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I could download it with my broadband and then install it on my friends computers really fast instead of relying on a internet connection of dubious quality. In my country most popular internet access is not easy configurable in linux (Ubuntu included) and therefore you can not rely on it during install and it requires internet access to know how other people sorted things out. But without it you can't finish install process. Chicken and egg. If everything would be on CD's (DVD ?) at least full install would be performed.
>"most of the programs"
mplayer ? # sorry - I live in Europe - it should be somehow included...
beep-media-player # univers - xmms has really ugly right-click menu, definitely not something I would like show off with ?
unrar # it's not that unpopular, is it ?
oggz-tolls # if there is this awesome free codec - why not use it ?
wine # supposed to be bridge between Windows and Linux, so why hide it ?
gnuplot # not only sci-pro use this one
gqview # my choice over gthumb
gdesklets # not only eye-candy
leafpad # real replacement for notepad
mpg321 # no comment
And why on earth user which is just starting he's advenutre with linux should be forced to choose DE (which he probably has no clue what it is whatsoever), when he is already forced to choose a distribution (and operating system prior to that). Linux is supposed to be about choice - why not give people that choice and make just this tiny little step further (which is a distance aproximately the same as between Ubuntu & Uberbuntu) and include kde (very popular) and xfce (beautifull & slick & fast DE I must say) in main repos ? When this is accomplished I will say that Linux is ready ... you know for what
>"while they all do the same"
If top does everything what gnome-system-monitor does and more - should i ditch the latter ? I prefer to use both - whatever suits me best under particular circumstances.
mplayer ? # sorry - I live in Europe - it should be somehow included...
I don't know where you live in Europe but codecs from Windows is not exactly the same as Free codecs for patented formats. Ubuntu would be in trouble distributing the binaries from Microsoft.
And why on earth user which is just starting he's advenutre with linux should be forced to choose DE
That's precisely why Ubuntu is a GNOME-based distribution where the user makes absolutely no choice of DE at all.
You can download Ubuntu as a DVD iso. There is a secret, hidden site only known to insiders called google that would've told you within seconds.
>mplayer ? # sorry - I live in Europe - it should be somehow included...
Totally nonsense. What has the inclusion of mplayer to do with you living in Europe? The propietary codecs cannot be distributed with Ubuntu, but not mplayer. Please get at least a small clue. Remember that webpage I recommended to you before?
>Linux is supposed to be about choice - why not give people that choice and make just this tiny little step further.
You can
- download the DVD.
- download Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Whateverxubuntu
- download a completely different distribution.
This is what is meant with "having the choice" and not every distro out there must follow "the everything on cds and you have hundres of packages to choose from on installation" paradigm. There are already enough of those distros out there.







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oh yeah that's it, download a DVD so you don't need broadband. The CD contains most of the programs, you don't have to download much afterwards anymore. The only thing is: you'll have to make one choice upfront:Ubuntu (GNOME), Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (Xfce) (although there is no xubuntu cd to download yet). Better solution than a DVD with all on them, doesn't leave much room for extra programs anymore while they all do the same. They just use other programs for the same task.