Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Mar 2006 11:28 UTC, submitted by anonymous
OpenBSD "Even if you don't use OpenBSD, you're likely to be benefiting from it unknowingly. If you're using Solaris, SCO UnixWare, OS X, SUSE Linux, or Red Hat Enterprise Linux, chances are you're using the OpenBSD-developed OpenSSH for secure shell access to remote machines. If so many are using this software, why are so few paying for it? Official responses (and non-responses) from Sun Microsystems, IBM, Novell, and Red Hat are below, but if you're one of the freeloaders who hasn't contributed to OpenBSD or OpenSSH, what's your excuse?"
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Structure
by tony on Wed 29th Mar 2006 19:18 UTC
tony
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2005-07-06

I went poking around OpenBSD's site, and I found a fundamental difference between OpenBSD and the other BSDs, in that I couldn't find any reference to an OpenBSD formal organization/foundation/corporation.

FreeBSD and NetBSD both have non-profit foundations which cover financing. They have boards of directors, and all of the transparency that comes with responabile non-profit boards. OpenBSD could really use this, I think. Either incorporated as a non profit in the US or Canada (I'm unfamiliar with Canadian non-profit statutes). Currently, donation cheques are written out to "Theo". While I don't think anybody thinks that he's taking the checks and converting them into payments on a Hummer, the lack of a little bit of formality and formalized fund raising process (and I'm not talking about a process that requires cover sheets for your TPS reports) may be a hinderance.

I just found a thread where it was discussed, and it looks like it went nowhere. I wonder what it would take to get it going.

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RE: Structure
by kamper on Wed 29th Mar 2006 20:17 in reply to "Structure"
kamper Member since:
2005-08-20

I went poking around OpenBSD's site, and I found a fundamental difference between OpenBSD and the other BSDs, in that I couldn't find any reference to an OpenBSD formal organization/foundation/corporation.

FreeBSD and NetBSD both have non-profit foundations which cover financing. They have boards of directors, and all of the transparency that comes with responabile non-profit boards. OpenBSD could really use this, I think. Either incorporated as a non profit in the US or Canada (I'm unfamiliar with Canadian non-profit statutes). Currently, donation cheques are written out to "Theo". While I don't think anybody thinks that he's taking the checks and converting them into payments on a Hummer, the lack of a little bit of formality and formalized fund raising process (and I'm not talking about a process that requires cover sheets for your TPS reports) may be a hinderance.

I just found a thread where it was discussed, and it looks like it went nowhere. I wonder what it would take to get it going.


It hasn't happened because everybody thinks it's a good idea and is more than happy to suggest it, but too lazy to get off theirs duffs and make it happen. Theo and crew are coders, not paper pushers and they deem their time better spent on coding. From what I hear, it really is a significant amount of work.

I'm sure if somebody actually went to the trouble of registering a non-profit in some country (US seems most, err, profitable) and wrote to Theo saying "I've got a non-profit ready to go, all you have to know is that funds will be flowing into your bank account. You don't have to do paperwork or deal with government types", he'd be a lot more receptive.

The other thing is, he's not asking for charity. He's asking for companies to look after their own interests by investing a little in a project they depend on.

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RE[2]: Structure
by tony on Wed 29th Mar 2006 20:43 in reply to "RE: Structure"
tony Member since:
2005-07-06

It hasn't happened because everybody thinks it's a good idea and is more than happy to suggest it, but too lazy to get off theirs duffs and make it happen. Theo and crew are coders, not paper pushers and they deem their time better spent on coding. From what I hear, it really is a significant amount of work.

I serve on a board right now as treasurer (commercial), and it's not that much work. And calling the work paper pushing I don't think is fair. In any organization, there's always some paperwork that needs to be done. Every entity, either individual or incorporated, has some paperwork associated with it. For example, if Theo is taking donations in his name, then he has to account for donations in some way so that he doesn't run afoul of the Canadian tax authorties. You need to do it anyway, and setting up a system can simplify the process so the "necessary evil" doesn't get in the way. Also, it helps with transparency, so everyone knows you're running an honest and tight ship.

And as for starting one up, I'd be happy to do it.

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