Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Mar 2006 21:49 UTC
OpenBSD "Theo de Raadt is the project leader for OpenBSD, a Unix-like operating system. We spoke with Theo about the upcoming release of OpenBSD, 3.9, the financial state of the project, and about companies that profit from free software without contributing back."
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RE[2]: I read the interview
by Temcat on Wed 29th Mar 2006 10:13 UTC in reply to "RE: I read the interview"
Temcat
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2005-10-18

It has EVERYTHING to do with license. With BSD license, which was their OWN choice, nobody owes them monetary copensation for their efforts, and yet Theo whines that the project doesn't get anything in return. Sure, some might donate them money out of pure generosity, and that will be a Good Thing(TM) - but REQUIRING generosity is stupid and childish.

Here's the relevant long quote for those who haven't bothered to RTFA:

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If I add up everything we have ever gotten in exchange for our efforts with OpenSSH, it might amount to $1,000. This all came from individuals. For our work on OpenSSH, companies using OpenSSH have never given us a cent. What about companies that incorporate OpenSSH directly into their products, saving themselves millions of dollars? Companies such as Cisco, Sun, SGI, HP, IBM, Siemens, a raft of medium-sized firewall companies -- we have not received a cent. Or from Linux vendors? Not a cent.

Of course we did not set out to create OpenSSH for the money -- we purposely made it completely free so that the "telnet infrastructure" of the 1980s would die. But it sure is sad that none of these companies return even a fraction of value in kind.

If you want to judge any entity particularly harshly, judge Sun. Yearly they hold interoperability events, for NFS and other protocols, and they include SSH implementation tests as well. Twice we asked them to cover the travel and accommodation costs for a developer to come to their event, and they refused. Considering that their SunSSH is directly based on our code, that is just flat out insulting. Shame on you Sun, shame, shame, shame.

I will say it here -- if an OpenSSH hole is found that applies to SunSSH, Sun will not be informed. Or maybe that has happened already.
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Sun does NOT owe them anything.

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RE[3]: I read the interview
by miscz on Wed 29th Mar 2006 15:09 in reply to "RE[2]: I read the interview"
miscz Member since:
2005-07-17

Sure, they didn't break the law. They don't owe them anything. But they are still jerks, Sun relies on some guys work and they could at least return a favor.

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