Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 12th Mar 2006 18:40 UTC, submitted by kaiwai
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y OSNews regular Kaiwai takes a superficial look at Vista and MacOS 10.4/10.5, and concludes: "To say that the changes in Windows Vista are only skin deep is missinformed to say the least; spend some time reading those sources I have listed, and even if you don't have a desire to run Windows Vista or particular interested in Windows based technology, it does provide some good resources explaining the changes and rationale behind those choices made. So from a purely technical point of view, Windows Vista is actually looking a whole lot more interesting than what the detractors have been saying in the computer press about the current direction."
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RE[2]: Too many years
by atsureki on Mon 13th Mar 2006 05:07 UTC in reply to "RE: Too many years"
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But any geek worth his salt can find a lot of information about what has been changed in Vista, what's new, and what's to look forward to. However, a lot of people seem to be content in just bashing Microsoft because of their history instead of trying to judge a product on it's merits.

Speaking of history, let's not forget that of Microsoft's marketing tactics. When a big-name feature goes by the wayside, they have the decency to admit it, but when the ship sails and all we get for "vastly improved security" is more userspace clutter popping up dialogs to confirm that the user intended to type the letter F [Undo/Cancel], Microsoft will continue to insist we got what we were promised. Any "information" that isn't acquired via time machine just isn't reliable. The APIs are interesting, but won't do anything on day one and will be backported as soon as they become useful. The interface changes vary from breathtaking (windows tilt back into oblivion when you close them, as if falling unconscious) to atrocious (why is the games folder in my start menu presented as a gallery?). Other than that, all we know for sure is what Vista won't have, and it's a very long list.

The reason people are fixating on the top level -- the interface and all the features that have been canceled -- is the same reason MS publicized them to begin with: it takes no imagination to see how an average user could get something out of them. People are looking for real reasons to salivate over a new toy. No one's got XP in one hand and Vista in the other and can't decide which to buy, so being a generally superior product isn't enough. There needs to be a compelling reason to pay cash money to replace what we have now. As for me and a lot of people I know, what made XP worthwhile over 2K back in the day is that it booted faster. With Vista's bloat, a pleasant surprise like that seems unlikely. So for the average consumer's two cents, Vista is five years' worth of frivolous interface effects. Or am I missing something?

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RE[3]: Too many years
by sappyvcv on Mon 13th Mar 2006 05:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Too many years"
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Other than that, all we know for sure is what Vista won't have, and it's a very long list.

- WinFS (will be available as a download sometime after)
- Monad (will be available as a download, possibly by the time Vista ships)


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RE[4]: Too many years
by libray on Mon 13th Mar 2006 16:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Too many years"
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- Monad (will be available as a download, possibly by the time Vista ships)

Its already here. I've been using it on Windows XP for a couple of weeks now and am very impressed.

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