Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Mar 2006 23:36 UTC, submitted by ma_d
Windows Ars is contradicting the 60% claim made earlier today, stating: "Reportedly, the Media Center code in the OS is in shambles, and needs to be saved by the Xbox code team. Curiosity piqued, I contacted my usual sources. In short, the story is an extreme exaggeration. I suppose this much is obvious from the mere fact that what was once a late November shipping date has now moved to January 2007: would the revelation that more than half of the code is in need of repair only translate into a two month delay? Of course not. I suppose the cynic could still invest in this rumor by arguing that the delay will stretch into 2007, but that has yet to be seen, and it really amounts to FUD at this point."
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RE[3]: Huh?
by kaiwai on Sat 25th Mar 2006 10:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Huh?"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

No, i think, people want to keep up with the Johnsons.

How so? Most people I know, heard from their computer geek friend that Windows XP was more stable, and wouldn't crash all the time - so they thought, "ooh, thats gonna fix my problems' so they upgrade.

Gratest problem with XP is the unacceptable conditions in the EULA.TXT it ships with, similar to:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/eula.mspx


And what is in unacceptable in that licence? please outline those parts you have issues with.

Well, maybe for home-desktop users it was. It certainly wasn't for a bunch of companys i know about (as they migrated from NT to 2000, and from Unix and Netware to Linux.)

Nice to see that you have comprehension issues; I clearny stated that the move from 9x to Windows NT was a no-brainer; no where did I mention a move from NT to 2000, or UNIX to Linux - btw, the context of Windows NT is in relation to migrating from the 9x line to the NT code base (Windows XP being the latest).

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RE[4]: Huh?
by dylansmrjones on Sat 25th Mar 2006 10:57 in reply to "RE[3]: Huh?"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Most people I know, heard from their computer geek friend that Windows XP was more stable, and wouldn't crash all the time - so they thought, "ooh, thats gonna fix my problems' so they upgrade.

I cannot imagine ever having heard a geek recommending XP.

However, many geeks have been recommending Win2K, or other platforms than Windows.

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RE[5]: Huh?
by kaiwai on Sat 25th Mar 2006 12:02 in reply to "RE[4]: Huh?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

However, many geeks have been recommending Win2K, or other platforms than Windows.

Oh pulease; so you go into a mates house and say 'throw away all those games and applications you like and start using Linux!"

Yeah, great way to lose friends recommending stupid things like that.

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RE[5]: Huh?
by sappyvcv on Sat 25th Mar 2006 15:37 in reply to "RE[4]: Huh?"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

I recommended installing some extra memory (was 64MB) and XP to my Aunt. She had me do it for her, but she was and is very very happy with the results. Her computer no longer randomly crashes.

I installed XP w/slipstreamed SP2, Windows AntiSpyware (at the time) and Firefox (even though I personally use Opera, it wasn't as friendly at the time).

She's stopped calling me to come fix some random crap every other week.

edit: Oh yeah, and she was very excited when she plugged in my Uncle's camera and it just worked. She was able to browse the pictures right away without any special software.

Edited 2006-03-25 15:38

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RE[4]: Huh?
by druiloor on Sat 25th Mar 2006 11:04 in reply to "RE[3]: Huh?"
druiloor Member since:
2006-02-01

>> No, i think, people want to keep up with the Johnsons.
> How so?

They buy a mp3 player, camera, or whatever that happens to only work with XP. Or they get a shiny new PC via some home-computer from work (with tax reduction) project.

> And what is in unacceptable in that licence? please
> outline those parts you have issues with.

Please just read it yourself. Maybe this helps:
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2002/10/23.13.shtml

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RE[5]: Huh?
by kaiwai on Sat 25th Mar 2006 12:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Huh?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

They buy a mp3 player, camera, or whatever that happens to only work with XP. Or they get a shiny new PC via some home-computer from work (with tax reduction) project.

Which has nothing to do with 'keeping up with the johnsons' - its the job of the operating system to support the hardware, not the end user to specially look for hardware that works with their OS; do I need to repeat this again, "people want the computers to work for them, not the other way around".

Please just read it yourself. Maybe this helps:
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2002/10/23.13.shtml


Which is dated 2002, they've since updated their EULA based on customer feedback; if you look at the EULA on points 2.4 and 6.0 - they collect generic information in regards to what is required for updating - no different to Apple providing the necessary information as to which version of MacOS X you are running, and which packages you have installed and may require updating.

Please, lets stick to facts and avoid the fud; you may hate Microsoft with some sort of religious zealotry, but facts go that there are over 220million satisfied Windows XP customers, and growing.

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