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"MS has lots of viruses worms and etc.. have you take a look at OSX lately ?? You know.. the underground community is able to crack any OS down... if they're willing to do so..."
Yeah I've taken a look at OS X lately. Its a really pretty OS!
Oh, do you mean viruses and worms? Havent seen any... except for that one that was really hyped in the news, you know the one where you have to download something and run it (giving it your administrator password!) and it sends it to everyone on your buddy list? Man! I'm going back to Windows, its way more secure!
FACT: As long as you hide it behind a firewall and dont run any executables you're more secure than running random files on OS X.
FACT: Theres a bible passage relating to this (and I'm not even religious): Before you comment on the sliver in your friends eye, make sure to remove the 2x4 that is sticking out of yours.
I work in an office that uses MS ecosystem
Good, now I can predict everything you'll say.
SharePoint isn't the best thing out there but the integration with any MS Office components should be noted, one thing people hate is to learn how to use new software with new jargons and new UI
Which MS Office is (new software with new jargon and new UI) for every release. Starting with a contradiction, good !
At least MS Office shares its UI/Jargon all along the products
You forgot : as long as you have the same versions. I'll have a hard time keeping a straight face when you compare '98, 2000, XP and 2003 versions of MS Office.
Anyway, what you say is true for the same version, because of the simple fact that this is an Office *suite*. The *suite* is important here.
You know what ? KOffice and OpenOffice have exactly the same feature.
this is not easy. You want to tag this as monopoly, go ahead, but it does make my life easier at office compare just to use Plone alone... (you can list all MS product clones but they are not integrated)
Perhaps it is not easy, but even FOSS does it. And nobody ever tagged this as monopoly, this is just tagged a *suite*.
The MS ecosystem explains your view though.
Multiple monitors are way much better than virtual desktop. Sure, you need to drag your mouse from one monitor to another, but you can see 3 things without flipping your virtual desktops
What nonsense. You are amazing, like every MS brainwashed people I've encountered : you don't think by yourself, you drink what MS execs tell you, and find justification for it.
Multiple monitor are not "way much better" for lots of people, for the same reason that flat monitor are popular : most people don't have a huge desk to put 3 monitors on it, you know. They don't even have enough sockets to plug all of this, graphic cards to do that, or the knowledge to set it up.
The only things it saves you, is some typing to switch virtual desktop/window. Anyway, very few people need/can afford that, most of the time, they need a doc, and they print it. Most people still have an easier time reading docs on paper though. Just to say no, multiple monitors is not always much better than virtual desktop.
You know.. without Microsoft, people might have hard time to unite several other software in order to run business... not-connected software
I have been employed numerous times to do just that, and it worked perfectly, without the need of MS, which was not available on the platforms.
Do you even have examples of what you're talking of ? You sound like MS invented all that.
... 10-15 years ago, nobody thought about having open standard, open this, one that... now they do after MS dominated the field with its own "sacred" standard
MS has no standard in the Office field (if you understand what a standard is), as showed by those that want to adhere like OOo.
And stop showing how brainwashed you are. On what do you think the Internet is based ? Yes open standards. Do you really believe that these open standards where invented less than 10-15 years ago ? Too bad for you, I was using the internet in 1991 (even the web I think, or was it 1992), and TCP/IP was there way before I used the internet.
Licensing... hm.. try be an MS partner.. my company just received MS Gold partnership (or something) apparently we get _HUGE_ discounts
Good ! Are you saying all the companies angry at the licensing are wrong ?
People always use old excuses: "MS = crash, blue screen", FYI, I have not seen Blue Screen for 3 years unless if your hard disk is corrupted
Good, now you sound like a youg arrogant guy. Do you kow the people saying that have no intention of saying excuses, they have nothing to excuse, they are not responsible for the BSOD they experienced. Yes you heard that : they had the experience of many BSOD. I can assert you they are still there in even Windows XP SP2.
MS has lots of viruses worms and etc.. have you take a look at OSX lately ??
You're even denying that too ? No, this sentence shows you're acknowledging them. But what are you trying to do ? Mitigate the problem by make us look elsewhere ?
But doing that will just show how bad the problem is on MS software !!! And that's true even if you compare with OS X.
People developed worms so it can spread, while the majority of users use Windows, so it's a common sense if you attack Windows, otherwise how on earth your worm can grow..
Why don't they attack Apache more than IIS then ? It would be common sense for the worms to grow. And yet, IIS get lots more viruses attack than Apache !!!
Your BS argument has been debunked numerous time. You must REALLY be a young MS brainwashed people right off his MCSE (or other certif).
What MS did in software practice is their choice, it's the "marketing" choice. If you work in any sofware company, you know that in reality, there are things to be sacrificed just to reach the goal
Which goal ? At least, that's the first time I agree with you. The sad thing, you know, is that "marketing" is not a software practice, it even goes against any good software practice.
I'm not 100% MS fan boy, but until Redhat/IBM/SUN/Novell can create an integrated ecosystem where users can just simply _USE_ it (eventhough there might be bugs and crashes) I'll give a try and maybe use it for a long time
Stop your BS. It has already been done for years but you did not notice. So you must really be 100 % MS fan boy. I'm sure you are actually.







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I work in an office that uses MS ecosystem (everything, maybe except the routers and switches that uses embedded linux or bsd)
SharePoint isn't the best thing out there but the integration with any MS Office components should be noted, one thing people hate is to learn how to use new software with new jargons and new UI. At least MS Office shares its UI/Jargon all along the products; this is not easy. You want to tag this as monopoly, go ahead, but it does make my life easier at office compare just to use Plone alone... (you can list all MS product clones but they are not integrated)
Multiple monitors are way much better than virtual desktop. Sure, you need to drag your mouse from one monitor to another, but you can see 3 things without flipping your virtual desktops.
You know.. without Microsoft, people might have hard time to unite several other software in order to run business... not-connected software... 10-15 years ago, nobody thought about having open standard, open this, one that... now they do after MS dominated the field with its own "sacred" standard.
Licensing... hm.. try be an MS partner.. my company just received MS Gold partnership (or something) apparently we get _HUGE_ discounts (and we can get some of their software for free as well, for sure not MS SQL Server that cost 33k though.. but good enough, you can't bitch too much sometime)
People always use old excuses: "MS = crash, blue screen", FYI, I have not seen Blue Screen for 3 years unless if your hard disk is corrupted.
MS has lots of viruses worms and etc.. have you take a look at OSX lately ?? You know.. the underground community is able to crack any OS down... if they're willing to do so...
People developed worms so it can spread, while the majority of users use Windows, so it's a common sense if you attack Windows, otherwise how on earth your worm can grow..
What MS did in software practice is their choice, it's the "marketing" choice. If you work in any sofware company, you know that in reality, there are things to be sacrificed just to reach the goal.
I'm not 100% MS fan boy, but until Redhat/IBM/SUN/Novell can create an integrated ecosystem where users can just simply _USE_ it (eventhough there might be bugs and crashes) I'll give a try and maybe use it for a long time