Linked by Andrew Youll on Fri 29th Jul 2005 16:32 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Windows Windows Vista won't be released until the end of 2006, a Microsoft exec let slip in a presentation on Microsoft's campus yesterday. The next version of Windows was expected in the second half of 2006, but at a financial analyst conference in Washington, Microsoft senior VP Will Poole revealed it would not appear until the 2006 US holiday season. In related news, a senior Microsoft executive has identified Apple as an obstacle to Redmond's success.
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RE[3]: Apple's margins
by on Sat 30th Jul 2005 00:44 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Apple's margins"

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You're missing his point.

He's not talking about spec. He's talking about cost. It's clear enough.

For every $1100 a PC manufacturer sells equipmment for they get $1000. For Apple they get an extra $180. Whether the Apple stuff is better or not for the price (which I don't agree with anyway) is not the point. The point is that their margin is bigger and so you're paying more for your equipment.

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RE[4]: Apple's margins
by KellyMcNeill on Sat 30th Jul 2005 01:16 in reply to "RE[3]: Apple's margins"
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2005-07-27

"He's not talking about spec. He's talking about cost. It's clear enough."

A PC *can* cost less in the way that a cheap plastic razor costs less than a nice electric one. When I refer to spec, I'm saying that if you get two electric razors of equal quality and feature set, the Mac razor is going to cost less than the PC electric razor. At worst it will cost the same. Apple simply doesn't sell a cheap plastic razor with minimum features. It only sells the nicer electric ones. Does that analogy help you understand?


"For every $1100 a PC manufacturer sells equipmment for they get $1000. For Apple they get an extra $180."

And I'm saying that this is simply not true.


"Whether the Apple stuff is better or not for the price (which I don't agree with anyway) is not the point."

Agreed. The Mac *IS* better... but does so for less or the same money.


"The point is that their margin is bigger and so you're paying more for your equipment."

Apple's margin is bigger because they don't allow you to buy less and spend less like you can with a PC.

Higher spec'd PCs have higher margins. Apple simply doesn't sell low spec'd PCs... THAT's how they achieve higher margins. Its not because their computers are more expensive than a comperably equipped PC.

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RE[5]: Apple's margins
by on Sat 30th Jul 2005 01:31 in reply to "RE[4]: Apple's margins"
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"Higher spec'd PCs have higher margins. Apple simply doesn't sell low spec'd PCs... THAT's how they achieve higher margins. Its not because their computers are more expensive than a comperably equipped PC."

Please don't tell me that the 700Eur Minis are high specs PCs. And yet in Europe 700Eur are a lot of money, they buy you quite a good Desktop.

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RE[5]: Apple's margins
by ma_d on Sat 30th Jul 2005 04:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Apple's margins"
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2005-06-29

It's a hard comparison to make. But I do think you're right that Mac's price per quality/features are quite fair. The trouble is that many don't value quality at all.

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