Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Mar 2006 17:12 UTC, submitted by Linuxfanboy
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y LXer compares Ubuntu, Mac OSX, and Windows XP. "All three desktop operating systems have admirable qualities. Each has some weaknesses. Attending a recent User Group Fair, I had another chance to see them at work. Having used and programmed on each platform provides some unbiased insights."
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RE: This guys knows Ubuntu?
by ormandj on Tue 21st Mar 2006 02:22 UTC in reply to "This guys knows Ubuntu?"
ormandj
Member since:
2005-10-09

GIMP != even close to phptoshop
Access != even close to OO.org Base
Quickbooks != any of those alternatives, and why run QB non-native under WINE?

PDF functionality really isn't that great

I don't see libdvdcss/libdvdplay being legal? Not in the USA anyways, but maybe I'm confused.

Tax prep software - why run non-native under WINE?

Cinelerra I can't comment on.

I don't know who your users are, but they aren't professionals in the universe I live in. The gimp/PS thing takes the cake. Nobody in the gfx/art field would last more than half a nanosecond without laughing after hearing somebody compare GIMP and PS. ;)

All in all, if you need most of those things you listed, you're plain better off just running Windows, or writing/improving the linux software to the point it IS comparable. It's not now.

Cheers,
David

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RE[2]: This guys knows Ubuntu?
by TechGeek on Tue 21st Mar 2006 02:49 in reply to "RE: This guys knows Ubuntu?"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

why run non-native under WINE?

How about the fact that I dont have to worry about spyware and virii stealing my tax information while I am filing? Or reporting my account numbers to some thug in Russia? Of course, not all of us have $900 to shell out for photoshop. Gimp does 90% if not more for free. And whats wrong with pdf suuport? Works just fine on every version of linux I have used without having to download it ffrom Adobe. BTW there is a free version from Adobe for linux, so you cant say much about it. And yes, I am biased toward linux. But if you are going to be a ms fanboy, at least pick some things Windows is actually better at.

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RE[3]: This guys knows Ubuntu?
by ormandj on Tue 21st Mar 2006 05:54 in reply to "RE[2]: This guys knows Ubuntu?"
ormandj Member since:
2005-10-09

I don't even own a MS-running machine. All my systems are mac/freebsd/solaris. Sorry to disappoint about being a fanboy.

I don't know what your spyware/virii stealing your tax information comment was about, but that's simply not the case. Every infested windows machine I've ever seen has been a user's fault. The only exception to this was the whole blaster thing. Dumb users on any OS are going to have infested systems. It can happen on OSX, it can happen on linux, solaris, you name it. User-owned files can be infested to hell and back. It *appears* more severe in windows because of the default-admin privs - but who really cares about the OS - it's the data that matters. And that's what gets screwed, no matter what.

Uh, 90%? No way. I'm sure it's more than capable for a basic user, but in no way is it 90% feature complete of PS, I won't even get into usability.

PDF support - it's been a while since I've attempted in linux, admittedly, so maybe it's better now. It used to be I couldn't even fill in PDF forms. I won't attempt to knock your retort though, it very well may be possible support is improved.

Your reasoning/logic fails, I'm sorry.

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chemical_scum Member since:
2005-11-02

Access != even close to OO.org Base
Exactly you said it.

GIMP != even close to phptoshop
Perhaps you meant Photoshop which runs under Wine

I don't see libdvdcss/libdvdplay being legal? Not in the USA anyways, but maybe I'm confused. - Thats your problem I live in Canada. In practice the questionable legality of libdvdcss in the S.U. sorry I mean U.S. is not a problem for home users no home user is ever going to be prosecuted for downloading it and using it to play their DVDs. On the other hand it could be a problem for a distributor that tries to distribute in th States.

Tax prep software - why run non-native under WINE? - Why not ? WINE is Not an Emulator and therefore does not have the speed hit of running software on an emulator, indeed some software runs faster on WINE than on Windows.

Cinelerra I can't comment on. - Cinelerra I can't comment on.

I don't know who your users are, but they aren't professionals in the universe I live in...you're plain better off just running Windows
If I were a graphic arts professional I would rather use OSX than Windows. As a professional research chemist who is forced to use Windows at work. I can tell you I find no advantage for it over what I can do on my Linux box at home in fact I find Windows inferior in a number of ways.

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RE[3]: This guys knows Ubuntu?
by ormandj on Tue 21st Mar 2006 05:56 in reply to "RE[2]: This guys knows Ubuntu?"
ormandj Member since:
2005-10-09

"Exactly you said it. " - Except you interpreted it in reverse. Oh well.

"Perhaps you meant Photoshop which runs under Wine " - Like dogpoo the last time I saw it running. Half the plugins (really important...) didn't function properly.

You can recite the meaning of the acronym, that doesn't make it fast. "Indeed some software runs faster on WINE than on Windows" - Well, indeed, some runs slower. Most that I've attempted. The above mentioned being primary offenders.

"If I were a graphic arts professional I would rather use OSX than Windows. As a professional research chemist who is forced to use Windows at work. I can tell you I find no advantage for it over what I can do on my Linux box at home in fact I find Windows inferior in a number of ways."

I would agree, OSX is a better choice. Linux is not. Not for GFX professionals. As a professional chemist, I would pick linux (actually, Solaris) as well. The right tool for the job. That was the point of my original post. Cheers.

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RE[2]: This guys knows Ubuntu?
by voidlogic on Tue 21st Mar 2006 17:45 in reply to "RE: This guys knows Ubuntu?"
voidlogic Member since:
2005-09-03

libdvdcss is legal, read the wiki on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss

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