http://www.osnews.com/story/6212/Mini_Interview_with_Xandros_Executives Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2012, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:20:12 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Very intresting and informative. But....Ming Poon? lol... sorry... lol Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I really wishes theese guys all the luck they can get.
They are doing their best to give people a good desktop Linux-system and they are doing it with style and quality. You can even install Photoshop 7 on their OS!

But having used Linux at desktop since RH6.0 I finally gave up and after I got fed up with WinXP which I found to be too uncreative. After Eugina had given us what she thought was the best desktop OS last year I made the "switch". (Think of a fruit-companys commercial and you will know what I mean)

I hope that Xandros will be waiting for me when I return to the x86-family in a distant future! Mon, 01 Mar 2004 20:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I'm glad Xandros is doing what they can to make a user friendly linux distro, but is their software GPL'd? Are they contributing work to the scene they are tapping for their income? I wish them the best, but i don't expect to ever buy their software. Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Cool to hear from them, but this interview was way too "mini". None of the questions really probed into the behind the scenes actions going on over there. I was able to correctly guess the gist of all the answers before I read them. Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:39:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? It's true that a little controversy goes a long way toward stirring interest. With all due respect, this reads like a pre-written press release. No offense intended. It just doesn't dig into anything that Xandros might be reluctant to answer. Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:20:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Ming Poon is one of my favorite japanese porn actors! Love the Name! Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I still miss one thing in Xandrso and that is a dutch
user interface is holding me back of putting it on users desktop like we do with Lindows.
Secondly i get crazy of all passwords you have to put in for every network share samba or NFS if oyu select the option connect and disconnect at login in the mount menu.

its so much more easy to just edit /etc/init.d/mount_shares.. Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? >"A little too mini"
That's what they said about the Cooper and nowadays it's a classic. :-D Tue, 02 Mar 2004 00:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I've yet to see a distro that would install flawlessly on most laptops, especially the newer ones. I know the story so no need to remind me... it's just that if Xandros achieves this with some degree of success I know a lot of Linux users would be really glad. Tue, 02 Mar 2004 01:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Just checked linuxcertified.com for the laptops advertised with Xandros... all I can say is -- Coooool! Tue, 02 Mar 2004 02:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Is Xandros in the blacks, or in the reds? Is their cash flow positive or negative? Are they achieving profitablity? I'm just wondering. I hope they do, this company is a remarkable company with a clear vision, a clear market focus, and great products. Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? bxb32001: I've found LindowsOS to have the best laptop support. It is the only dist where acpi, hibernate on lid-close and my synaptic touchpad has worked with scroll area out-of-the-box. Centrinos are supported as well and wireless network cards.

Rajan R: As I've understood it Xandros had some serious problems with cash until 2.0. Xandros 2 has sold very well though and they should now how enough cash for operating for quite a while - hopefully they'll make it to 3.0 without any hiccups.
In fact I've heard Xandros has recently hired more people and opened a new office...

Ok, Xandros and Lindows seem to be doing well. Now what about Lycoris? Seems they have problems delivering new technologies on the desktop and though I believe a stable and mature product weighs heavier than bleeding-edge, I do think you get to a point where it's not defendable anymore.
Lycoris must leave the KDE 2.2/GTK 1.2 era now or they'll be doomed on the desktop! Tue, 02 Mar 2004 09:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? The interview is just a marketing Gag and a waste of time to read-
Lets face it: Xandros Inc. has not done a good job in Europe. Why? Xandros hired some German distributor to sell Xandros 2.0. The did and invested some Money front up for Marketing and PR. But without informing the Europe Distributors, Xandros made a Deal with Linuxland AG - a Publisher for Linux Magazines, enabled Linuxland do spread more then 60.000 Standard Xandros 2.0 Version as a DVD Supplement for free to they're Reader. More over, Linuxland also sold this Magazines including DVD in Germany, Austria and Swiss. So, the long term Distributor are upset, very upset and they going do quit there Business with Xandros Inc. BTW: I don't know what Mr. Pon Ming is talking about. Fact is: Since Version 1.0 the Europe Distributors are keep telling Xandros that for Europe ISDN-Support is a MUST not a nice do have Feature. But still Xandros comes whiteout ISDN Support at all. Furthermore, particular in Austria we have some Brand Laptop which are not sold in US - but although Xandros knows about that - no Support. In all Reviews we read that there will be a Free Download CD. And now there is still no Download CD. The guys talking about "carefully" selecting Business Partner. I could hit the roof, while reading this. The General Manager of Sales for Europe is from Greece, he has not proven Record and made Mistakes over Mistakes. He is the one who made the Deal with Linuxland - afterwards he said, "I didn't know that Linuxland was doing Promotion with Full versions I always thought this are Demo-CD". Great. Xandros Inc. lost income from around 60.000 Licences.
Xandros is not making any money right now. The are deep in red. So big pressure comes from the VC. Xandros Inc. is working on a Business-Edition, great! But why not putting a bug free Version (Oh yes, Xandros 2.0 is still buggy)in the Market, gaining some Market share and then move on with the Business-Edition. Step-by-step Strategy. Another Issue: No Xandros Inc. announced a SP1. But what will the SP1 include?
Business Edition is supposed to address Business I guess. But as of now there is no ISP who would go in to that Business. And I can assure that no Manager will go for Xandros if he cannot be sure do get Support from a Austrian or German Company. Or will the Developer from Xandros comer over to Austria and customize and support Xandros 2.0 Business Edition?

I could continue about the mis-mangemement here in Europe. Yes it is a good Product, but Xandros has to do lot more than just talking and making wrong Decision. Here in Europe this is Suse Country, if Xandros will get some Marketing Share they have to do better in any way. Tue, 02 Mar 2004 11:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? As far as I can see : the two top distro in France are Mandrake and Debian...
Mandrake has the best langage support in regional region from french to wallon, breton, basque, catalan and so more.....

All the hype about lindows, lycoris and xandros is non sence since you can't just by them in usual resellers....


I've heard that the most downloaded distro in us is mandrake, is that true ????? Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? According to the official Sales #
1. Suse
2. Mandrake
3. Red Hate Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Sales no doesn't prove who's the biggest. SuSE isn't for free as mandrake and redhat and debian isn't for sale at all.

Btw, where did you get those official sales #? Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:33:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? In Austria, Germany and Swiss you can get this # from montly Polls done by the popular leading Linux Magazins.
You can also get a BOX-Version of Mandrake or Debian amoung otheres via Web shop see http://www.linuxland.de/katalog/01_linuxdistri_bs/mandrake/liste
'cause not every one has a fast broadband Internet connection. Tue, 02 Mar 2004 18:54:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? "We burned through literally tens of thousands of CD-Rs in the development and QA cycle"

Literally tens of thousands of CDR must mean at LEAST 20,000 CDs and lets say that each takes just 5 minutes to burn with one minute in between to take out old disc and put in new that would be 120,000 minutes. We'll divide that by 60 to get 2000 hours. If they have 2 computers burning CDs for 10 hours a day NON-STOP (no breaks for lunch or otherwise) it would take 100 solid days of work. If they worked 5 days a week, that would be 20 weeks or more than 5 months.

The above number don't strain credibility, they snap it in two. Might as well say you tested it on a million CDRs.

And why does it take 2 people to answer these powder puff questions? Wed, 03 Mar 2004 00:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I'm a windows user since 1995 but time to time I go ahead and try other operating programs just to see how do they doing against giant "microsoft", so far I've tested Mandrake, gentoo, suse, redhat and latest was Xandros; I must say there is a huge improvements on the software but still some weird things happening and somehow I just cant get answer from xandrossupport department providing that my xandros version 2.0 and registered to xandros network..
-I've installed opera browser from xandros network then I've try to get short cut for this application to my desktop and I did, but application stop responding and so far no one knows why.
-Build in palm pilot application just did not worked they suggest I should use serial connection. I've have usb connection cradle that I can not use; why, no one knows.
-I tried install thirth party application which call Jpilot for my palm "by the way I've got this application from debian site" I've folow their instruction and I did instal but somehow application got disappear and no one knows why.
For modern operating systems this kind problems should not be issue but with xandros does!!!
So XANDROS that does not worked.. Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:31:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments