-It notes
- Bonzi Buddy (ha! just kidding!) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? firebird on all except osx (safari just rules) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ...and of course Flash and RealPlayer, for both Linux and Windows. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Mozilla Firebird (usually some nighty build compiled with many optimisations)
GoogleBar (essential, for me, addon to Firebird. It has some features that you won't find in original Google Toolbar. Don't use the experimental version )
Foobar2000 (very, very good audio player - that does only what audio player is meant to do - plays audio perfectly)
Miranda (with jabber plugin)
Media Player Classic (http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/, with Quicktime Alternative)
Filezilla (fast and lightweight ftp client and server (separate, both share the same name))
7-Zip (yes, right now its file menager has terrible interface...but if you're the kind of person that rather use context menus in explorer for archiwing tasks instead, you'll find this application usefull perhaps (not to mention being able to use 7z format))
Ghost-It! (http://home.rochester.rr.com/artcfox/GhostIt/ has the ability to create "ghost windows" - the windows that not only are transparent and always on top, but your clicks pass through them. In some situations very usefull. Not to mention spooky )
Wackget (http://millweed.com/projects/wackget/ very light and unobtrusive download menager. Well, in realiy you can hardly call it download menager - it's very, very simple. But I find it very usefull. Uses wget under the hood)
Slowview (graphics viewer. Don't let the name mislead you, quite fast rather. I like it's features, don't like look of its menus, but overall it's very good)
Sygate Personal Firewall
AVG Anitivirus
Soulseek

And one very good IM app usuable only here (but it's part of the jabber...but app, though astounding for default IM service application (and I've seen a few...), is only available in my language)
Oh, and there's also free (now - it's an old version, but I consider it the best one - light, no skins) video player with simply beautifull subtitles. So it may interest you if you watch some movies with subs in separate files...
http://www.koala.pl/download/KFP19Full.rar
Don't know what is the default language set on non Polish systems, so in case it's Polish: right click on program window, choose item "jezyk", second from bottom, and you will have more "normal" languages ;P Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

Winamp
Strokeit
Girder
Zoom Player
Total Commander
WinRAR
The Bat
MyIE2
Nero
EMule
Putty
Buzz

Linux:

joe
mutt
qmail
swaret
bash
vnc
find
xmms
open office


Java:

POPFile Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:04:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hydrairc Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:05:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sylpheed
GAIM
Galeon
GTKPod
Grip
Aterm
GIMP
Beaver
Epic
OpenOffice
Mplayer Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? vlc
SoundPlay
xgalaga :-)
BeAIM
MailDaemonReplacement
Mozilla
Firebird
BeShare
perl
python
OpenTracker
ProcessController
VideoPro
stampTV
cron
Most of the GeekGadgets
ffmpeg

Adam Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? BePDF
BeCasso
ArtPaint Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Can anyone make a list for that? It would cost quite some time to find out which programs are best. Time which i don't want to spend on that. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? xp
-call of duty
-c&c generals:zero hour

debian
-samba 3
-rsync
-bind
-apache

redhat
-k3b
-fluxbox
-gkrellm
-firebird

classic mac os
-photoshop
-toast
-illustrator Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? On Linux (in no particular order):

1. SSH and gnome-terminal
2. Epiphany
3. Nautilus
4. Rhythmbox
5. Abiword2
6. OpenOffice.org Calc
7. Ximian Evolution
8. GIMP
9. vi
10. Totem Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:
CloneCD (can't be done in Linux)
Games (only the ones that don't run with WineX3.2)
Openoffice
gaim

Linux:
Pan
Mozilla Firebird
gtk-gnutella + bittorrent
mplayer
Openoffice
gaim Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? to see the number of people who use multiple platforms.

this reinforces my belief that the trolls and fanboys truly are a (stupid) and vocal minority. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Filezilla is on GPL, and Opera isn't shareware - it's adware Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Sometimes it really does pay to read this board. It got mentioned enough times that I went and took a look. Great program, thanks to those who mentioned it, bye bye winamp...you served me well (Or at least the versions before 3 did). EAC + Foobar2000, seems like my Ogg requirements are finally met :>. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:36:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1) (NT) Emacs ( with nxml-mode & jdee )
2) (Cygwin) Bash
3) Java Dev. tools
3) Moz Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? errrrr..Winrar isn't free boi... Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I found WinRAR to make WinZIP obsolete...
For the media: FFDShow and AC3Filter (both of them freeware).
Xircon and the famous Kano11 script/addon instead of mIRC and AvantBrowser for the Internet browsing. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? KOffice: Quick, responsive, a decent amount of features, and it's mostly worked through all the stability problems it used to be notorious for. Abiword/Gnumeric are equally good, I just prefer KDE-native applications.
Gaim: I'm sorry, but Kopete doesn't even come close.
JuK: RhythmBox and other iTunes-esque library-style media players on Linux just fall over, but JuK is responsive even with libraries containing tens of thousands of songs.
k3b: Nothing even touches k3b. Don't even try.
Apollon/Nicotine: Why yes, I certainly can use Kazaa and Soulseek on Linux.
Pan: The best newsreader ever, bar none. Nothing else on Windows, OSX or Linux can touch it.
Konqueror/KHTML: It's gone from being the stripped-down and featureless underdog to my favorite browser in under a year. I guess there's a reason Apple picked it.
KDevelop/Quanta Plus: The best all-around IDEs for C++ and web development, bar none. Feel free to replace with Anjuta/Bluefish according to taste.
Xine: What an amazing product. It's a shame it's got so much competition from MPlayer and VLC.
Ximian Evolution: As fast as Qt and KDE applications run on my computer compared to GTK+, there's just nothing Qt-native that comes anywhere near Evolution in terms of feature set and integration. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:
Firebird
Thunderbird
SmartFTP
XChat
Microsoft Word
Battlefield 1942

Linux:
Gaim
Epiphany
Thunderbird
Abiword Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

1. Dreamweaver Studio MX
2. Paint Shop Pro 8
3. PHP
4. MySQL
5. FireBird
6. Netscape 4 and 7
(yeah I know, Netscape 4...I work for the government. It is required that I test that every site I build still functions in NS 4.)
7. PhotoShop
8. Illustrator
9. Acrobat (full version - not just reader)
10. SystemWorks
11. Star Trek Armada 2 (got veg sometime)
12. MS Office XP
13. Opera

Linux
1. XD 2
2. FireBird
Everything else I need is in my distro. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Home
Windows
1. MSN Messenger (I don't use the other networks)
2. Firebird
3. Photoshop
4. Dreamweaver
5. Assorted games

Linux
1. GAIM
2. XMMS
3. Firebird
4. Evolution
5. gVim
6. Apache
7. PHP
8. MySQL
9. GIMP (1.3)
10. I guess Python for playing with, but that's about all I use.

Work
Windows
1. Outlook
2. Firebird
3. Admin pack
4. IE 6 (For admining the update server)
5. MSN Messenger
6. Winamp Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Arcanum and grep. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Lin

* Opera
* Xmms
* MPlayer
* MySQL

Win

* Firebird
* Putty
* Eudora
* ztracker http://ztracker.sf.net
* WaveLab
* Winamp
* WinRAR

Lin/Win

* OO !
* Eclipse
* Tomcat
* JDiskReport http://www.jgoodies.com/ Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Gaim
Gqview
GIMP
KGhostview/Gpdf/Acroread
Mozilla/MozillaFirebird
Kmail
MySQL Control Center
TuxCards
Quanta
Totem
Kaffiene
MPlayer, Xine
Juk
OpenOffice, Abiword
K3b (for Linux cd-writing it doesn't get any better!) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? MacOSX

Amazingly, I don't even have most of the stuff everyone else lists. I've made an effort to learn to use OS X with as few add-ons as possible.

Hitting the high points (stuff that can't be faked & isn't built in anyway):

Photoshop Elements (soon, replacing Photoshop 4)
Toast Mainly for hybrid CD's, for which I have to boot into OS9, it's too unstable and too limited on X.

CodeWarrior XCode has some good unique features, but it ain't in CW's league yet. It's good for creating new projects.
App-Ki-Do & Cocoa Browser Neither is complete by itself, and Cocoa is almost unusable without them.
Resorcerer
Interarchy (plan to test some others soon.)

GyazMail Only thing I can find besides (ugh) Eudora that lets me send with different return addresses.

Stuffit Only choice on Mac; also vastly better than PkZip, WinZip, etc, on Windows.

WindowShade X for the sole purpose of totally preventing anything from ever minimizing to the Dock.

BBEdit LiteOpens anything. Usually enough to get into Word documents. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Since I only use Linux, these are the absolute essentials, which I can't live without:

Mozilla Firebird (obvious)
Open Office (Since it makes the best PDFs)
K3B (Where would I be without it?)
Gimp (Ever tried Photoshop with wine?)
Trash Can (Who can live without?) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? BeOS:
------------------------------------
Expander ( ZIP/RAR or whatever I need to unzip )
Metrowerks BeIDE
Vision ( Best IRC client ever )
VLC ( Best Video CLient ever )
Mozilla/And Firebird
CL-amp
Handbrake ( Can it really be better? )
XRS
GoBe or Abiword here.

Win:
-------------------------------------
Only games here. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I just use linux right now. Got rid of my windows partition, and beos partition a while back when I realized that I was only booting to them about once a month, and they were eating up too much space. so my list right now.

on Slackware Linux

Dropline Gnome
Rhythmbox
Sound Juicer
Sodipodi
Gimp 1.3
Quake 3
Unreal Tournament
Winex
Ximian's Open Office Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The apps I use on a daily basis:
1. Mutt
2. slrn
3. centericq
4. BitchX

Then for fun:
1. Tuxracer
2. Frozen-Bubble
3. GLTron
4. Neverwinter Nights/Urentide Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1. launch bar
2. osx2x
3. Fugu
4. Poisoned
5. SubEthaEdit
6. Adobe Photoshop
7. Firebird
8. Crikey!
9. Proteus
10. darwinports Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? |Slackware 9.1|

-Dropline Gnome
-Quake 3
-Unreal Tournament/2K3
-Enemey Territory
-Americas Army
-Starcraft
-GTA 3
-Warcraft 3
-Sim City 3000
-Max Payne
-Duke Nukem 3D
-aMSN
-Mldonkey
-xmmms
-mozilla
-swaret Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Win:
moz-fb
msoffice - ooo still not native
kazaa lite
cygwin/bash
editpad - woot! best editor ever!
Nero
gvim - quick editing

linux:
xmms - i still don't like jukebox type apps like rbox or juk
konqueror (konq 3.2 is VASTLY improved thx to apple..enough to replace firebird for me)
ooo - good as it gets on linux.. abiword/gnumeric and koffice dont do it for me
kopete - recently replaced gaim for me
kmail - again, vastly improved in kde 3.2.. can compete with Evo feature to feature, and has even better gpg integration
wolf-et - good game
k3b - the nero of linux
konsole
gimp development version
vim

osx:
safari - IE is slow. Mozilla is slow. Safari rocks.
Terminal.app
OfficeV.X - nothing touches it on OSX yet
Photoshop
Illustrator
vim Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:23:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Here's my list of most important apps.

0. Gnome (UI control)
1. Mozilla
2. Gaim
3. XMMS
4. GKRellm
5. Synaptic
6. Firestarter
7. Open Office (gEdit/vi for simple text editing)
8. gFTP
9. Gxine

I'd like to find an image viewer that doesn't suck. Personally I think the image viewer that comes with XP is pretty good. It intelligently resizes images to fit whatever size window you have. It automatically lets you go to the next image in a directory without having to first go to File, then Open, and creating a "playlist" of images. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? gThumb, its the best. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I find it amazing that a GNU/Linux or *BSD list of favorite apps wouldn't have either Emacs or some variant of vi. My favorite apps are:
(1) Emacs
(2) ed
(3) sed
(4) w3m, for my web-browsing
(4) wanderlust, an Emacs-based mail client
(5) scribus, for desktop publishing
(6) tcsh (because bash sucks)
(7) glabels, for printing business cards
(8) sodipodi Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? on Linux (Slackware):

- Dropline Gnome (dropline-installer)
- swaret
- Gnumeric
- centericq
- irssi
- Java SDK
- NetBeans

on QNX:

- The Installer
- Eclipse
- KillerAudio
- irssi
- ysm Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? What I need:

FreeBSD (and Linux/OpenBSD/NetBSD)

-openssh
-firebird/dillo/links
-screen
-irssi/xchat
-cvsup
-bittorrent
-xmms/mplayer
-gimp
-gaim/licq
-nmap
-abiword
-wget
-xpdf Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I notice that a lot of you are putting Quak3 3 and Unreal Tournament on your list .... don't you get tired of playing those damn games? I got tired of playing them when they were called Doom Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? XFCE 4.01 /w goodies Slackware 9.1

-Server Stuff (Apache, OpenSSH, Very Secure FTP daemon)
-Browsing (Mozilla Firebird, Lynx)
-E-mail (Mozilla Thunderbird)
-Media (XMMS, Xine)
-Updates (Swaret)
-Communication (XChat, Gaim)
-Games (Quake III, Unreal Tournament, and the WineX so Diablo II Expansion pack is playable) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "I notice that a lot of you are putting Quak3 3 and Unreal Tournament on your list .... don't you get tired of playing those damn games? I got tired of playing them when they were called Doom "

No, never Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

Emacs
CDBurnerXP Pro (Free)
WinGIMP, Dia
GAIM
OpenOffice
Mozilla, Mozilla Mail, Mozilla Calendar
NetBEANS
Relo (IDE)
Java
EditPad Pro
Quicktime, Real Player, WinDVD, iTunes

Linux

Java
KDevelop
Scribus
GAIM
Ogle
XMMS, MPlayer
Real Player
OpenOffice
GIMP
Mozilla, Mozilla Mail, Mozilla Calendar
CrossOver Office Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? for windows:

irfanview
foobar2000
mozilla-firebird
xnews
nero
daily comic popup
winrar
mcafee av
divx player
wacom tablet driver Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux only, I haven't used Windows on the desktop for a year ...

ZSH
apt-get + dpkg
emacs/vim
J2SDK
Gaim, XChat.
SSH, sftp
Rhythmbox/Xmms
Frozen-bubble !
:) Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? WINDOZE:
Xteq...a graphical system tweaking app
Zsoft's PC paintbrush...i have never found a better freehand painting tool on any OS at any price,no multiple undo and long filename support and may not run on versions later than WIN98,you can usually find this puppy for less than 10 bucks in the discount software bin at the local dept store.
Ultimate Paint...filters and special FX galore
Zwei-Stein..full featured freeware video editor great for combining small clips into a larger movie or other video editing tasks
ZipMagic...my favorite file extractor for Windoze ,it always seemed funny to me that windoze doesnt even come with a zip utility,while cheaper and even free OS's do
Window Washer ...nice graphical cleaner for your temp internet files,and such
SynthFactory....a freeware softsynth
Poodles and Flan...a fracal midi composition app,reminds me of a little mechanical Frank Zappa
BeOS5 Personal Edition ... a good test to see if BeOS will run on your Win Box.

BeOS:
MonoView....nifty little viewer app that will run any picture or video supported by BeOS,i always have the icon right on my desktop so i can drop a file on it,also has a replicant feature so you can use the pics or movies for walpaper
XRS....the ultimate rythym machine for BeOS
PersonalStudio....THE best video editor anywhere
Slayer..sorry ,I like this one better than Process controler!maybe it's the neat pentogram icon
BeOS clean up manager...Window washer for BeOS
BeConverter...converts units of measure,currency etc.
dCam...really cool app that will save a sequence of still pix as a movie file amongst other things, also plays all the pictures in a directory as a slideshow
Rack747...nifty softsynth,rythym machine has a random event feature to make it just sit there and jam out, very entertaining
There's just too many to list in BeOS actually as this is my all time favorite platform

Linux:
Most linux distros seem to come with everything but the kitchen sink but I recently Loaded a Mandrake 9.1 distro on my one box and found that amongst the wealth of apps that were included a few old favorites weren't there:
Compupic...wish I could remember where I put this app ,it was my favorite picture viewer for linux
StarOffice...runs just fine on Mandrake9.1
Xpaint...nice lite painting tool for X , Leaner than Gimp like the difference between Artpaint and Refraction in BeOS,loads faster and is nice when you just want to do something quick.this a[[ was sorely missing from the mandrake 9.1 distro,but I have a fairly new Debian distro on mt DotStation and it's on there.

MacOSX:
I Don't have a Mac new enough to run OS X, But If someone out there wants to send me one,I would be glad to test out any apps you would like,I'm the consumate Beta tester!LOL
besides It would be an Ideal Xmas present!!! Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I don't know about "third party", but these are the apps that I make the most use of (and enjoy using the most):

1. bash
2. emacs
3. vim
4. konqueror (thought I do have to use mozilla sometimes)
5. kmail (far better than some people credit it for)
6. ssh
7. pine (yes, I use kmail AND pine)
8. wget
9. netcat
10. lsof Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:48:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The list must grow :-)

11. mpg123 (why bother with the xmms window :-)
12. python - good for everything, the wonder widget! Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? In no particular order:

Linux:

1) Konqueror
2) KMail
3) XMMS
4) K3B
5) GIMP
6) Blender
7) wget
8) bash + GNU Utils
9) POPFile
10) tvtime
11) Gngeo (Best NeoGeo emulator for Linux)
12) ZSNES
13) KMencoder
14) MPlayer & KMPlayer
15) Digikam (Excellent for managing hundreds of photos!)
16) Kopete
17) Apollon

Windows:

1) Mozilla
2) POPFile
3) Miranda IM
4) NeoRAGE (still the best NeoGeo emulator so far!)
5) FinalBurn (best CPS1 and CPS2 arcade emulator available out there)

I think that's it...

DeadFish Man Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:25:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? OSX

More 3.1 -- 12 years old and one of the primary reasons I still use a mac
Word + Endnote -- They're separate apps by separate companies, but it's the combination that really is important to me
Drop Drawers -- a wonderful interface for the mac
Eudora -- don't love it but don't want to risk converting either
Notational Velocity -- extraordinary note pad
File maker -- for almost everything to do with grading
My own apps: TAMS and books2burn

Linux/*nix
Bluefish -- since "upgrading" to panther I've trashed my copy; miss it dearly
gramofile -- main reason I have linux on any machine Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? **It automatically lets you go to the next image in a directory without having to first go to File, then Open, and creating a "playlist" of images.

gThumb is the best

gThumb does the exact thing I was saying I didn't like. If you associate JPG images to it, it will open the 1 JPG image you click on and then you have to create a "playlist" before you can see the rest. The behavior I'm looking for is a viewer that realizes there are other images in the same directory and will let you go to them with PGUP/PGDOWN or left and right clicking. So if I have a directory (folder) on my Desktop that has 10 images in it and I open that directory, click on any image in the list, all I have to do is hit PGUP/PGDOWN to scroll through them. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1) Ad Muncher! the single biggest headache-reliever, which saves me from megabytes of advertisements. It's the speediest, most effective ad-blocker out there. Available only on Windows. http://www.admuncher.com
2) NewsBin! The fastest, most efficient news robot around. Available only on Windows. http://www.newsbin.com
3) VirtualDub. For all my encoding needs. I expect this to get bumped down by Nero Recode2 soon. Available only on Windows. http://virtualdub.org
4) foobar2000. Rips, tags, plays all my mp4 music. It's the digital pimp, and it's only for Windows. http://www.foobar2000.org/
5) WinRAR. Kicks @$$ on every other archiver I've found. GUI version only on Windows. http://rarlabs.com
6) Nero Burning ROM. It's not as efficient as other burning apps, but it does EVERYthing. When Recode2 is released in about 2 weeks, Nero goes straight to number 1. Windows only. http://www.nero.com
7) Kazaa Lite. Close behind: ed2k, DC++. Unfortunately there's no official mirror anymore due to 'copyright infringement.'
8) Opera! i'd use Firebird, but it's still too slow. Expect Firebird 1.0 to take this place if it has inline autocomplete. http://www.opera.com
9) SpamWeed. Best Bayesian SPAM filter I've found. Better than POPfile - that says it all. Available only on Windows. http://www.spamweed.com
10) this space intentionally blank. Perhaps an email client should be here, but Thunderbird still sucks, OE6 lacks too many features, and Outlook 2003 just plain stinks. I expect Thunderbird 0.8 will take this spot when it's released. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 11) Vegas Video. Kicks @$$ on Premiere, etc.
12) SoundForge - since i'm over the limit anyways..
13) ACID Pro. Best sequencer for me.
14) ACDsee - another digital pimp.

The above are only available on Windows. Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? On OS/2:

PmView2000
RSJ CD Writer
Mozilla Firebird/Thunderbird
PmDownloader
Lotus Smartsuite
PmZip, RAR
Realplayer

On Windows

Nero
Office2003 (Excel & Word)
Flashget
PmView2000
Powerarchiver (a Winzip clone that's better than Winzip)
Realplayer, Quicktime

On MacOS X

Office v.X (Excel & Word)
iGetter
Poison
Toast and Dragon Burn X
Stuffit Deluxe
Realplayer, Windows Mediaplayer
UnrarX Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows
------------
foobar2000
Media Player Classic
Opera
Trillian Pro 2.0
WinRAR Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hi!

There is my contribution.
I use this all applications under Linux and Solaris (SPARC)

Evolution
MozillaFirebird
OpenOffice
Anjuta
Bluefish
Gaim
X-Chat
xMule
Downloader for X
Xine
Sun's JDK
XMAME
--- and in the server
SSH + Tomcat + Apache + MySQL and / or PHP

UNIX/Linux is READY to desktop :-)

AlucardX / Ibantxuyn Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm using slackware 9.0 . This is what I use in daily basis:

k3b 0.10 (cd burning)
gaim 0.70 (instant messenger)
gFTP
xine (for dvds)
mplayer (the same)
kplayer 0.4 (nicely integrated with KDE)
nicotine (soulseek client)
grip (audio->mp3, audio->ogg)
kbear
gimp
xchat
scummvm (I love monkey island )
squid (serving my small lan's http requests)
sweep 0.82 (the best audio editor for *nix i've ever seen)
mozilla 1.5

I love it simple Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? UltraEdit for Win32.

*Indispensible* text editor.

www.ultraedit.com Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux:
PostgreSQL (If not already installed)
Java SDK
Tomcat
Eclipse
Gentoo (The filebrowser not the OS)
Alsa (though it is in Slack 9.1)
Nvidia Drivers (Easier dual monotor configuration)
VLC
Open Office
JACK

Windows:
Firebird SQL (because Postgre does not hav a native Windows port)
Cygwin
VLC
Mozilla and/or Firebird Browser
Java SDK
Eclipse
Open Office
Foobar 2000
BurnAtOnce
Ogg Vorbis Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It Makes 11 for Linux bur Firewall Builder. I can handle simple netfilter forewalls but FWB makes the tedious job of setting up a larger network up reasonably painless.

And to even it out for Windows Exact Audio Copy (EAC) Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? In BeOS at home:

Helios CDR
ImageMounter
NetPenguin
Vision
Pe
Mail Daemon Replacement
ClipUp
PecoRename
SoundPlay
MP3 Army Knife
RipEnc
VLC
LAME
SLRN
SpicyKeys
BeShare
UniversalScroller
Firebird
Dockbert
Coldcut/Bambam/SampleStudio

Windows:

Illustrator
Photoshop
Eudora
Nero
CDex
WinAMP (5.0 betas are v. v. nice)
VNC
VLC
VirtualDub
NimoCodec pack
Bink tools (so I don't have to pollute my nice clean system with quicktime)
WinGAIM
Creative MediaSource (so it's an amateurish iTunes clone, which still makes it better than their previous attempt - an amateurish WMP clone - but it's the least hideous free interface to my 'ol Nomad II)
Audacity Sun, 07 Dec 2003 02:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "ZipMagic...my favorite file extractor for Windoze ,it always seemed funny to me that windoze doesnt even come with a zip utility,while cheaper and even free OS's do"


Huh?
I suppose "Compressed Folders" isn't included and free in ALL Microsoft Windows Products SINCE WindowsME...Looks like a free Zip utility to me.

I never understood why MS doesn't make it more apparent they do have one installed (damn DOJ). I have run across ALOT of people who didn't know a Zipper is included with Windows. Just have to know where to look (Add/remove windows components). Sun, 07 Dec 2003 02:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? What's important to notice is that Linux distros / *BSDs usually cover about 95% of their users' need. You can't say the same for BeOS, Windows, MacOSX etc...

However, most of the time, I like to add the following to my Linux distros:

1) Gstreamer's MP3/DIVX/de-css plugins
2) Totem
3) MAME + illegal ROMS (where can I *buy* the legal ROMs ?)
4) xMule for illegal download of music (when will it be possible to get songs for 1 EUR each in Europe ?)
5) Blender
6) Flash and JRE plugins for Mozilla

That's all. Everything else is already on the 3 CDs. Sun, 07 Dec 2003 02:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

1. MS Office
2. Acrobat Reader
3. Winzip
4. Winamp
5. CuteFTP
6. Yahoo! Messenger

POSIX:

1. Mozilla
2. Open Office
3. xterm
4. XAmp


Looks like now with POSIX i have less dependent to Windblows stuff really huh???

just 2 cents Sun, 07 Dec 2003 03:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? mTelnet (a Zmodem-capable telnet client)
QuickView Pro for DOS (http://www.multimediaware.com/qv/)

Without the first, I could't grab software from the several telnet-capable BBSes I still frequent. Without the second, I'd have a hard time watching the movies I make with my digital camera! :-)

To be honest, I also do some thing under Windows, and I find the following third-party apps invaluable:

* Mozilla/Firebird
* 4DOS (yes, I use a CLI under Windows)
* FTE and JFE (text editors)
* FileJet (fullscreen file manager)
* XnView (graphics)
* QuikMenu 4 (replacement desktop)
* PhotoGenetics
* Archimage (photo page website builder)
* SpaceMonger
* Quartz AudioMaster
* Anvil Studio
* QuickTime Player
* QuickView Pro
* Space Sun, 07 Dec 2003 07:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:

ZoneAlarm
SpyBot Search and Destroy
AVG free antivirus.
Nero
Trillian
WinRar
TextPad (because notapad blows)
OO.org
Acrobat Reader
Java
Firebird

Linux:

Gaim
Gimp
Lyx
Acrobat Reader
OO.org
Java
Opera (the best browser for Linux IMO)
MS Fonts (not exactly an app but pretty essential) Sun, 07 Dec 2003 07:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Like most of us here, I use a lot of different OSes between home and a few jobs. These days though, and for a year and a half, Windows CE has been my primary platform. I am definately an anamoly in that sense. And in another way too- I am a Squeak Smalltalk user and developer ( http://www.squeak.org ), and because of the power and flexibility of Squeak, it is my operating environment.

For me, my must have apps on Windows CE are:
Squeak Smalltalk: What is there to say? Squeak is the bomb. It is like having Emacs as my environment, but is useful in a more conventional way. It is incredibly expandable, flexible, and dynamic; if I want to change the way something works, I can go in and change it.

One could say that you could do this with any open source system, but it goes a step beyond that- I don't have to deal with the temporal, computational, or emotional overhead with dicking around with a C/C++ system, spending more time on finding where I would make the change than the whole process of implementing and testing teh change would take in Smalltalk. Squeak has a lot of apps for it, which I use within the environment- telnet/xterm, IRC, full IDE, scripting environment, editors, etc etc.

http://www.squeak.org and http://spe.sf.net

ftxBrowser: A tabbed web browser, incredibly configurable. Embeds the IE that comes with WinCE, so I don't loose any of the functionality that IE 5.5 WinCE provides. Equivalent to somewhere in between IE 5.0 and 6.0- a very capable browser, especially on the high-res screen.

http://www.af.wakwak.com/~ftoshi/software.html

Rainer Kuechel's Unix Ports: Too many to list itemized. Thanks to Rainer's efforts, there are more well adapted ports of classic Linux/Unix apps for Windows CE than I found when using the Linux-based Zaurus. The apps I use more often are GNU Maxima (math software) and LaTeX.

http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/software.html

Dialect: I use this scripting language a ton. If you take the Python language, but give it the prototype-based object model of NewtonScript and the ease of development of VisualBasic 6 and you have Dialect. I do most of my coding in Squeak, but when I need to put together a pure CE utility to share with the Handheld PC community, I often do it in Dialect- you can write, test and run code on the PDA or handheld itself as well as deploy to an EXE. The EXE has an overhead of 750KB for the base runtime and library, which isn't that bad, compared to similar tools for Perl and Python.

http://dialect.sf.net

uBook Reader: I read a ton of ebooks. While I have a simple enough ebook reader for Dynapad/Squeak, uBook reader is very nice and very featured, so I stick with it.

My current main computer is the Sigmarion III, a WinCE.NET 4.1 machine. 800x480 16bit color screen (!), 64 MB RAM, SD and CF slots, USB host and USB slave port- host ports are very rare on PDAs- I can plug in USB keyboards, hard drives, scanners, CD-RWs, etc etc- and a very fast PXA255 XScale CPU running at 400 MHz. Wifi via a CF card, naturally.

http://handheldpcs.superboxes.com/ Sun, 07 Dec 2003 07:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? BeOS / Zeta:
1. Handbrake
2. BeGet
3. BeAIM
4. BeOS IM kit
5. Vision
6. Mail Replacement Daemon
7. Jukebox
8. Soundplay
9. VLC
10. Squeezer

MacOS X:
1. SubEthaEdit
2. Zoe
3. VLC
4. Handbrake
5. iRC
6. GraphicConverter
7. Transmit
8. CandyBar
9. SalingClicker
10. Marratech

Zaurus:
1. tkcAddressBook
2. tkcCalendar
3. tkcJabber
4. tkcMahjongg
5. tkcPlayer
6. tkcRadio
7. tkcVideo
8. Opera
9. NotesSync
10. Gaim

There are many apps that I couldn't live without, and these are only ment as a selection. Sun, 07 Dec 2003 07:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Primarily, I only use Linux:

Opera
GAIM
X-Chat
XMMS
MPlayer
OpenOffice.org
Emacs
Links/Lynx
gcc
wget
Komba2 (Samba)
Audacity
xcalc
GIMP
Grip Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Why to hell that malicious mIRC when you listed Trilian ? Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:37:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? If one is going from a Mac to Mac connection ...

would it be better to use Timbuktu or ARD?

:) Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I need these apps:

1. Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
2. Microsoft OneNote 2003
3. Microsoft Office Word 2003
4. Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2003
5. Microsoft Office Visio 2003
6. Microsoft Exchange 2003
7. Microsoft Visual Studio .NET
8. Microsoft Encarta 2004
9. Microsoft BizTalk Server 2004 Developer
10. Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Developer

Until someone ports this list to linus oder macos I see no way to ever use them... Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? 1) Opera (Win/Linux) - fast as a greased scotsman, and means i can seamlessly access my email and bookmarks between the two OSs

2) Vim - again, i can use the config cross-platform

The Rest) Paint Shop Pro, Winamp (XMMS under linux), Media Player Classic, Nero, JWPce (japanese word processor with dictionary) Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:27:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Until someone ports this list to linus oder macos I see no way to ever use them...

I guess what you are saying is that you are and always will be a Windows only user... Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux:
1. GAIM
2. OpenOffice
3. emacs or vim
4. gcc
5. PAN
6. GNOME!
7. GnuCash
8. XChat2
9. Epiphany
10. Gimp
11. BlueFish
12. MultiSync
13. Enemy Territory

-Erwos Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Linux/unix
0) mc (midnight commander, on windows I use turbo explorer, it can do everything even uncompact every archive I ever tried)
1) xmms
2) mplayer
3) lopster
4) gaim/amsn (great,great one, amsn.sf.net)
5) grip
6) nedit (for the rest)
7) xemacs for latex
8) gnomad (stuf for my creative jukebox)
9) gcombust
10) quake3 (really, I'm still enjoying it and there're tons of great, great mods)


I don't count latex, swi-prolog, acrobeat, gv and so on, it's part of my work...............


(and on mac os 8.x, it's finder pop....) Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:50:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I love juk in suse distribution, it's basicly a media player or something like iTunes for wind/Mac. I just wished it was more developed. Mon, 08 Dec 2003 01:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Winamp
IE
CoD Mon, 08 Dec 2003 02:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Often needed apps on my OpenStep-Box:

- Parasheet
- OpenWrite
- Framemaker
- JetPilot
- Scan-O-Matic
- Mail.app (the real one)
- Terminal.app
- CDDesigner Mon, 08 Dec 2003 07:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows XP

1. All the Windows Updates
2. Norton Antivirus
3. Winamp (for previewing Music)
4 iTunes (for my library needs after passing the winamp step)
5. Mirc
6. Texturizer
7. NVidia Drivers
8. Creative Soundblaster Drivers
9. Divx
10. Powerdvd
11. Region Free (or whatever lets me play my dvds)

Linux (Fedora Core 1)

1. mp3 playback for Xmms and Gstreamer
2. Gstreamer PLayer, Totem, Xine, Mplayer (yes the whole lot)
3. NVidia drivers
4. Firestarter

Its really hard, most things are just 'yum install foo' or 'apt-get install foo' away. I end up getting the latest beta versiobs of the stuff I already have anyway, so it doesn;t really count. Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows:
Photoshop
Dreamweaver
Cubase SX
Firebird
Thunderbird
iTunes
J2SE SDK
Nimo Codec Pack
VirtualWin
SSH Secure Shell Client
WinRar
ACDSee Classic
Nero
Vim 6.2
Acrobat Reader
MS Word
Eclipse
Cygwin

Linux:
Bash
Vim 6.2
J2SE SDK
Eclipse
KDE
Konsole
xmms
wget
tar
rgrep
Thunderbird
Firebird Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Windows XP Pro:

Full Windows Update
Samurize
Trillian Free
SmartFTP
Leechget 2003
NoAds
Emule
Nero
CdEx
IZArc
AnalogX FastCache
Page Defrag
Favorg
Motherboard Monitor
Ad-Aware
PeerGuardian
Panda Antivirus
BsPlayer
Winamp 2.91
K-Lite Codec Pack
Renoise Tracker
Some Games Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments