http://www.osnews.com/story/6552/FreeBSD_5_2_1_on_SPARC64 Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:39:53 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? And this is just a question, not to take anything away from BSD. Why, after spending all the money on a SPARC, would you want to run a BSD on it? Why wouldn't you just run Solaris which is optimized for it? Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Hotmail is powered by Windows 2000 not FreeBSD.

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.hotmail.com


No wonder its been crappy out lately : Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? FreeBSD on Sparc64 is also year 2038 compliant . Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:43:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It used to be though. Although I think the Author should have specified that. Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "Hotmail is powered by Windows 2000 not FreeBSD. "

I don't think so. Last time this conversation came up, it was apparent that microsoft was still running FreeBSD but just doing a really good job at hiding it. If you use certain url's, you'll see that FreeBSD is still doing the hefty work. Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? is even doc`s from ms on the web to prove it, and a friend knows the Indian, wich name I can`t remember made hotmail, not possible to convert 4 million accounts+++++ Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? your hdd was running in WDMA mode. Try using atacontrol to enable UDMA33 (in case the drive supports it ) Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Why does MS use FreeBSD for thier Hotmail service instead of thier own Windows OS? There own product aint up to the challenge? Heh. Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? There have been several threads on freebsd-current@ lately about performance issues with MySql. Most of them boil down to either the threading library being used to compile MySql (iirc linuxthreads seems faster and more stable than the alternatives), or (mis)configurations of the DNS resolver. I don't know what compile-time options were used to build the binary you tested, but perhaps you should look into the above issues before blaming the hard disc or the kernel of the operating system itself or anything else. Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The company they bought hotmail from originally had it on BSD. They claim to have switched most of it over to Windows, but this article claims otherwise: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/tildeMisc/2001/2001-MS-BSD.htm... This article is almost 3 years old though, so take it with a grain of salt. Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Yes, yes, they do. However, they've been trying to convert HoTMaiL over to Windows and IIS from the first day they owned it. They had horrible failures trying to convert to NT4 Server. They had moderate success with Windows 2000. But, last I heard, they only converted over the front-end webservers to use Win2K and IIS. The backend database servers are still on Solaris, and the mail servers or DNS servers or something is still running FreeBSD 4.x.

To the public, it looks like they are using Windows technology. Behind the scenes, there's very little Windows in use. Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Solaris is truly one of the best implementations of UNIX derivatives whether closed source or Open Source. And it's binary compatible with so much Linux code. If you have never run it, go to sun.com and download it. It's industrial strength and fully 64-bit for Solaris and will be 64-bit for AMD64.

- Andrew Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? will freebsd run on ultraspark 3 and 4 processors? Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ...to have FreeBSD running at least in sun4m (sigh*) ....would be really, really cooooool....

Bsdero Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:49:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? How do you know this? Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? y wont freebsd run on unltra sparc processors? Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? but OSnews lov Redhat??
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.osnews.com Thu, 01 Apr 2004 03:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=login.passport.com
at least some gateway machines run FreeBSD i guess...

anyway back on topic, I wish I had a sparc64 machine to test FreeBSD Sparc port on it. Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? As noted in the release notes for 5.2, this branch is still in heavy development and is not optimized for performance. You should not expect good benchmark performance from it. This should hopefully be substantially addressed by 5.3, at least as far as network performance goes. Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:15:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? LinuxThreads is the way to go ( http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html ) on FreeBSD right now -- too bad it's only ported for i386. Recently users have reported success using MySQL with the new KSE (libpthread) threading library. I would love to see you revisit this comparison (and throw Linux 2.6 in) when FreeBSD 5.x goes -STABLE with version 5.3. Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I can see FBSD being nice on the UltraSparc platform... I run 5.2 on two 4 way Alpha 2100's it is rock solid, fast and easy to use.

The FreeBSD folks in #freebsd on freenode are very very helpful too! Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:46:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? OK.. this guy can't find a terminal emulator (hint, TeraTerm, Windows Hyperterminal?) that does a VT100 emulation??? Fri, 02 Apr 2004 03:09:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I wonder if the author disabled all of the debugging options, which are enabled by default in the GENERIC kernel for the 5.x branch, and recompiled the kernel? I've noticed performance increases after these were disabled. Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The reviewer was running 5.2.1-RELEASE. The 5.x releases have debugging options turned off. Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Don't use the arrow keys, use - and + to move around. Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Just use OpenBSD or NetBSD for Sun4M, I run both at home. OpenBSD on a SS-5 (170MHz) with a QFE for a router/firewall/www/ssh and then NetBSD on a SS-LX just for fun.
Great machines. Sun, 04 Apr 2004 08:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? The default kernel has a fair amount of debug stuff compiled in. It used to warn you of that in /usr/src/UPDATING.

Try compiling the kernel with the debugging options removed and you should see a speed improvement. Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:41:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I tried a 5.1 for Sparc and had trouble with ports. I finally gave up and decided to wait for a more stable version. I will give this a try.

I also had the same experience with the keyboard during installation. It is a lot easier to install on X86 hardware. Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:18:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments