Jamie Clarkson released a screenshot of his work on a Mesa3d port to Syllable. In other news: Syllable 0.5.3 is slated to come out the 1st or 2nd in May. This release has many new features including: a updated Radeon driver, a VMWare driver, a new ATA driver, new Yamaha DS-XG drivers, new install scripts, and a whole lot more. This release also contains a humongus number of patches by the whole Syllable team for GCC 3.x. More info here.
MESA Port Coming to Syllable and More
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I have been working on a updated chat client for Syllable. More details to be released in the weeks to come.
Syllable is my favorite “really alternative” OS. I didn’t like non-opensource projects like some Zeta and other BeOS clones, etc. They will have no future against Windows or Linux.
I think it have chance to become as popular as BeOS was.
What happened with AtheOS’s author ? I never understood why he ended AtheOS development…
I’ve gotten Syllable 0.5 to boot in VMWare, but it wouldn’t boot for real on my PC. It would always kernel panic when I would try to boot it from the CD so I could run the installer.
If any of the Syllable team reads this thread, would it be helpful for me to write down the exact messages I got at the time of the kernel panic and report them with my hardware configuration?
Even thinking about switching from BeOS development to Syllabe activity.
“If any of the Syllable team reads this thread, would it be helpful for me to write down the exact messages I got at the time of the kernel panic and report them with my hardware configuration?”
Yes, it would.
Does this mean just software rendering, or will they use mesa
mostly for making stubs and implement hardware acceleration for varios cards.
Lately I’ve been looking for a lightweight OS to do my hobby coding on. Linux has gotten too heavy. BeOS fits the bill, but it is still in catchup mode since Be Inc.’s demise. (Props to the OBOS guys) But Syllable is starting to look like a viable option. I especially like the multi-userness of it. SkyOS looks cool too, but it is closed source, so I choose not to trust it.
The install process of Syllable is better than Gentoo Linux (which is my current desktop OS), but still there is much room for improvement.
Looks good guys, keep up the good work.
Marcelo: Atheos’s author simply stopped working on it and become interested in aircraft instead.
Mike: most booting problems are because of the flakey IDE driver. This issue is being resolved.
dialup.online.no: The gui won’t be done in OpenGL. Hardware OpenGL acceleration should come oneday, but not for a while. There is alot to be worked on beforehand.
Timbo: you can install it manually without using the installer too. The installer is still in its early days yet.
I’d like to see a Qt port, right now I can only write software on Windows and Linux because there are no Qt ports for SkyOS or Syllable š .
Qt-X11 is GPLed so I don’t see any problems with making a port for Syllable, you just need to find someone to do the job.
If there’s no Qt port then a good IDE with documentation and a beginners tutorial (and maybe some sort of GUI designer if you can do that) will work, I’ve thought of learning GTK ever since it was ported to SkyOS but my research into it shows that it has stability issues when using threads in Windows.
There are a whole bunch of tutorials at: http://www.other-space.com/sub/ As for an IDE: I am working on one, there is also CodeEdit(which mine is loosely based on), also Masquerade(http://masquerade.beosmax.org/) is coming to Syllable soon
. A GUI designer has been developed before, for AtheOS, but I nor anybody else can find it now 
Andrew Brown, if you are around, could you please send me the source for InterfaceBlocks???
Vanders does not want a QT port. And since he’s the man in charge ..
Why not a WxWidgets/GTK+ port ? It would be a multiplatform way to make programs with GUI with C++ and it would not be license problems …
I’ve thought of learning GTK because its ported to more operating systems then Qt but versions 2.4 and under can’t do threading stably in Windows, I don’t know about 2.6. Qt is also better suited for C++, for example GTK+ and GTKmm still use char arrays instead of strings although converting between the two couldn’t be that hard I guess. Comparing the two however I think that Qt is much more powerful despite only having taken a very brief look at GTK.
As for wxWidgets thats a possibility although GTK would be preferable if the threading issue is resolved in Windows because as far as I know its been ported to more platforms.
I don’t really see any licensing issues though unless you want to make you’re derivative works closed source, the GPL under which Qt is licensed allows for forking. Personally I couldn’t care what license you chose to put you’re work under as long as it works although I do preffer open source licenses because that allows for improvements and derivative works.