http://www.osnews.com/story/7393/ANNOUNCEMENT_Announcing_GnomeFiles_org Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2009, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:40:17 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This is fantastic. One thing KDE has that Gnome doesn't is a swarm of sites dedicated to collecting apps for it. Although gnome.org and the collective that stretches around it is awesome (and the sites are 1000 times nicer looking than the KDE ones), a central Gnome site is going to be huge. Good luck. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I guess this was it with OSnews.com's desktop neutrality - if there was any. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? You are mixing business with reporting and you forget history:

I wrote that engine years ago and I couldn't really use it because every major platform already had a website with apps for it, so it was feeling like a lost cause. When the Gnome.org repository went down, we saw the opportunity and we took it (in fact the idea sprang into our minds only a few days ago). If that was another platform without a software repository, probably we would have gone for it. Reporting on OSNews doesn't change in any way (gnomefiles.org and OSNews are different sites anyway). Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Be aware that any critical comment about this will be deleted (instead of just being modded down). Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:29:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? You really want to put that in one of the vacant sidebars. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:42:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I don't see why we need this when we already have Freshmeat.net Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:44:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Freshmeat has a lot of Linux/OSX/Palm/other software all in one. KDE has kde-apps.org and it is very popular, exactly because it is specific to KDE. We thought that we could help the Gnome platform by doing so the same. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Cool! Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:47:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Good to here, I'll be visiting this site regularly, thanx Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? very good idea. But it is only as good as the people who actually use it.

Hopefully the Gnome and gtk app developers will take the time to submit their stuff to Gnome Files. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ment hear Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:01:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? i am an avid reader of gnomedesktop.org and i will add this site to my list Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Gnome apps and credit card ads. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This is wonderful. Wow. Eugenia I think this is a great idea-and provided that other gnome/gtk developers sieze this oppurtunity you may just have made a significant contribution to the GNOME community. I trully hope that developers/hackers can take advantage of this new site to publicize their applications and libraries. I also hope that enough developers/hackers can appreciate what is being offered at this new site without the notorious OSNEWS flame wars playing a detrimental role-ie. developers reluctant to use to the site due to cross-association. I look forward to the development of this new site-and will in all likelihood frequent it quite often. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? >Gnome apps and credit card ads.

Someone's gotta pay the bills. Besides, that's why we are offering *free* advertising to four developers that will win the equivelant prize. This way, at least some of the ads will be really gnome-specific.

I haven't talked this at all with the GnomeFiles.org owner (you just gave me the idea , but I might be able to persuade him to do rounds of free advertising every month for some listed apps. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? That sounds like a problem with your browser. Install a regex ad filter. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? You beat us with a few weeks distance. Congratulations!

http://gnome-apps.berlios.de/ Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:52:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This is a exact rip off from kde-apps.
Please Gnome people: Inovate, don't imitate

Hans Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? No, this is an exact rip-off from BeBits.com (if you want to be more exact).

In fact, we wrote this engine in 2001, LONG before kde-apps existed. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I don't like that gnome is so close to GTK. I like GTK apps, I love how they look and that they just need the GTK libs, but gnome apps need like a thousand terabytes in libs, that you must download and have wasting your RAM.
Long live GTK. Mmmm...good for gnome.... Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? First of all, kudos for the initiative, it's great (although I use KDE, there are lots of Gnome apps I love, such as Pan).

I just think all that red characters in the middle are a bit hard to read, made my eyes feel tired, but maybe it's because I've been programming for 12 hours now Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? You beat us with a few weeks distance. Congratulations!

http://gnome-apps.berlios.de/

I like the layout of this site alot better.

It would be nice to see gnomeapps adopt this layout. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:28:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? >It would be nice to see gnomeapps adopt this layout.

That layout doesn't scale well for the amount of categories and subcategories we have on Gnomefiles. Also, that layout has "news", while we don't plan to make gnomefiles anything more than a software repository. Some news will be provided from Gnomedesktop's XML feed though, in the frontpage. There are two more sidebars I need to code... Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:57:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well, we now have Gnome-look.org

http://www.gnome-look.org/

And given that the infrastructure and coding work for kde-apps.org has already been done and that the guy who created the site doesn't mind you using it, why don't you use that?

Additionally, it would be easier, i.e.,more mnemonic for people to remember. And both gnome-apps.org and kde-apps.org could link to each other.

Finally, the gnomefiles layout is pathetic. I hope this is not how it will look in its final incarnation. For someone who often critiques other's aesthetic sense, this page leaves a lot to be desired. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Gnome-look is (currently) only for themes. Their site version that is for apps isn't out yet.

>the gnomefiles layout is pathetic

For something that was coded in the last 2 days, it's good enough. Overtime, we plan to beef it up. Other more important things are still broken before we go ahead and beautify it.

Again, the layout (not the aesthetics, these are different things) is similar to BeBits, so overtime Gnomefiles will look as good as well. I much prefer BeBits over *any* other software repository online today. It is fast to load, easy to render, makes sense. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:22:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Osnews.com managing and hosting gnomefiles.org, a news site with a wide range of areas which it should cover objectively and a software archive which is limited to a very small amount of software, is not a good idea in my opinion. Considering this even starts with "award prizes" for contributors avoiding a bias will be hard... Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:34:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Read the "moderated down" area for more info. There is no bias towards anything. We simply had a software repository engine, it was offline for 3 years, we decided to put it back up, we evaluated which platform needed it the most, and we went for it. There is no reason for unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:40:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well. its well known fact that you like beos and gnome. so I dont think there is any conspiracy theory. its quite obvious. I dont think anybody needs to complain about this thou. I dont think Osnews is prejudiced.

Will you be making this software you code under any kind of open source license. just curious. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I Agree and the layout looks more like an official GNOME site. Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:58:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "I don't see why we need this when we already have Freshmeat.net"

It's obvious, gnomefiles has a nicer looking site than freshmeat. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It is good to see more 3rd party, GNOME-related websites up and running. This is indeed an area where KDE has an edge, and since it is part of quality & information, getting on part with the competitor -which improves quality of both- is a Good Thing.

Nice thing on the prices as well. I have a question on the prices: does the winner have to advertise for a GNOME-related application? What if it is a FLOSS one (LGPL)? How long does the offer stand? What if the application is still in alpha stage?

FM is getting pretty thick and don't accept some new applications. Some people get fed up with all the K/G frontend or "frontend" GUItjes so decentralizing this to other websites isn't necessarily bad. Also keep in mind, FM isn't the only software repository website. And finally regarding the banners: OSDN websites (includes FM) have those too. They're used to raise some profit for their hard work, but you can always disable banners in several ways if you prefer. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? >does the winner have to advertise for a GNOME-related >application? What if it is a FLOSS one (LGPL)?

I guess it's fine.

>How long does the offer stand?

As David pointed out, it will be a volume that's worth $50. I am not sure how many impressions that is as I don't deal with the ads on this site. David?

>What if the application is still in alpha stage?

This shouldn't be a problem if you are a winner. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm really glad to see gnomefiles.org go up. I think it is needed. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:38:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Yes! Very bebits-like. I like it -- except like Rod said: too much red.

I'd also like to have a way to search/browse by implementation language (C, C++, Java-GNOME, C#, Python, whatever). Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:13:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? As far as I'm concerned, whoever wins the advertising prizes will be able to advertise for anything that meets our minimum standards of decency and acceptablity. If you'd like to advertise your blog or use them to propose marriage to your significant other, that's fine. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:53:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I'm a Mac user who's switching off OS X after trying my friends Debian computer (running Gnome). Linux has everything I need and use, including great security, flexibility, is open and free and won't try to "lock me in" to anything. This site looks GREAT and I'm already bookmarking apps I'm interested in. Thanks!

Matt Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:51:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Someone seems to have forgotten that you can run just about all linux software (including Gnome related apps) on OSX. Fink is one project thta cones to kind (fink.sf.net). Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:06:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Oh my god... I really need to check my spelling before I post . /me hides in shame. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? It seems that the site is flooded with "Helix Player" releases... Moreover, it is only accessible through gnomefiles.org/index.php, not gnomefiles.org

Interesting anyway :-) Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? someone should add Gnome itself to the repository ;-)
some icons for each major category wouldn't hurt either Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:08:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? ANNOUNCEMENT: Are you a Web Developer for OSNEWS?
Then, the fact that there is an announcement for a story on top of the page of that very same story is most certainly of interest to you. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:45:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? This has got to be the first time that a 'bible study' application has a made 'most popular' and 'best voted' lists. What gives? Are these placed votes or did that really happen? Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? They have internet on the Vatican too you know! Either that or it's a miracle :-D Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Just what Gnome needs I think. Also I personally like the look. It's no nonsense and easy on the eyes, just like a site like this should be.
Well done! Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:30:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? "This has got to be the first time that a 'bible study' application has a made 'most popular' and 'best voted' lists. What gives? Are these placed votes or did that really happen?"

The Bible is suppose to be the most printed book out their. Anyway this new site is nice for answering the question "What apps are there for my Gnome dektop?" Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? Well I for one voted for it. And yes, that is a miracle. God's creations are all miracles. Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I love the site and am very appreciative that it is now here. However, the red text is distracting. Could this font color be changed? Also, I think the centering of the text in the "Software Categeories" section in the middle of the page is hard to follow. Other than these 2 suggestions, it looks great. Thanks!! Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:10:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I agree with the red being a bit much, and it's only getting worse with every added application. It is just a little over powering. Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:24:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? OSnews.org is with every month more and more looking like Microsoft behaviour. Posters are censored left and right (with no apparent standard other than a disagreeing opinion), the website is retooled for more Ads and more cash, the re-design is a monumental failiure in usability and resembles some bloatware Microsoft released and then it's fixed with what amounts to a patch before public outcry...

.. and now, in disregard for even the most basic journalistic objectivity it goes on to make a website for a particular flavour of product (which is even my favourite, which is besides the point). Astounding! Even more when the launch is propelled by even more ADS - ironically, Ads announcing more Ads - and a weird prize technique to propell it. Every single behaviour that is morally shady has pretty much been explored.

Even more reprehensible, when a site to counteract KDE's way already was and is in the works with the correct WWW adress. Site, which, btw, sports a clearly superior - and ontopic - design (again, where Ms. Loli finds the nerve to chastise other's design works when her's are clearly and repeatedly inferior is a bewildering mystery to me.)

It seems as though this site is obsessed about Ads, and Market share of OS topic sites in which to sport them. Again, the sad face of human greed rears it's ugly head - Bizarre it is that it so happens on a site so frequented by the OpenSource community. Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:55:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://osnews.com/thread? http://osnews.com/thread? I agree about the look and feel. Personally I like the look and feel of download.com and its ability to sort by the headers. Simtel has a new look and feel and its looking much better.

If the people from gnomefiles want to compare to other download sites they should check out this list: http://www.ehtml.com/shareware/ Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:26:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments