Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Mar 2006 18:45 UTC
Linux "As a Linux user, there are times when you have to play nicely with users of Windows or Mac OS - such as when they send you Microsoft Word files. When you receive a Word file, you can either follow Richard Stallman's advice and refuse it, or bite the bullet and work with it. Modern Linux word processors - such as OpenOffice.org Writer, AbiWord, KWord, and TextMaker - can deal with most Word files. But if you don't want to fire up a word processor in order to read or print the document, you can turn to the command line. A handful of small but powerful Linux command line utilities make viewing, printing, and even converting Word files to another format, a breeze."
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RE: Stallman Stupidity
by manmist on Wed 1st Mar 2006 20:28 UTC in reply to "Stallman Stupidity"
manmist
Member since:
2005-12-18

"Thereby making you appear as a complete idiot to 99% of business users. "

Its very easy for business users to exchange pdf files. Supporting proprietary formats will only lead to more vendor lock in

"Use the CLI apps. Don't listen to the rantings of a madman."

and throw the freedom of using your data in multiple platforms, architectures and for a long time out of the window

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RE[2]: Stallman Stupidity
by rockwell on Wed 1st Mar 2006 20:47 in reply to "RE: Stallman Stupidity"
rockwell Member since:
2005-09-13

//Its very easy for business users to exchange pdf files. Supporting proprietary formats will only lead to more vendor lock in//

Spoken as someone who obviously doesn't work with many businesses outside tech ... a VAST MAJORITY of Word users still have no idea what the hell a PDF file even is ... irregardless if it's a better format.

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RE[3]: Stallman Stupidity
by ma_d on Wed 1st Mar 2006 21:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Stallman Stupidity"
ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

So what you're saying is that knowing your stuff is bad if other people don't know it as well?
Interesting... How did you come to this philosophy?

I seriously doubt most of said people are so incompetent that the words "PDF is a format more people can look at than word, and it's much better for presentation; that's why the Government uses it for public documents" are really beyond them? Maybe if you could hold your temper long enough to let off the shift key you'd be able to explain the sentence!

But no, let's leave users in the dark. That will work very well in the "Information Age."

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RE[3]: Stallman Stupidity
by Soulbender on Thu 2nd Mar 2006 09:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Stallman Stupidity"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Spoken as someone who obviously doesn't work with many businesses outside tech ... a VAST MAJORITY of Word users still have no idea what the hell a PDF file even is ... irregardless if it's a better format."

Thanks for missing the point entirely. He said it's easy to do, not that is is being done. What most people do and what can easily be done are two different things. Now, getting people to actually use open formats, that is the real challenge.

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RE[2]: Stallman Stupidity
by Morin on Wed 1st Mar 2006 20:52 in reply to "RE: Stallman Stupidity"
Morin Member since:
2005-12-31

> Its very easy for business users to exchange pdf files.

This doesn't help you if you get word files you *must* read, or *must* deliver word files. Of course, I'd use PDF whenever possible, but sometimes you don't have a choice (or would suffer sever penalties for not using word files).

PDF files are a preference, and a strong one indeed for the reasons you named. But as soon as you insist on using them just for the sake of it, you have disconnected from reality. And that is exactly what Stallman does.

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RE[3]: Stallman Stupidity
by ma_d on Wed 1st Mar 2006 21:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Stallman Stupidity"
ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

When I'm in doubt I usually send a .doc and a PDF. But if your documents are very large I could see how that would become a problem!

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Lettherebemorelight Member since:
2005-07-11

But as soon as you insist on using them just for the sake of it, you have disconnected from reality.

You are obviously confused as to why he doesnt want to use the MS word format.

I agree with him to a point. Just because someone else walks off a cliff doesnt necessarilly mean you should follow, but you can if you want to.

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