XFce is an easy-to-use and easy-to-configure environment for X11 based on GTK+ 2. Various bugfixes including cropped icons with recent GTK+ 2.4 releases were fixed in this new version.
XFce 4.0.6 Released
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but then again, I do not like the way it works. I prefer full blown GNOME, not just GTK+
XFCE is getting on the fatty side. So, I’ll stick with Fluxbox when in need of those extra cycles, and GNOME when I’m feeling lazy. Stil XFCE is cool, I hope the lighten the load soon, prefereably drop some of the DE aspects.
But it’s still alot lighter than Gnome.
Why should they drop the desktop aspects of it. I would guess that it’s purpose is to be a step up from the boxes and not as full blown as Gnome.
Jim,
when are you going to stop trolling? You have been doing it for the past few threads and keep on spewing bullshit on every Linux thread.
Listen, most development houses have their application build-up scripted. Ask the guys at Ximian how they managed to build something as complex as Gnome for a whole bunch of environments.
Psst… Thats what a distribution is for. Don’t like mandrake, try a different one.
Anyone know of one for the new kde and gnome?
i love xfce! great desktop environment
Is there a way of cycling trough windows where windows are raised (what’s the proper term for this anyways).
Last time I checked, XFCE only offered MS Windows (TM) like cycling.
“XFCE is getting on the fatty side. So, I’ll stick with Fluxbox when in need of those extra cycles, and GNOME when I’m feeling lazy. Stil XFCE is cool, I hope the lighten the load soon, prefereably drop some of the DE aspects.”
In case you didn’t notice, you can drop whatever you don’t want by not building it.
“Looking at that page is is clear which packages you must download to satisfy dependencies?”
Quite clear. Stop being lazy and click on the documentation link.
Man was those croppy icons annoying
Good thing they are fixed now 
, I really enjoy using XFce 4 on my laptop. I think FluxBox is a little too light for me, so I go for something in the middle like XFce 4 which really works great!
“but then again, I do not like the way it works. I prefer full blown GNOME, not just GTK+”
You’re not making any sense.
Even though what he wrote might not have been totally clear, anyone who knows what gnome, xfce and gtk+ is could guess what he meant.
He prefers a full gtk+ DE, not just gtk+ applications. I think you’re just acting up dumb…
“He prefers a full gtk+ DE, not just gtk+ applications. I think you’re just acting up dumb…”
And how is XFCE4 not a “full gtk+ DE” exactly? It provides all the same core facilities that gnome does, from a file manager to a setting daemon.
You might think again.
>> Say they have 10 packages for the 3 last versions of the 10
>> most popular distros. That is 300 packages they must build
>> and test for every version release, depending on the
>> magnitude of the application, one could easilly understand
>> how testing and supporting this could become more work than
>> writing and supporting the application itself.
Then use Autopackage or the Bitrock installer for all of them at once.. sigh.. you people are just making things hard for yourself…..
excellent – i have long used xfce as it is really geared to getting work done. sensible “frills” like wheel-roller window shades, modular build to save cpu/mem/space … enough “features” to be useful (iconisation, menu, virtual desktops)… looking forward to one misisng feature – forcing windows to stay on top – at the moment only some apps will enforce this such as recent gkrellm.
when i use it – i forget it there – and that;s the way it should be. and its design is doen well – does not irritate.
i personally never use the file manage,r primt manager, session saver, or anyting like that …
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XFCE worked for me, best DE out there hands down.
The Always-On-Top feature is reported to be in CVS and will be present once XFce 4.2 released.
I use XFce for quite a while now, and I think it’s the best, for me at least. XFce is by no means bloated, because it has a great modular design. I, for example, will probably not use the session manager once released, as I’ve no need for it, and the environment doesn’t force me to use it either.
I know people do have varied tastes, and it is your right to have those. But I’ve seen several whiny comments around here and I find it very disrespectful. This is an open source project, in which developers spend hundreds of hours of their free time, without being paid for anything. I think they are doing a tremendous job.
If you don’t like something, it is your right. But perhaps it would be better to explain why and in a not so degrading manner.
They really do not owe you a single thing, after all.
It would be interesting to see the results of a rerun of the 2002 “Quick Poll on Linux and X11 Environments” in OSNews.
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1299
I assume that XFCE4 has become much more popular than XFCE (version 3.x) was in those days.
fbpanel gives you a more windows like panel and being gtk2 will go with your themes. But I don’t think there is a way to exit from it gracefully, as xfce needs either it’s panel running or the right click menu to select exit. I couldn’t find anyway to call the exit function.
I guess you can just kill it but you’d probably lose session management support.
http://fbpanel.sourceforge.net/
These days I don’t boot into Linux very often, but XFCE is my desktop of choice. Sure, it isn’t perfect, but it’s the only DE I can bear to use on my ancient box (which I won’t be upgrading anytime soon, because it works perfectly under Windows — and this is all I neeed for my work). CVS version has quite a few new and long-awaited features (fd.o menu implementation, session manager etc). Can’t wait when they implement the panel properly (with full drag-n-drop support). Also icons on the desktop would be good to have, regardless what many would say
Too bad there isn’t a single full-featured, STANDALONE GTK file manager. I use Rox; it’s fast and does its job well, but lacks features (most notably — tree view) and UI is a little bit rough and forces RISC OS UI ideology on you…
I guess that you’re using debian unstable
Using mandrake cooker:
urpmi.update -a && urpmi –auto-select
Software companies make static builds, so that they only release 1 bin for every distro out there.
Too bad there isn’t a single full-featured, STANDALONE GTK file manager. I use Rox; it’s fast and does its job well, but lacks features (most notably — tree view) and UI is a little bit rough and forces RISC OS UI ideology on you…
My feelings exactly. I’ve looked several times but didn’t turn up much.
directhex you forgot the need to an update first before you go about installing xfce4 or any other packages for that matter i.e. it should have been ‘apt-get update && apt-get install xfce4’. Subsequent upgrades of all packages is however like the way have spelt it out to be more or less but it is probably that all users spend some time going through and understanding changelogs and bug reports fetched by tools like apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs.
“It would be interesting to see the results of a rerun of the 2002 “Quick Poll on Linux and X11 Environments” in OSNews.”
Agree, I support this.
I installed 4.12 CVS in gentoo and the thing I hated in other Window Managers was put in XFCE. I uninstalled it in 30 minutes. Like the ugly Welcome screen with stuff scrolling by. C’mon developers we dont need a XFCE KDE clone or an XFCE Gnome clone. I hope 4.06 does not have all that or else I am happy with 4.05.
“I installed 4.12 CVS in gentoo and the thing I hated in other Window Managers was put in XFCE. I uninstalled it in 30 minutes. Like the ugly Welcome screen with stuff scrolling by”
can you find even more petty things to rant on?
damn it!! this is really pissing. I just installed XFCE4.05 yesterday on FreeBSD
Just want to add that I use XFCE on an older laptop and it works great. Much faster than KDE.
Too bad there isn’t a single full-featured, STANDALONE GTK file manager. I use Rox; it’s fast and does its job well, but lacks features (most notably — tree view) and UI is a little bit rough and forces RISC OS UI ideology on you..
agree on the UI thing, emelFM2 is the other standalone gtk2 filemanager I can think of, again, not satisfactory.