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RE[2]: improvement over XP
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 31st Mar 2006 09:54 UTC in reply to "RE: improvement over XP"
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2005-06-29

Sometimes you've just gotta dump the past, and move on - if you need your 20 year old application to work, it is pretty obvious that you neither have any intention of upgrading the application let alone upgrading the operating system.

They just can't. That's the whole problem with Microsoft. I'm sure the engineers over there are DYING to excorcise all the crap from Windows, in order to show the REAL power of Windows NT (the NT kernel is considered to be a pretty decent and well-built kernel), to show that they CAN create cool stuff. Because they can-- remember Singularity? [1][2][3]

The problem is: they cannot. They have too many customers relying on old crap who'd be seriously pissed off if Microsoft ditches the legacy stuff. Microsoft isn't Apple or Torvalds who just don't give a rat's ass about backwards compatibility.

[1] http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12444
[2] http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12872
[3] http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12955

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RE[3]: improvement over XP
by kaiwai on Fri 31st Mar 2006 10:47 in reply to "RE[2]: improvement over XP"
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2005-07-06

They just can't. That's the whole problem with Microsoft. I'm sure the engineers over there are DYING to excorcise all the crap from Windows, in order to show the REAL power of Windows NT (the NT kernel is considered to be a pretty decent and well-built kernel), to show that they CAN create cool stuff. Because they can-- remember Singularity? [1][2][3]

The problem is: they cannot. They have too many customers relying on old crap who'd be seriously pissed off if Microsoft ditches the legacy stuff. Microsoft isn't Apple or Torvalds who just don't give a rat's ass about backwards compatibility.


Dear god, reading and comprehension seems to be a VERY big issue for people around here. Who said anything about dumping Windows NT? Windows NT design IS fundamentally secure and stable - read up on that before you make a jackass of yourself.

Read up on what work arounds they have provided for applications that expect administrator privilages and how they're providing legacy support ALSO read up on the issues with win32 API, and how everytime they fix an issue, they must provide a 'compatibility function' as to allow applications to continue using the function in the old way.

You set a target, and say, "anything not designed purely for Windows XP and multi-user, we won't provide backwards compatibility for" - the uptake WILL be slower, but at the same time, it will force a new level of quality onto the ISV's, by demanding that they actually LISTEN to Microsoft when they say something has been fixed, depreciated or removed from Windows.

Edited 2006-03-31 10:48

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RE[4]: improvement over XP
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 31st Mar 2006 10:56 in reply to "RE[3]: improvement over XP"
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2005-06-29

Who said anything about dumping Windows NT?

I didn't. I guess YOU suffer from comprehension problems.

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RE[3]: improvement over XP
by segedunum on Fri 31st Mar 2006 12:45 in reply to "RE[2]: improvement over XP"
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2005-07-06

Because they can-- remember Singularity?

Hmmm. You mean that thing that came out of Microsoft's multi-billion dollar research labs that looks suspiciously like Plan 9 and Unix?

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RE[4]: improvement over XP
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 31st Mar 2006 13:23 in reply to "RE[3]: improvement over XP"
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2005-06-29

Hmmm. You mean that thing that came out of Microsoft's multi-billion dollar research labs that looks suspiciously like Plan 9 and Unix?

Ah, you used it? Interesting, can you tell me more about it?

Because from what I've read (and Wikipedia [1] is a short intro to it) it is as different from UNIX and Plan9 as Windows is from UNIX.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_%28operating_system~*~...

Edited 2006-03-31 13:29

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