Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Mon 10th Apr 2006 03:58 UTC
Linux An ex-Microsoft employee is arguing that Linux is ready for the primetime and that only thing keeping it away is the number of bugs it has. He claims that if these few high-importance bugs are fixed one way or another, Linux can become a dominant power in the desktop OS world.
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RE: And
by Celerate on Mon 10th Apr 2006 06:19 UTC in reply to "And"
Celerate
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2005-06-29

The current systems aren't as simple as double clicking an icon, fair enough. But frankly I've found the RPM package manager to be much better for the end user than anything I've seen on Windows. With RPM it's all managed from one program, it's consistent, it knows all the files installed and removes them all, and it's reliable. On Windows there is inconsistency as different installers don't adhere to standards, serveral files are left behind, sometimes you have to look for the uninstaller because it's not in the menu or in the "Add/Remove Programs" dialog, and sometimes the uninstallers crap out completely and remove almost nothing (which has happened to me too many times).

In the end it's my personal opinion that RPM is much cleaner, and not too difficult for users to learn.

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RE[2]: And
by CVDpr on Mon 10th Apr 2006 06:30 in reply to "RE: And"
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2005-10-17

PLease tell me a distro with a RPM that dont have multiples cds to download..

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RE[3]: And
by porcel on Mon 10th Apr 2006 11:29 in reply to "RE[2]: And"
porcel Member since:
2006-01-28

Arklinux.

Mandrake One.

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RE[3]: And
by present_arms on Mon 10th Apr 2006 14:24 in reply to "RE[2]: And"
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2005-07-09

pclinuxos really nice rpm based distro with ati or nvidia drivers, flash, java etc...

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RE[2]: And
by Lamego on Mon 10th Apr 2006 08:06 in reply to "RE: And"
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2006-01-12

The package management centralization depends on the user, you can install a lot of software from binary or source packages and loose the track of it just as you can install "bad" windows software which does not provide a reliable uninstaller (that should be listed on the Add/Remove programs).
The strength of having package repositories is that you have so many software on it that most of the times you will not care of getting software from other (non centralized an properly managed) sources, this applies to both RPM and APT .

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RE[3]: And
by Finalzone on Mon 10th Apr 2006 09:06 in reply to "RE[2]: And"
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2005-07-06

this applies to both RPM and APT
To avoid misconception about package managers, APT equivalent for other distros are YUM, URPMI, YAST Pacman to name a few. RPM equivalent for Debian based distros is DPKG.

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RE[3]: And
by smittal on Mon 10th Apr 2006 19:41 in reply to "RE[2]: And"
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2006-02-03

I use to think that every program I'd need was in the repository (I'm using Gentoo), but recently I've found myself running to more and more packages that aren't. Integration of third-party packages is important, imo, because you can't cover everything.

Right now, setting up an ebuild for Gentoo is a pain in the ass. I don't know how difficult it is for RPM/DEB based distros. The alternative is to have an unmanaged program on your system, which is certainly not preferred.

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