Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 7th Mar 2006 01:37 UTC, submitted by Valour
Gentoo "It's been a while since I last reviewed Gentoo Linux because there haven't been too many significant changes in the past few releases. I've been using it as my primary desktop operating system for a year and a half, though, and I've been running my main Web/email/database server on it since October of 2004. There's a reason why I've stayed with it that long, both as a desktop and server OS - and there's also a reason why I'm writing a review of the 2006.0 release after a long hiatus from Gentoo reviews." More here.
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Rant
by oldstinkyfish on Tue 7th Mar 2006 02:00 UTC
oldstinkyfish
Member since:
2006-03-04

Yea there was alot of hype. I don't know why they can't have a autoconfiguration of xorg, etc. Why they can't have use flags settings selected for the software that you choose. Its still some elite user software, and if you don't like the way it works then your a idiot. Read there mailing lists. If they put more effort into adding feature requests instead of making noobs feel like retards, i would praise this distro more.

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RE: Rant
by Omega Penguin on Tue 7th Mar 2006 02:06 in reply to "Rant"
Omega Penguin Member since:
2006-02-12

Gentoo is like Slackware in the respect they are for advanced users.I mean,there are plenty of distros for newbies,but we can't forget the people who know their way around Linux.

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RE[2]: Rant
by sanctus on Tue 7th Mar 2006 03:04 in reply to "RE: Rant"
sanctus Member since:
2005-08-31

I see more the long installation made for beginners or intermediates user who want to learn more about linux (there is also linuxfromscratch).

Personnaly I prefer gentoo for is package system. Portage is amazing. What It's miss, is a cleaner way to build glibc like freebsd does _and_ a fast, uncumbered, graphical installation to get to work as fast as it possible.

I dont see how gentoo is a distro for "advanced user". Avanced user don't necessarily want was a weekend installing a system, nor they want to configure by hand there xorg or what so ever. They already know how to do that, what do they have to prove to themselve? To categorize it as such, is more for the "cool" factor put on the newbies geek.

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RE: Rant
by dumbkiwi on Tue 7th Mar 2006 03:52 in reply to "Rant"
dumbkiwi Member since:
2006-01-02

I don't know what mailing lists you are reading, but the gentoo forums are one of the most informative and newbie friendly places I've seen. Gentoo (in my view) has the best, and most readable documentation of any distribution I've tried.

In terms of auto configuration of X, that's not what gentoo's about. Gentoo was originally conceived as a meta-distribution. A distribution from which other distributions are made. Gentoo is a distribution for those that want to configure their system from scratch. If you're not prepared to configure things yourself, then don't use it (and that's not saying you're an idiot - you may have different priorities).

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RE[2]: Rant
by Soulbender on Tue 7th Mar 2006 06:29 in reply to "Rant"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Maybe it's not designed for noobs.

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RE: Rant
by flav2000 on Tue 7th Mar 2006 07:04 in reply to "Rant"
flav2000 Member since:
2006-02-08

Um. autoconfiguration works if there are only a couple options. For example, apache has the following flags:

apache2 debug doc ldap mpm-leader mpm-peruser mpm-prefork mpm-threadpool mpm-worker nosuexec selinux ssl static-modules threads

Of the 14 flags, if you ask 10 different people you'll probably bet getting 7-8 answers as to what should be the "default". Gentoo is flexible in this regard and that's its strength.

As for your mailing list comment, I have not seen this in the forums at all. Most Gentoo users use the forums and wiki for information anyways.

Since 2002, I have asked my share of questions and I have made my share of contributions. I even helped out people through email and made a few friends that way. So, if you have met some unpleasant people it's probably more of the exception rather than the norm.

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RE: Rant
by dylansmrjones on Tue 7th Mar 2006 09:10 in reply to "Rant"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Well, X.org comes with all kinds of autoconfiguration. Just run the damn scripts. I use auto configuration to set up x.org and afterwards I modify it if necessary (and it is with my monitor).

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RE[2]: Rant
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 7th Mar 2006 11:07 in reply to "Rant"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Yea there was alot of hype. I don't know why they can't have a autoconfiguration of xorg, etc. Why they can't have use flags settings selected for the software that you choose. Its still some elite user software, and if you don't like the way it works then your a idiot.

That's like asking Ferrari to make an affordable 12000E 3 door hatch. It just ain't gonna happen, because that's not the target market for Ferrari.

Get over it.

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