Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Mar 2006 09:42 UTC, submitted by DaaT
Zeta IsComputerOn (back from some downtime) has previewed the latest ZETA 1.2, still in beta testing, soon to be available to the general public. "Well, this is not the final 1.2 version, but so far my experience with this beta (and the previous ones) has been very pleasant. Stability issues have been (mostly) solved, speed has increased and the overall look has improved as well (the new buttons, tabs, the default decor has been improved too), making this a good experience throughout the beta testing." Many screenshots included, boys and girls. Expect a review of a 1.2 beta on OSNews too, soon.
Thread beginning with comment 108440
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE: Good, but...
by jeremywc on Mon 27th Mar 2006 12:15 UTC in reply to "Good, but..."
jeremywc
Member since:
2005-08-02

Flashy graphics do not translate into a usable UI. If they did hire someone off of either of those sites, I'd advise everyone I came across to avoid it like the plague.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[2]: Good, but...
by Pierpaolo on Mon 27th Mar 2006 12:21 in reply to "RE: Good, but..."
Pierpaolo Member since:
2005-07-11

Hahahaha!!
First of all, I have to tell that I agree with you. But we must be aware that some people coud be interested in this kind of feature. I dislike skins: most skins I saw can be defined confusing and distracting for me... but somebody can like them. I don't think it's a must-be-implemented feature but if they'll decide to include it I hope that it will be done in a clever way (the BeOS way) and that the impact on the performance will be minimal. I'd like to run Zeta on oldest computer too. In my very humble opinion, there are much important features to concentrate the development on: drivers and dev tools. BeIDE is nice, but it isn't perfect. I'd like to see improvements in dev tools too! Developers are important...

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[3]: Good, but...
by vitae on Mon 27th Mar 2006 19:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Good, but..."
vitae Member since:
2006-02-20

That's why the skins should be there, for those that want them. Those who are satisfied with the traditional BeOS look don't have to use them. People should have choice, no?

Reply Parent Score: 1

RE[2]: Good, but...
by Emerson on Mon 27th Mar 2006 12:38 in reply to "RE: Good, but..."
Emerson Member since:
2005-09-19

Flashy graphics don't translate into an automatic usable UI, but they do translate into a GUI that has, well, flashy graphics. Which is what most end users want from an operating system. Even here, just look how many comments about vista have to actually do with the usability or underlying structure compared to the theming. Geeks can care about that all they want, but the vast majority of users want an OS that appeals to their artistic sensability.

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[3]: Good, but...
by MikeGA on Mon 27th Mar 2006 13:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Good, but..."
MikeGA Member since:
2005-07-22

I think the problem here is how YellowTab seem to be approaching the interface "look." They seem to want to take the original BeOS interface and gradually improve parts of it. However, frankly, in order to get a modern look to the interface, this is not going to work.

What YellowTab really need to do is say "Look, for version 2, we are going to completely update the entire UI." They need to pick a scheme for the look of the windows, colours of menu etc. They want anti-aliased fonts. All these sorts of things.

Unfortunately of course, none of this is trivial. The alternative is just to stick with the BeOS original look, and avoid altering it too much at all.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[3]: Good, but...
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 27th Mar 2006 14:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Good, but..."
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

but the vast majority of users want an OS that appeals to their artistic sensability.

Well great for them. I would suggest they stick with OSes concerned about satisfying those artistic sensibilities.

There are some of us, though, who actually prefer visually minimalist/understated UIs from an aesthetic standpoint. I'm glad Be had the restraint to keep their graphical tech demos confined to demo applications.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[3]: Good, but...
by Soulbender on Mon 27th Mar 2006 15:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Good, but..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Which is what most end users want from an operating system"

No they dont. Only computer geeks and nerds do. Your average user only cares that it isnt unsightly awfull and that it lets them do whatever they use the computer for (play music, look at photos, send email etc etc).

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[2]: Good, but...
by Mea Culpa on Mon 27th Mar 2006 13:59 in reply to "RE: Good, but..."
Mea Culpa Member since:
2006-02-18

having done a bit of UI work recently (kind of thrust upon me, but with a "hunger" to want to get it done properly regardless), I can say that the UI is *thee* most important aspect of a product you can possibly be working on.

Flashy graphics can be used, but at every step of the design process, you must evaluate with the utmost criticism, what are you doing, justifying every choice. it's goes back to the old maxim of first impressions count, and it's axiomatic in UI.

However, while there's a section of the BeOS faithful who, to try and be polite about it, can be a bit luddite about UI, it's a mad tightrope act to balance flash with function. You can never be too critical about UI design, and it's good to see yT tackling the matter with the gravity it deserves.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[2]: Good, but...
by biffuz on Mon 27th Mar 2006 20:05 in reply to "RE: Good, but..."
biffuz Member since:
2006-03-27

"Flashy graphics do not translate into a usable UI."

This was not the point.

Reply Parent Score: 1