http://www.osnews.com/story/8725/Book_Review_Mono_A_Developer_s_Notebook Exploring the Future of Computing en-us Copyright 2001-2012, David Adams adam+nospam@osnews.com Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:12:21 GMT http://www.osnews.com/images/osnews.gif http://www.osnews.com http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? someone ? Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? one more for the collection, and it fit the budget nicely considering it was 10bucks (used, from a friend) Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:59:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? The first pass at Gtk# 2.0, which is based off of Gtk+ 2.4 should be hitting cvs soon. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:21:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Despite the emphasis on Mono, this is the best GTK+/GNOME development book on the market, even for developers who do not want to use Mono. The book could be 'ported' to any of the major GNOME bindings - C, C++, Python, Java - and still be fantastic, because it is just so clear, informative and concise. Bloody good job, Edd and Niel. :-) Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:02:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Is it a coincidence that all the book reviews are books featured on amazon? Do I smell a kickback (translates into $$) for positive reviews? Of course I could be paranoid that osnews is now being driven from the backseat by advertising of products. I really just want tech news minus the ads and the referrals to buy stuff for which I have not the money for. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? For a beginner?

Or anything good online as a start? I guess with more a mono gtk# focus rather than learning window.forms Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:12:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Jeff,

Do you really mean that? Do others concur? I am trying to get into GTK+ development with C (I want to eventually work on Glade3), and am currently using The Official Gnome 2 Developer's Guide, which isn't bad, but definitely could be better. Would it be worth it for me to find a copy of this book to guide me through GTK+ development with C, or am I better off sticking with the Official Guide plus the online tutorials/API reference?

-Andrew Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:14:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? Nah, I think it just boils down to the fact that Amazon has many departments around the world and carries most technical books. Lots of places link to Amazon, simply because it's frankly a good service. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:17:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? The author meant C#. Windows.Form isnt covered in the book.

For a beginner, with no experince in programming or OOP, try http://www.functionx.com/csharp/Lesson01.htm [down ATM] or the other great tutorials on http://www.programmingtutorials.com Mon, 01 Nov 2004 02:19:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? If you know Java, Mono is remarkably easy to get into - it only took me an hour before I had mastered basic usage of Glade and C#.

Use the monodoc packages - they'll give you a quick start and the tools to help yourself along the way.

-Erwos Mon, 01 Nov 2004 03:00:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I agree with this sentiment, and i'm worried that his comment is under review. Especially considering the URL link to Amazon includes "osnews", which means OSNews must get something for the "referral". Mon, 01 Nov 2004 03:16:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? If there is some kind of system that allows them to profit a little bit I don't mind, OSNews is a free service, but rather costly to run I take.

I would mind if it said "Eugenia's personal cayman island account", but I don't mind OSNews trying to earn a few bucks like this, even though I doubt they will earn much. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 03:32:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I suggest you realize how the thing works people:
Book publishers are sending us books, we review them, and then we link to amazon or to ANY OTHER book store that gives some refferal money over the copies sold. Things you need to know, despite this been an off topic, topic:
1. ALL news sites do that. Check slashdot's third party book reviews too, they link to a referral site too.
2. I am not getting the money off the book sales. The osnews owner does. I am not the owner, so don't call "Eugenia" for everything and everyone cause it's pissing me off. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 03:56:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? The thing I would love is a book covering all of GTK and gnome in respect to c#. The hardest part for me has been trying to figure out how to develop to GTK and gnome in general (I've tried some of the widgets and been unable to find good documentation for them).

That said making a gnome application defenitley is simplified greatly thanks to mono (I'm guessing python is a pretty good language too but I've heard the documentation is pretty bad for gtk, gnome bindings).

Also all GTK stuff should be documented before the release of GTK# 2.0, this is great news for me atleast.

Next is what the future holds (from what I've gathered):
First is the already mentioned gtk# 2.0 which bind to the 2.4 api. I wonder why they arent' following the same versioning? Seems like it would be much more clear.

Next will be a UI built into Mono Develop for the debugger, next version I think.

Lastly will be the best part, the UI builder specifically for mono, that I'm guessing will be built into MD as well.

When all these are in place, more specifically the last two, then developing usin mono should be much simpler indeed. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 05:07:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? It doesn't cover a bunch of whackass C stuff you need to know, so you'll still have to ask questions and read other documents around the place. But for learning the fundamental ideas, it's great stuff. Well worth reading, even if you're targeting another language. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 07:11:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments http://www.osnews.com/thread? http://www.osnews.com/thread? I've found the python tutorials and references to be good info for gtk+ info.

Frankly, if you're just starting out with gtk+ it might be a good idea to learn the api with a higher-level language and then move onto C at a later point. The interactiveness of Python would make it pretty fun. Mon, 01 Nov 2004 14:03:00 GMT donotreply@osnews.com (Anonymous) Comments