Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Feb 2006 18:20 UTC, submitted by JustThinkIt
Windows "There's a lot of confusion about Windows Vista these days. Many online discussion forums have a great number of users who express no desire to upgrade to Vista. Sure, we've all seen the screenshots and maybe a video or two of Vista in action, but for many it only seems like new tricks for an old dog. Yeah, it's got some fancy 3D effects in the interface, but OS X has been doing that for years now, and it's still Windows underneath, right? The sentiment seems to be that Vista is another Windows ME. Perhaps part of the problem is that people just don't know what Vista has in store for them."
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it will be a comfy jail
by JoeBuck on Tue 28th Feb 2006 19:43 UTC
JoeBuck
Member since:
2006-01-11

I'm sure that Vista will crash a lot less, but there's a big price to be paid. The reason is that only people authorized by Microsoft will be allowed to produce driver code; without the correct digital signature, Vista will refuse to load drivers, and Microsoft has already said it doesn't plan to extend this privilege to the little guys and the hobbyists. This is part of a general lockdown to try to produce near-bulletproof DRM: any device you hook up to your PC will need to play by the rules of Microsoft and Hollywood. You can buy Vista, but Microsoft, not you, will decide what it will allow you to do or not to do.

Fortunately, many Microsoft customers are going to look at that and decide that XP is good enough.

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RE: it will be a comfy jail
by MamiyaOtaru on Tue 28th Feb 2006 20:08 in reply to "it will be a comfy jail"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

Vista will refuse to load drivers, and Microsoft has already said it doesn't plan to extend this privilege to the little guys and the hobbyists.

Which means no more KX drivers for Soundblaster ;)
http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/index.php?skip=1

A lot of people consider those superior to Creative's own drivers for various reasons (like http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/rear.php?language=en ). They worked quite well for me when I tried them, and it would be a shame if they were not available for Vista.

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siki_miki Member since:
2006-01-17

I wonder how well gamers will accept this when they realise starforce protected games won't run on Vista ;) Practically all recent game copy protections rely on some custom drivers, while starforce is a special pain in the ass. It sets breakpoints on other drivers to block disk access during cd-check and similar nasty things against cd/dvd emulators and debbuger tools, but even that isn't enough (Daemon-tools 4 beats it).

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PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

This only applies to x64 drivers for now. They won't ever be able to impose this on 32-bit windows.

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RE[2]: it will be a comfy jail
by sappyvcv on Wed 1st Mar 2006 04:30 in reply to "it will be a comfy jail"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Where did you hear this?

Please provide some sort of source that references something Microsoft said to back this up.

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RE: it will be a comfy jail
by rockwell on Wed 1st Mar 2006 17:10 in reply to "it will be a comfy jail"
rockwell Member since:
2005-09-13

//I'm sure that Vista will crash a lot less,//

Crash a lot less than what? My XP Pro box has crashed maybe four times in three years, and usually because I was farting around with overclocking.

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