Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th Mar 2006 13:34 UTC, submitted by Moule
Novell and Ximian "It was not the best of quarters for Linux vendor Novell. When Novell announced its financial results for its first fiscal quarter, which ended Jan. 31, 2006, it reported revenue of $274 million [EUR 227 million], compared to revenue of $290 million [EUR 241 million] for the first fiscal quarter 2005. This was a decline from the previous quarter in which Novell had reported $320 million [EUR 266 million] of revenue."
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Shore-up the Ship
by transami on Sun 5th Mar 2006 15:34 UTC
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Member since:
2006-02-28

They should reduce the number of distros they have. Currently they have five: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, Novell Open Enterprise Server, Novell Linux Desktop, SUSE Linux and OpenSUSE. All they need is three: Open, Desktop and Enterprise.

Then they need to get HP and/or Dell to offer these preinstalled. That would make a significant difference.

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RE: Shore-up the Ship
by kaiwai on Sun 5th Mar 2006 16:00 in reply to "Shore-up the Ship"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, I think the greater thing is this; they have a good desktop coming up, but what will kill it is the lack of a decent ISV network; what Linux needs are the Adobes, Corels, Peachtree's and Ahead (Nero) of the world to start creating software for the platform.

Until that day happens, all these great new Linux desktops will be, just that, great operating systems with no commercial software running on them.

Sure, there are good server packages, but that's not what I'm talking about, I am talking about the desktop software that companies rely on each day, the accounting package, the label maker that the secretary uses etc. etc.

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RE[2]: Shore-up the Ship
by r2d2d3d4d5 on Sun 5th Mar 2006 16:12 in reply to "RE: Shore-up the Ship"
r2d2d3d4d5 Member since:
2005-12-31

Nero Linux has been out for a while:
http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html

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RE[2]: Shore-up the Ship
by segedunum on Sun 5th Mar 2006 18:34 in reply to "RE: Shore-up the Ship"
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2005-07-06

Well, I think the greater thing is this; they have a good desktop coming up...

Until that day happens, all these great new Linux desktops...

I don't know what you're talking about the Linux desktop for. That's the absolute least of Novell's worries, and it isn't their core business.

Edited 2006-03-05 18:36

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RE: Shore-up the Ship
by czubin on Sun 5th Mar 2006 16:53 in reply to "Shore-up the Ship"
czubin Member since:
2005-12-31

Opensuse is not a distro, it's just 'suse linux'.

for those that don't believe me then check out the description on the front page:
http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org

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RE[2]: Shore-up the Ship
by Dark_Knight on Sun 5th Mar 2006 19:55 in reply to "Shore-up the Ship"
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2005-07-10

Re: "They should reduce the number of distros they have. Currently they have five: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, Novell Open Enterprise Server, Novell Linux Desktop, SUSE Linux and OpenSUSE. All they need is three: Open, Desktop and Enterprise.

Have you compared this with the other major players Red Hat and Microsoft? The latter of which will provide several versions of Vista to meet global market requirements. While SLES and NOES target differant customers I believe we'll see a focus on one server implementation in the near future instead of two being offered. As for NLD this targets the enterprise market, not private markets which SUSE Linux 10 is targeting. Though it would be better for Novell to focus on one desktop instead of two. Since both NLD and SUSE Linux 10 can be tailored during installation to meet individual requirements whether for business or home then one client distribution instead of two would be better. This would allow more time to focus on fine tuning the distribution instead of spending additional time supporting both desktop distributions.

My personal preference whether for work or home is for what is offered in SUSE Linux 10 instead of using NLD. Though I admit I wish the support for SUSE Linux 10 was more extensive as compared to NLD. Anyway, my preference for a desktop GUI is KDE because I'm a former Windows user who wants ease of migration with software, especially the OS. Since Novell is targeting both enterprise and private sectors where Windows is mostly used on the desktop then the company should focus on providing an OS and tools that ease migration. If OSX was the major player globally on all desktops then I would of course recommend Gnome. Though since it's not I can't understand Novell's interest in sticking with Gnome or even purchasing Ximian as both seem to be bad business decisions which shareholders may possibly question.

"Then they need to get HP and/or Dell to offer these preinstalled. That would make a significant difference."

Both HP and Dell state they offer Novell solutions but this seems focused on the enterprise, not private markets. I don't know if there is anything more Novell can do to persuade people like Michael Dell to offer their customers SUSE Linux preinstalled on for example laptops. Well possibly making the distribution even more user friendly than it already is will make it more appealing. Hopefully this is true by the time SUSE Linux 10.1 and NLD 10 are released. By the way one vendor I came across that does offer SUSE Linux preinstalled not only on workstations but also desktops and laptops is GamePC.com. Unfortunately unlike Dell they don't offer financing for home users.

Edited 2006-03-05 20:06

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RE: Shore-up the Ship
by dweazle on Mon 6th Mar 2006 00:06 in reply to "Shore-up the Ship"
dweazle Member since:
2006-03-05

I do not pretend to know everything about Novell. But I work with SUSE almost daily, so I know a bit about the differences between Novell's OS products.

OpenSUSE is the development platform for the next release of SUSE linux.

SUSE linux is aimed at the home user and small/medium business. Well suited for both desktops and servers.

SUSE linux enterprise server is based on SUSE linux, but is more stable and more suitable for servers: It has better device support, certification from hardware vendors (HP), database vendors (Oracle), commercial support.

Novell Open Enterprise Server is based on SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, but it includes Netware services too.

Novell Linux desktop is based on SUSE linux. It features some extra stuff for corperate users, like Netware.

So I guess every one of their products has it's place in the market. What Novell needs to do is better explain the differences between these products. If you are not familiar with them it's hard to find out which one you need.

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